holocker

I booked points with cash upgrade award last month for a stay in October and my credit card was charged immediatley.

escapefromphl

Pre charging is SOP. Takes 90 days to refund but they do refund.

honzeek_cz

I am aware and have done this many times with various hotels (like Cosmo Vegas or Dolphin Orlando ), but it always requires explicit agreement during the booking process and the charge posts automatically. Well I am waiting for them to write back.

Intl359Widget

As of late 2020 they were providing breakfast to Titanium and Ambassador Guests however that PDF above seemed a bit suspect.

Intl359Widget

As of late 2020 they were providing breakfast to Titanium and Ambassador Guests however that PDF above seemed a bit suspect.

jacobnut

Fresh from the hotel:

holocker

What is the difference between the Overwater superior villa and the overwater deluxe villa? Noticed for my November visit the cash and points rate for 5 nights went from 288,500 xpf + 370,000 points to 300,000 XPF + 340,000 points. This was for the overwater superior villa. The Deluxe is an extra 50,000 xpf.

smokie

I have a straight points reservation (340k for 5n) for late June 2022 that I will be cancelling soon. If any members (especially those with lots of posts) would like these nights, please DM me, and I will coordinate the cancellation with you. In my experience, this availability will become immediately bookable...

liw5215

I am just a Platinum Elite, do we get the breakfast?

Traveler Dave

The resort emailed this to me last month regarding our reservation in June

“As you are our Platinium Bonvoy Elite member, you are able to have a free upgrade to the category above which is Overwater Villa Superior Lagoon view. As well, you may have welcome gift at the resort, or the breakfast at Te Pahu restaurant or 1000 points or local gift which is 2 flute of Champagne for souvenir”

TD

liw5215

TD,

Thank you for the info. I have a reservation at the end of May, but I haven't received any emails from them yet. I also hold the reservation at Conrad Bora Bora (I am a Hilton Diamon member). still debating which place to stay.

Traveler Dave

We stayed at the Conrad last time. Really liked it. We were going to stay there this year too if they finished the 2-bedroom suites. But those are still on hold. The SrR has much larger rooms than the Conrad and want the extra space so our 13 year old is not sleeping next to us. We upgraded to the Royal at the Conrad last time and that worked out great. But they have raised the upgrade rate beyond what we want to pay.

With the “standard” points night rate room at the Conrad vs. StR, StR wins out hands down. We will also be staying at Thalasso in a OWB as a “standard” rate points room. Which also wins out over the Conrad in our view.

TD

UASPG

Reassuring news, but, unfortunately, they are over a year old.

https://www.tahiti-infos.com/Le-St-R...t_a197718.html

Google translation

The St Regis (still) deprived of expansion

Tahiti, January 21, 2021 – Dismissed by the administrative court at the end of 2019, the Four Seasons of Bora Bora has just won the return match against its competitor and neighbor the St Regis. The Paris Administrative Court of Appeal finally canceled the decree authorizing the second hotel to extend over the public maritime domain in Faanui to build 25 new overwater bungalows on the lagoon.

A new twist in the showdown that has pitted the Four Seasons hotel in Bora Bora against its competitor and neighbor the St Regis for almost six years. At the heart of the dispute, the project of the operating company of the St Regis to build an extension of the hotel establishment with a pontoon of 25 overwater bungalows on the lagoon, on an area adjoining the Four Seasons in Faanui. In December 2014, a first decree authorizing the hotel to occupy the public maritime domain in an area of ​​more than 20,000 m 2 had already been canceled, after an appeal by the operating company of the Four Seasons. A year later, however, the operator of the St Regis again obtained a second order from the country to occupy the public domain.

Same cause, same effects. The operator of the Four Seasons again seized the administrative justice by raising a land problem likely to cancel the authorization issued by the Country. Indeed, the public domain claimed by the St Regis is located in the right of an undivided land that was disputed at the time by the two hotel establishments. At the end of 2019, after having given the land court time to sort out part of the dispute, the Papeete administrative court had nevertheless rejected the request of the Four Seasons, considering that the St Regis presented guarantees of "apparent owner" of the famous lands in joint possession. .

Reversal on appeal

Seized by the operator of the Four Seasons, the Paris Administrative Court of Appeal has however changed the situation in a decision rendered last Tuesday. Recalling the mandatory conditions of a procedure of investigation and admissibility for any request for occupation of dependence of the public domain, the court noted that the St Regis had to justify "real rights" on the land adjoining the maritime public domain concerned . However, since the operating company was not in a position to present a title deed or lease attesting to its rights, French Polynesia could not grant it the authorization requested. Another problem, the operator of the St Regis had not specified in its request the "duration requested for the. Another mandatory condition to obtain the sesame of the Country.

The Paris Administrative Court of Appeal therefore finally canceled once again the decree authorizing the occupation of the maritime public domain by the St Regis.

Written by Antoine Samoyeau on Thursday January 21, 2021 at 3:37 p.m. | Read 3019 times

UASPG

https://www.radio1.pf/le-groupe-chin...e-en-faillite/

Google translation

THE CHINESE GROUP HNA, OWNER OF THE SAN REGIS AND THE HILTON OF MOOREA, PLACED IN BANKRUPTCY

HNA's headquarters in Hainan. ©DRThe Chinese group HNA, built around Hainan Airlines, announced yesterday that it was placed in bankruptcy proceedings, at the request of a creditor. HNA bought the St Regis hotels in Bora Bora and the Hilton hotels in Moorea from Louis Wane in 2016.

Founded in 2000, the HNA group has grown rapidly through all-out acquisitions to the point of becoming a gigantic diversified conglomerate, present not only in air travel but also in tourism and logistics. In addition to its flagship Hainan Airlines, itself created in 1993 and very popular in China, the group has stakes in Hong Kong Airlines, China West Airlines, Lucky Air, Tianjin Airlines and Hong Kong Express. In France, he once held 48% of the capital of the late Aigle Azur.


In the hotel business, he owns the Carlson chain and holds 25% of the Hilton chain. In 2016, in a $48 billion orgy of acquisitions, the group had, among other things, bought the St Regis in Bora Bora and the Hilton in Moorea from Louis Wane. At the end of 2017, the Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg already wrote that the two hotels were for sale, shortly after the Chinese government asked the most indebted large groups to clean up their situation. A first restructuring took place in 2018 following the accidental death of the group's president, Jian Wang.

Hit by the health crisis and today riddled with debt, HNA indicated yesterday in a press release that one of its creditors had requested its placement in bankruptcy and a restructuring, the group not being able to repay its debts, mainly loans contracted by the past to make its many acquisitions. Three days ago, airline founder Chen Feng disappeared from the membership list of the HNA Group's inner Communist Party committee, the conglomerate's top decision-making body, according to the South China Morning Post. To replenish its cash, the group will carry out disposals and withdraw from most of its assets, to keep only the airline Hainan Airlines.

msp3

It really makes you think, what would have happened if they had bought all of Starwood? On a side note, was there any benefit to staying at both properties when they share the same owner? I have such a trip coming up...