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YVR Cockroach Jan 24, 02 10:22 am

(Pre-2019) Marriott Bonvoy hotels in Shanghai, China
 
My mother and her pertner are off to Shanghai for CNY. There's a special rate at the two Marriotts (one's a Renaissance) for USD52/62 depending on the property. Has anyone got any opinions of the quality of these two properties and their locations?

EMD Jan 24, 02 2:55 pm

I visited the non-Ren. property about a year ago - was so new that they had not yet had their grand opening - classic Marriott in the lobby and the sports bar - it has become a mecca for many of the expats who live in the area

it is right on many of the main bus lines - within walking distance of the zoo - which is a little shabby but well worth the trip - and cabs are sooo cheap

have a wonderful time!!!!!!

TheAuditor Mar 3, 02 3:31 pm

Courtyard Pudong Shanghai
 
Any opinion on this Courtyard property? Or should I stay at the Hongqiao Marriott on the other side of the River?

dw Mar 13, 02 12:50 pm

i think i will probably be staying there next week... unfortunately it is a relatively new property, thus i can't seem to find much information about it.

Jib Apr 22, 02 8:11 am

I will be staying at this property in late May, does anyone have any updates on this Marriott?

gottigotti Jun 12, 02 8:18 am

Bump.

I am looking at having a meeting in Shanghai and looking for comments on Marriotts.

sfpaul900 Jun 12, 02 10:48 am

I am a Marriott Platinium so it took quite a bit to get me to switch to the Grand Hyatt in Shanghai but it was worth it. It is simply one of the most spectacular hotels I have ever stayed in. The rooms start way up on the 53rd floor and go up to the 87th floor. The bathrooms are jaw-dropping. Where else can you soak in a tub 80 floors over China ? The new subway to the 'old' Shanghai is just a short walk. Forgo the Marriott just this once and try the Hyatt. You'll love it.
Paul

gottigotti Jun 12, 02 2:16 pm

Thanks for the advice. That's what I have heard from my Chinese colleagues and will probably do that.


Jib Jun 14, 02 11:05 am

Don't discount the Shanghai Marriott, I was there two weeks ago and found it to be an excellent property. The staff at this property goes out of their way to meet your needs. There is a "Champs" sports bar and also an excellent Cantonese Rest. in the Hotel. I have never stayed at the Hyatt, but I perfer the Marriott over the Four Season or Portman Ritz Carlton. The Marriott is more relaxed and in a great location for running in the morning (1/2 mile from the Zoo) and 5 minutes to the Airport.

[This message has been edited by Jib (edited 06-14-2002).]

SeoulGold Jan 16, 03 6:49 pm

Shanghai properties?
 
I am thinking about using my two X14 promo certs to visit Shanghai this spring.

Does anyone have any comments about the Marriott properties located there: The Shanghai Marriott and the Renaissance Yangtze Shanghai Hotel?

Wanting to play tourist, I think I am looking for a place close to the city center(?). I understand both are close (3-8 km) to the older SHA Hongqiao airport, but are further away (35-50 km) from the new PVG PuDong airport.

Any comments about Shanghai in general as a tourist destination?

Thanks, in advance, for any input. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif


Fermat Jan 18, 03 1:39 am

not that i'm the voice of experience, but i've been told that Shanghai changes her face every 6 months or so... she "modernizes" so rapidly. When I visited the city in '99 and 2000, it was quite amazing. From a tourist perspective, there's shopping for knock-offs and brand-names alike, sightseeing up the Yangtze (and along the Huangpu River at night!). Go visit the Bund if you are an architecture buff... stunningly preserved bank buildings from the early 1800's. If you like staring at skyscrapers, stroll along the Pu Dong side of the Huangpu and gaze at the Jin Mao Hyatt (89 floors!).

Visit the Yu-Yuan gardens. Check out the Shanghai museum. Walk down Nanking Road (one of the busiest streets i've ever walked on).

Personally, if you have time, it's worth it to take day trips out to Su Zou (called the Venice of the Orient) and Hang Zhou... the lakes and the hills of Hang Zhou are quite beautiful. They also have an incredibly ancient temple and pagoda in the area. Amazing history.


Vasbyte Jan 18, 03 6:22 am

I second everything that Fermat posted. Shanghai is a wonderful tourist destination and as close as you'll get to seeing where this century is heading.

Vibrant, exciting, stunning architecture, great day trips from the city and friendly folks.

SHanghai Museum, Nanjing Road, go up to the roof of Peace Hotel and look over the Bund/HuangPo river at night, walk along the river at night. Take boat trip along Huanpo - pretty spectacular. Go to show at National Theatre - stunning building.

As Fermat suggested, the gardens in Suzhou are fantastic - even better, take the train out to Hanzhou and spend a few hours walking around the West Lake.

Go, Go, Go!

LisaH Jan 18, 03 10:26 am

Your assumption is correct. Hotels are in good shape but neither one is close to the city center. Taxi is not very expensive, about 25-40 CNY per trip (less than $5 US), depending on the traffic. So it may still work out. I made a reservation at the Renaissance Yangtze Shanghai Hotel for the past Christmas but canceled later when Crown Plaza had a better rate. It also has a better location. Shanghai is a vibrant and exciting place to visit. Hangzhou, on the other hand, is a very beatiful and relaxing city. Things are also cheaper in Hangzhou.

uncle wiggily Jan 18, 03 3:58 pm

We were in Shanghai last November and considered staying @ the Renaissance but learned that it was very far from the city center. Traffic is horrible even though the taxis are inexpensive. It still takes 30 minutes to get from the Renaissance to the Bund.
We stayed instead @ the Westin Shanghai, a 5-minute walk to the Bund and 3 blocks south of Nangpu Road.
The Westin opened in mid-October. The rooms there are awkwardly designed, e.g., disfunctional room lighting system and inconvenient furniture arrangements.
The Westin lobby incorporates a stunningly lighted stairway that changes colors every few seconds. It seemed, however, incongruous w/the rest of the decor.
The Marriott properties are probably more enjoyable....too bad they are so far away.

Fermat Jan 18, 03 4:48 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by uncle wiggily:
We were in Shanghai last November and considered staying @ the Renaissance but learned that it was very far from the city center.</font>
What city center? I usually assume that a cluster of really tall glass and steel skyscrapers denotes a "center", but in Shanghai's case, it's everywhere!.

The Westin is certainly in a decent and lively part of town but I found that many other hotels are just as convenient. For myself, the Portman Ritz-Carlton seemed like the ultimate in convenience... unless all of your business was on the Pu Dong side!

As for the Hongqiao Marriott, it's a bit further out from the Huangpu, but as everyone has said, it's still a relatively short taxi ride away.

Enjoy enjoy!

Wayne Aug 26, 03 2:27 pm

JW Marriott Shanghai Reports
 
Does anyone know when this hotel will open? The web site says September, but not when in September.

V9 Oct 18, 03 9:44 pm

It finally opened! Anyone stayed there?

HKBong Jan 6, 04 2:57 am

JW Marriott Shanghai Review

Ok, let me tell you this hotel is sexy without a doubt. The looks outside dont fool you. I am in Shanghai and I am staying there right now.

Location
JW Marriott is located in Tomorrow Plaza which is right next to People's Park/Square which is a hub on the train station line. The location is spectacular. Tomorrow Plaza has been built for seven years and finally finished. The joke is that the plaza will be built tomorrow and will never finish. This building is the tallest building in Pu Xi. Plaza 66 used to be the tallest. M arriott is the second tallest hotel in Shanghai after the GRand Hyatt in Pu Dong. This location is prime because of where it is and ease of transportation.

Hotel
The hotel lobby is located onthe 38th floor of the building while the lower floors being the service apartments. I had a package rate which made my room really really cheap and most likely the cheapest in the hotel. I was placed in room 4702. This room is pretty big, two queen size beds, a large bathroom with bath and shower. Amenities were great. View was excellent. Nothign mroe to say about the room. I will finish this later on but i have to run to dinner with some friends.

richarddd Mar 17, 04 5:59 am

Marriott Shanghai
 
I'm thinking of staying at the Marriott Hongqiao and Ramada Plaza Pudong. Anyone have any experience with these hotels?

Is there anything I should know about promotions, etc.? I don't have status with Marriott.

twebst Mar 17, 04 7:27 am

I have never been to the Ramada, but have stayed at the marriott on several occaisions. In fact I will be going there on saturday.It is a very nice and comfortable property. I have never been upgraded, but the rooms are nice sized on their own. Breakfast is good. Steakhouse is OK, but not bad for PRC.

goldarm Mar 17, 04 6:16 pm

If you are referring to the JW Marriott in Shanghai, I stayed there about 1 month ago. Very, Very nice overall, Outstanding rooms and a great concierge lounge. Try out the library room if you can get access. Did not try the restaurant however. Less than 1/2 hour to PVG airport on a Saturday morning with a maniac cabbie.

richarddd Mar 17, 04 8:19 pm

Nice and comfortable is good. That's about all I'm looking for.

The JW Marriott is a different property. Full name is JW Marriott Hotel Shanghai at Tomorrow Square, which is not the Marriott at Hongqiao airport.

lpeterman Jun 9, 04 9:34 am

JW Marriott Shanghai Reports
 
I have done a search and found several posts concerning this hotel, but they don't address one of my interests.

I'm looking for a 5 star hotel in Shanghai, with a good executive level/lounge, AND an out door pool, with large sitting area in which to enjoy liters of Beijing beer. :)

The JW web site says they have a pool, but is it just for looks or can you actually enjoy it?

Anyone help - or suggest other hotels?

R&R Jun 9, 04 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by lpeterman
I have done a search and found several posts concerning this hotel, but they don't address one of my interests.

I'm looking for a 5 star hotel in Shanghai, with a good executive level/lounge, AND an out door pool, with large sitting area in which to enjoy liters of Beijing beer. :)

The JW web site says they have a pool, but is it just for looks or can you actually enjoy it?

Anyone help - or suggest other hotels?


After a few liters of beer, the last thing you will need is a pool!


:D

twebst Jun 10, 04 6:34 am

Hongqiao
 
I like the Marriott Hongqiao . Not only is it convenient, but teh executive lounge staff is fantastic. The pool is is inside, but the beer at Champions will make up for it.

VinceLee Jun 10, 04 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by lpeterman
I have done a search and found several posts concerning this hotel, but they don't address one of my interests.

I'm looking for a 5 star hotel in Shanghai, with a good executive level/lounge, AND an out door pool, with large sitting area in which to enjoy liters of Beijing beer. :)

The JW web site says they have a pool, but is it just for looks or can you actually enjoy it?

Anyone help - or suggest other hotels?


I guanrantee you that JW Marriot Tomorrow Square in Shanghai is a very upscale hotel.

It's my favorite hotel in Shanghai. I ran into Meg Whitman there two months ago.

Froeken Jun 11, 04 6:35 pm

Where to stay in Shanghai with points?
 
I am going to spend a week of vacation with my husband and 4-year old in march of next year (in connection with a work trip). I plan to stay at a Marriott using points. Which would be the best option for a family of 3? Looking for location, facilities (pool, fitness, spa etc.) and comfortable rooms/suites. Sightseeing and shopping like maniacs is the plan.

What do you guys think? Where do we book? Any suggestions on room type also most welcome.

Froeken

Patron Jun 12, 04 9:26 am

JW Marriott Hotel Shanghai at Tomorrow Square (Cat 6)

goldarm Jun 12, 04 2:34 pm

I am at the JW Marriott in Tomorrow Sq right now. I concur that this would be an excellent selection for your requirements on pool (7th floor inside and outside), spa (Mandara), and health club (very nice). Location is great for walks in Tomorrow square, shopping is a short distance away and there are many restaurants outside the hotel and inside including the California Grill, JW marriott lounge, Marriott Cafe and Wan Hao (Cantonese).

Rooms are lavishly appointed and views are nice on clear days (if any). The hotel begin at the lobby on the 38th floor and rooms run up to the 58 or 59 the floor. The Executive lounge is one of the best I have been in.

moondog Jun 13, 04 1:40 am


Originally Posted by Patron
JW Marriott Hotel Shanghai at Tomorrow Square (Cat 6)

yes, no question (though i personally wouldn't waste points in shanghai -- too many decent options at around $60 per night)

Patron Jun 13, 04 3:17 am


Originally Posted by moondog
...i personally wouldn't waste points in shanghai -- too many decent options at around $60 per night)

Do you mind sharing some of your favorites with us?

mntblue Jun 14, 04 10:09 pm

Cat 7 in Shanghai? What a waste of points. The location of that hotel is really not great BTW.

In Shanghai, you shld check out the Grand Hyatt and the new Westin.



Originally Posted by Patron
Do you mind sharing some of your favorites with us?


moondog Jun 14, 04 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by Patron
Do you mind sharing some of your favorites with us?

since my last post, i've actually started to come around to idea of using points for the jw (even in spite of the cat 7 issue). i'm not saying i would do so myself, but the jw really is pretty nice and i actually like the location (which is saying a lot because i'm pretty picky when it comes to location).

as for my personal picks, before going further, it's worth pointing out that i'm pretty easy to please insofar as quality is concerned. all i require is a good location, a clean largish room, and comfortable bedding. a good gym is a bonus, but those are few and far between in china below the 5-star level (you can always get a day pass at the portman for y100 anyway).

shanghai hotel/jingan hotel -- these hotels (which are really one in the same) are directly behind the hilton on ulumuqi road and huashan road. the shanghai hotel is the nicest, followed by the new wing of the jingan hotel. i would not stay in the old wing of the jing-an again (not much cheaper than the new wing and considerably worse.)

yan'an hotel -- i mention this property because the location is very good (just south of jingan park on yan'an road), it's cheap, and it's popular though it's not one of my favorites.

hengshan hotel -- one of the best values in shanghai imo. i also like the location. although nanjing road and the bund are a bit of a treck, there are lots of good restaurants over there and you get easy access to maoming road, fuxing park, and xintianti via fuxing road.

huating hotel -- the quality has ebbed a bit since its starwood career ended a few years back, but not nearly as much as the prices. on the other hand, the location is suboptimal as far as i'm concerned.

ruijin guesthouse -- the ruijin is a great choice for those of you that want a colonial shanghai experience. it is comprised of several buildings in ruijin park (one of shanghai's trendier parks -- popularized by the face bar and occupied by the economist magazine) close to: huai hai road shopping district, fuxing park, xintiandi, and maoming road.

okura garden hotel -- good value, pretty gardens, nice rooms.

88 xintiandi -- kind of a mini soho grand in xintiandi. not cheap, but still less than most of the branded 5-stars.

as far as prices are concerned, you can get a general idea from ctrip and negotiate from there (if you so desire).

Patron Jun 15, 04 1:40 am

Valuable Travel Packages for someone who spends 7 nights in one hotel
 

Originally Posted by moondog
as far as prices are concerned, you can get a general idea from ctrip and negotiate from there (if you so desire).

Thank you very much for this link & taking the time to share your hotel suggestions with us! ^


Originally Posted by mntblue
Cat 7 in Shanghai? What a waste of points. The location of that hotel is really not great BTW.

If someone likes to redeem MR points in Marriott properties in Shanghai, he/she has four options, one of them is the JW (Cat 6) which I suggested. A seven day Cat 6 award goes for 130K MR points, if you invest 250K MR points for a travel package, you can transfer 85/120K miles into your (participating) FFP account. Assuming one night at JW costs USD 200,--/night, I value it useful to redeem MR points under OPs scenario.

Marriott Concierge Jun 15, 04 1:33 pm

I also have a suggestion
 
Another reward that can also be used at the JW Shanghai is the new Asia - Pacific Hopper Reward. This reward is offered to elite members only and is good for 7 nights split at any 3 participating properties in Australia and Asia.

For only 100,000 points you would receive 2 certificates valid for 2 consecutive nights and 1 certificate valid for 3 consecutive nights.

And you get the flexibility of choosing different properties as well as the opportunity to combine the 3 certificates in whatever way you choose. The reward code is 11E and can be requested via the web or by phone.

For more details and other elite exclusive awards please see the new thread I have started or click on the following link:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=329596

Froeken Jun 16, 04 3:29 am

Thanks!!!
 
It seems like it's the JW Marriott on the AP Hopper award - cool beans.

I am looking forward to spoiling both my husband and my little boy.

Thank for great advice - it is so nice to have your first hand experience to draw from.

Froeken :cool:

tripmaster Jul 12, 04 12:03 pm

Latest reports on JW Marriott Shanghai?
 
I'm staying there in the beginning of August --- how does the property compare with the Grand Hyatt?

It's still pretty new, and I've read some encouraging reviews here. Anyone else have recent experiences?

tripmaster Jul 12, 04 12:09 pm

JW Marriott Shanghai Reports
 
I'm staying there in the beginning of August --- how does the property compare with the Grand Hyatt?

It's still pretty new, and I've read some encouraging reviews here. Anyone else have recent experiences?

lpeterman Jul 12, 04 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by tripmaster
I'm staying there in the beginning of August --- how does the property compare with the Grand Hyatt?

It's still pretty new, and I've read some encouraging reviews here. Anyone else have recent experiences?

I have not stayed at the Grand Hyatt during the last 12 months. Stayed at the JW for 6 days two weeks ago. Paid for executive level and as plat was upgraded to a huge suite.

Cocktail hours are 5:30 - 9:30 PM - 4 hours :) Great service. Could not say anything bad.

SanDiego1K Jan 10, 05 11:26 am

Can anyone compare the Marriott to the Hilton, both in terms of location and in terms of quality of property?


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