Dubai: which Starwood property? [Master Thread]
#76
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: KSA
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Going to DXB for the first time in October.
Using z3h I'm seeing:
- GH 733 / nt
- 4p SZR 450 / nt (or 10k*p / nt)
- 4p Bur Dubai 344 / nt (or 7k*p / nt)
What's your take on value / location? Is GH considered "cheap" at the above mentioned rate or could I get lucky with BTT or BRG?
Using z3h I'm seeing:
- GH 733 / nt
- 4p SZR 450 / nt (or 10k*p / nt)
- 4p Bur Dubai 344 / nt (or 7k*p / nt)
What's your take on value / location? Is GH considered "cheap" at the above mentioned rate or could I get lucky with BTT or BRG?
The GH is considered cheap IMO, I've found cheaper rates (600 per night), nothing can beat the hotel in the Dubai area, the hotel management are one of the best in the world. I tried several times finding a BRG for the GH but never suceeded, the spg site gives you the lowest.
The 4P SZR is in a great location if you're willing to spend two days at the Dubai Mall.
#77
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: DXB / WAW
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 726
Going to DXB for the first time in October.
Using z3h I'm seeing:
- GH 733 / nt
- 4p SZR 450 / nt (or 10k*p / nt)
- 4p Bur Dubai 344 / nt (or 7k*p / nt)
What's your take on value / location? Is GH considered "cheap" at the above mentioned rate or could I get lucky with BTT or BRG?
Using z3h I'm seeing:
- GH 733 / nt
- 4p SZR 450 / nt (or 10k*p / nt)
- 4p Bur Dubai 344 / nt (or 7k*p / nt)
What's your take on value / location? Is GH considered "cheap" at the above mentioned rate or could I get lucky with BTT or BRG?
#79
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
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Thanks all, helpful thread. Thinking of going to Dubai in November (first time). Everyone clearly loves the Grosvenor House, but it's priced over $400 USD per night - and that's out of my range. I notice no one mentions the Sheraton Dubai Mall of the Emirates. Does anyone have any experience with this property?
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
#80
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Thanks all, helpful thread. Thinking of going to Dubai in November (first time). Everyone clearly loves the Grosvenor House, but it's priced over $400 USD per night - and that's out of my range. I notice no one mentions the Sheraton Dubai Mall of the Emirates. Does anyone have any experience with this property?
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
Grosvenor is great because it has excellent service, very good standard, directly on Marina which is packed with people in the evening (especially in November), can use beach / pool facilities of Le Royal Meridien and has free shuttle bus to Mall of Emirates. But it might be expensive.
If you want beach access, Sheraton Jumeirah should be much cheaper and is just 5mins taxi or within walking distance from Marina. Travelling alone I would probably choose Four Points by Sheraton on Sheikh Zayed Road, as it is centrally located, 5mins drive from Dubai Mall / Souk Al Bahar.
#81
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Thanks all, helpful thread. Thinking of going to Dubai in November (first time). Everyone clearly loves the Grosvenor House, but it's priced over $400 USD per night - and that's out of my range. I notice no one mentions the Sheraton Dubai Mall of the Emirates. Does anyone have any experience with this property?
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
Last edited by LovetoTravel83; Aug 27, 2013 at 9:18 am
#82
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Thanks all, helpful thread. Thinking of going to Dubai in November (first time). Everyone clearly loves the Grosvenor House, but it's priced over $400 USD per night - and that's out of my range. I notice no one mentions the Sheraton Dubai Mall of the Emirates. Does anyone have any experience with this property?
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
How long do you have in Dubai? If just a couple of days and you're not too demanding of luxury, then you could be perfectly comfortable at one of the cheaper Four Points properties. If more than a couple of days, you could consider splitting your stay among a couple of hotels with one on the beach and one cheaper; staying at a non-beach hotel you'll have enough to do to stay entertained for a few days but a lot of the activities in Dubai can get repetitive (same shopping malls, restaurants, nightlife) so for a longer stay you'd want to have access to a beach/spa/etc. for some relaxation time.
Finally, if luxury is a priority for you, or if you want the real Dubai lavish/gaudy experience, and especially if you're paying cash anyway, explore outside the Starwood family...Dubai has an excess of upscale hotels so there are some 5-star hotels that can be had for far cheaper than one would pay for similar properties in other cities (though beach hotels do tend to be uniformly expensive). For example the Ritz-Carlton Dubai International Financial Centre is a smaller property and in a bit of an odd, though central, location, but is very comfortable with excellent facilities and is often available quite inexpensively. Also, if you have an Amex Platinum card, Dubai is an excellent city for inexpensive Fine Hotels & Resorts properties; otherwise you could work with a travel agent who has Virtuoso access or use the Visa Signature Luxury Hotels program.
#85
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Thanks all, helpful thread. Thinking of going to Dubai in November (first time). Everyone clearly loves the Grosvenor House, but it's priced over $400 USD per night - and that's out of my range. I notice no one mentions the Sheraton Dubai Mall of the Emirates. Does anyone have any experience with this property?
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
What is the difference between the locations? I would like to see Dubai - get a feel for the place. I would wander through the mall one day (but that's it). I like beach, but am traveling solo and don't want to be away from it all either.
#86
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The MOE is itself a destination worth visiting once, and you would have easy access to the Metro, although cabs are also inexpensive and fairly easy to come by (though you do sometimes have to queue). The main attractions of Dubai are split between two major areas, the Marina/MOE area and the Bur Dubai/Dubai Mall area, with a dead zone in between so either way you'll have some travel back and forth between the two areas; there's no single "central" location at which to stay.
How long do you have in Dubai? If more than a couple of days, you could consider splitting your stay among a couple of hotels with one on the beach and one cheaper; staying at a non-beach hotel you'll have enough to do to stay entertained for a few days but a lot of the activities in Dubai can get repetitive (same shopping malls, restaurants, nightlife) so for a longer stay you'd want to have access to a beach/spa/etc. for some relaxation time.
How long do you have in Dubai? If more than a couple of days, you could consider splitting your stay among a couple of hotels with one on the beach and one cheaper; staying at a non-beach hotel you'll have enough to do to stay entertained for a few days but a lot of the activities in Dubai can get repetitive (same shopping malls, restaurants, nightlife) so for a longer stay you'd want to have access to a beach/spa/etc. for some relaxation time.
You have to set your priorities what you want to have and where you want to be?
Grosvenor is great because it has excellent service, very good standard, directly on Marina which is packed with people in the evening (especially in November), can use beach / pool facilities of Le Royal Meridien and has free shuttle bus to Mall of Emirates. But it might be expensive.
If you want beach access, Sheraton Jumeirah should be much cheaper and is just 5mins taxi or within walking distance from Marina. Travelling alone I would probably choose Four Points by Sheraton on Sheikh Zayed Road, as it is centrally located, 5mins drive from Dubai Mall / Souk Al Bahar.
Grosvenor is great because it has excellent service, very good standard, directly on Marina which is packed with people in the evening (especially in November), can use beach / pool facilities of Le Royal Meridien and has free shuttle bus to Mall of Emirates. But it might be expensive.
If you want beach access, Sheraton Jumeirah should be much cheaper and is just 5mins taxi or within walking distance from Marina. Travelling alone I would probably choose Four Points by Sheraton on Sheikh Zayed Road, as it is centrally located, 5mins drive from Dubai Mall / Souk Al Bahar.
As such, I may choose the Sheraton Jumeirah (I do like beaches/pools), especially if it is easy to get from the Sheraton Jumeirah to the Mall / Bur Dabai area? Do you have any experience in this regard? Are there restaurants near the Jumeirah (or am I stuck at the resort unless I 'get out').
Last edited by TravelinSperry; Aug 27, 2013 at 10:22 am Reason: modify question
#87
Join Date: Sep 2009
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I would love to stay at the GH - but I pay my own way, and the GH is well over my budget. And at 25,000 points per night - I'd have to burn all my SP to stay there.
As such, I may choose the Sheraton Jumeirah (I do like beaches/pools), especially if it is easy to get from the Sheraton Jumeirah to the Mall / Bur Dabai area? Do you have any experience in this regard? Are there restaurants near the Jumeirah (or am I stuck at the resort unless I 'get out').
I would love to stay at the GH - but I pay my own way, and the GH is well over my budget. And at 25,000 points per night - I'd have to burn all my SP to stay there.
As such, I may choose the Sheraton Jumeirah (I do like beaches/pools), especially if it is easy to get from the Sheraton Jumeirah to the Mall / Bur Dabai area? Do you have any experience in this regard? Are there restaurants near the Jumeirah (or am I stuck at the resort unless I 'get out').
Sheraton Jumeirah is located at the end of The Walk promenade. It is 1.5km promenade with cafes, restaurants, it is busy and lively during evenings. You can also take a nice stroll towards Marina. I would take this location over Sheraton MOE anytime.
Also compare some websites for BRG, you might be able to get Sheraton Jumeirah and Grosvenor cheaper. I had just my BRG approved for Grosvenor with Otel.com
#88
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if you choose to stay at the Sheraton MOE then:
1) you are at the MOE. Huge beautiful mall. if you like skiing you can do it right there. very cool experience.
2) easy access to metro to go to the other part of Dubai where you can visit Dubai mall ( thats much bigger than MOE, crazy), khalifa tower where you can see Dubai from the top, Dubai fountain and old city
3) short taxi ride to Marina walk where it is packed with people at night ( Grosvenor house is very close to the Marina walk, Ritz Carlton is at the Marina walk, Sheraton JB is probably 3 mins walk to Marina walk I would say its at the Marina walk)
4) metro to Ibn Battuta mall. This mall is designed in a beautiful way as it shows some of the countries that have been visited by the famous Arabian voyager, Ibn Battuta. very nice place to visit.
if you choose to stay at Sheraton JB then
1) you are at the beach and within walking distance to Marina walk
2) short taxi ride to MOE then metro to the above mentioned destinations.
if you like to learn about the local culture and customs I would encourage you to visit sheikh Mohammed centre for cultural understanding. lots of foreign visitors go there http://www.cultures.ae
also visit Madinat Jumeirah its located close to the MOE, Grosvenor house and Marina area. its a nice area to explore . see this video
https://www.jumeirah.com/en/hotels-r...inat-jumeirah/
if you are interested you can also do the desert safari in a Land Cruiser or Hammer. there are tours that can pick you up from your hotel do the desert ride then drive you back to the hotel. its about 5 to 6 hours experience and it cost around $100.
there are many thing to do in Dubai. you will be busy. ask hotel concierge for suggestions or ask here in FT
Enjoy Dubai.
1) you are at the MOE. Huge beautiful mall. if you like skiing you can do it right there. very cool experience.
2) easy access to metro to go to the other part of Dubai where you can visit Dubai mall ( thats much bigger than MOE, crazy), khalifa tower where you can see Dubai from the top, Dubai fountain and old city
3) short taxi ride to Marina walk where it is packed with people at night ( Grosvenor house is very close to the Marina walk, Ritz Carlton is at the Marina walk, Sheraton JB is probably 3 mins walk to Marina walk I would say its at the Marina walk)
4) metro to Ibn Battuta mall. This mall is designed in a beautiful way as it shows some of the countries that have been visited by the famous Arabian voyager, Ibn Battuta. very nice place to visit.
if you choose to stay at Sheraton JB then
1) you are at the beach and within walking distance to Marina walk
2) short taxi ride to MOE then metro to the above mentioned destinations.
if you like to learn about the local culture and customs I would encourage you to visit sheikh Mohammed centre for cultural understanding. lots of foreign visitors go there http://www.cultures.ae
also visit Madinat Jumeirah its located close to the MOE, Grosvenor house and Marina area. its a nice area to explore . see this video
https://www.jumeirah.com/en/hotels-r...inat-jumeirah/
if you are interested you can also do the desert safari in a Land Cruiser or Hammer. there are tours that can pick you up from your hotel do the desert ride then drive you back to the hotel. its about 5 to 6 hours experience and it cost around $100.
there are many thing to do in Dubai. you will be busy. ask hotel concierge for suggestions or ask here in FT
Enjoy Dubai.
#89
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Point redemption suggestions?
Since posting in May rates have gone up and I've decided to go for primarily point redemption (unless the rates get really low) on all 3 nights and hotel hopping to find a favourite.
Here's the rundown for a sample night:
None of the point redemptions seem like terribly good value although I've done worse this year. I left out LRM as it's probably >25k.
Thoughts on which properties and a particular order? I need late checkout so I'll forego resorts on the last night. I'm sure it matters - no, I don't like shopping.
Here's the rundown for a sample night:
- 4P Downtown, 7k, AED 472
- 4P Bur Dubai, 7k, AED 360
- 4P SZR, 10k, AED 700
- Sheraton MOE, 12k, AED 950
- Grosvenor House, 20k, AED 1200
- Sheraton Jumeirah, 12k, AED 1150
None of the point redemptions seem like terribly good value although I've done worse this year. I left out LRM as it's probably >25k.
Thoughts on which properties and a particular order? I need late checkout so I'll forego resorts on the last night. I'm sure it matters - no, I don't like shopping.
#90
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Thanks, this was very helpful - I didn't understand there were 2 parts, with a 'dead zone' in the middle. I may consider splitting my stay - although I generally prefer to stay in one place (I travel a lot, and it helps if you don't have to unpack/repack as often). I'll either stay 4 nights and pay my own way - or stay 5 if I redeem points for my stay (was even considering using my Platinum requal gift for this). Might make sense at the Sheraton MOE - that's why I initially asked about it - gets me in the 4-5% redemption range.
However, staying in one place could also work, especially given that it sounds like you've found a great redemption value.
The only other thing to consider is that 5 nights in Dubai could get a bit boring--I describe Dubai as Vegas without the gambling; a lot of the activity is around shopping, nightlife, spas, big hotels, and gaudiness (not that there's anything wrong with that). For that reason alone, if you're going to do 5 nights at one hotel, I'd definitely go for the Sheraton Jumeirah, which at least has a more substantial set of on-site activities (the SMOE has the mall, of course, but you'll visit there no matter where you're staying).
If you're making the trip all the way from the US, might be worth considering adding a side trip elsewhere in the region (though various bits of instability these days do make that a bit harder). At the very least, you could consider going over to Abu Dhabi (1-1.5 hour's drive)--there's not much to see there, but there's a day's worth of stuff, and the St. Regis is a beautiful property with excellent pools and beaches.
Depending on your tolerance for driving in strange places, you could also consider renting a car. I would not recommend it for your first few days as the roads and traffic are a bit intimidating at first, but having been to Dubai a few times now I enjoy having a car as it's very much a driving city and you get a better feel for the place if driving around. If you do 5 nights in Dubai you could consider getting a car for your last couple of days and take a day trip over to Abu Dhabi, for example.