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Elite benefits:


Additional benefits for Ambassadors:
  • Waived Resort Fees
  • Complimentary 1pm Early Check-In
  • One Suite Upgrade per Year in Las Vegas (Up to 3 nights without using NUA)
  • Complimentary self-parking during stay
  • Expedited valet and taxi service
  • Guaranteed hotel reservation within 24 hours
  • 15% retail discount
  • Fine dining priority reservation
  • Dedicated line at participating restaurants, buffet, and cashier cage
  • VIP line access to select nightclubs in Las Vegas (member +1)
  • Priority access to pool cabana, spa, and salon reservations
  • Discount to select shows
A Qualifying Stay for Marriott Bonvoy members to earn Marriott Bonvoy points at included MGM Resorts destinations are stays booked through Marriott.com (including Award Redemption Stays), Marriott Bonvoy App, and the Marriott Customer Engagement Centers. Select prevailing rates booked through the MGM Resorts Call Center, and participating MGM Travel Agents may also be Qualifying Stays.


Stays booked through the following methods at MGM Collection with Marriott Bonvoy destinations are not considered Qualifying Stays:
  • MGM Resorts websites
  • MGM Rewards Mobile App
  • MGM Rewards website
  • MGM Resorts Call Center (non-prevailing rates such as casino offers, MGM Rewards member discounts, etc.)
  • Tour operator, online travel channel, or other third-party channel (such as Expedia, Hotwire, Priceline, etc.)
  • Booked at a group rate as part of an event, meeting, conference or organized tour
  • Booked at a tour operator, wholesaler, or airline crew room rate or package including, without limitation, organized tours or package bookings
  • Booked at a complimentary rate
  • Booked with a voucher or third-party award
  • Contracted rooms
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Marriott International and MGM Resorts Partnership

Old Jan 31, 2024, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by InFlightJay
As a current MGM Gold booking price -

March 3-4th NYNY stay is $490 (removing resort fee & Parking) including it is $658 (parking not included)

Marriott Titanium Price is $712 (resort fee included & Parking not included)

Welp, Vegas becomes much more expensive for us Titaniums. Won't ever get to MGM Gold because the benefits are not worth it.
Ridiculous. That's almost Honolulu prices for freakin' NYNY.
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Old Jan 31, 2024, 7:08 pm
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Incredibly disappointing that this is what this "Great" partnership turns out to be, after all the fanfare from Marriott and MGM that this would be something we'd love. Bonvoy elites literally have to pay more to get points (that are worth less than the difference in cost between the booking methods).

Caesars/Wyndham has it right. They dont allow double dipping of earning nights on stays if you choose to utilize the benefits of one program, but they grant you matching status so that you can make the choice on what program makes sense for you to use.

I have status in both Caesars and MGM, but with not earning any elite stays with Marriott, I'm more inclined to go to Caesars. Last year, the bulk of my stays were at MGM because of the Hyatt partnership. Very sad missed opportunity on Marriott and MGM's part.

An interesting thing I noticed too was the the MMP rate only applied to the over priced suites at NYNY, and not general rooms, so not even Marriott employees get anything out of it (where as with Cosmo, they were getting $99 rates).

Let's hope this partnership backfires and they quickly reverse course on these decisions.

Originally Posted by InFlightJay
Looks like they locked down loopholes.

"Members who hold membership in both Marriott Bonvoy Loyalty Program and MGM Rewards Program can choose to receive the benefits of, and receive earnings from Qualifying Charges from either program, but cannot concurrently receive the benefits of, nor receive earnings from Qualifying Rates and Qualifying Charges to both. Marriott Bonvoy and the MGM Rewards Program are two separate loyalty programs; therefore, accounts may not be merged."

As a current MGM Gold booking price -

March 3-7th NYNY stay is $490 (removing resort fee & Parking) including it is $658 (parking not included)

Marriott Titanium Price is $712 (resort fee included & Parking not included)

Welp, Vegas becomes much more expensive for us Titaniums. Won't ever get to MGM Gold because the benefits are not worth it.
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Old Jan 31, 2024, 7:41 pm
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Is the status match page up?
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Old Jan 31, 2024, 8:20 pm
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Originally Posted by RedElmo
Is the status match page up?
Why do you keep asking this? There is no status matching.
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Old Jan 31, 2024, 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by CLEguy
Why do you keep asking this? There is no status matching.
Hoping to get a different answer and yes there is. MGM matches to Marriott. But not the other way around.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 1:31 am
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I guess it was fun while it lasted with Hyatt... I should have known that the partnership would be worthless with Marriott just like most of the benefits with Marriott are becoming more and more worthless.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by bigshooter
I guess it was fun while it lasted with Hyatt... I should have known that the partnership would be worthless with Marriott just like most of the benefits with Marriott are becoming more and more worthless.
There are just so many Marriott elites now. You can get to 50 nights with two credit cards, their two FNCs, and 4 additional nights (or 9 if you don't have the pricey card that gives you Plat) during a double ENC promo. Marriott's strategy appears to be to make everyone mid to high level elites and build brand loyalty to be able to charge more for rooms, but MGM probably doesn't want to fill their hotels with Marriott elites who, if given MGM Gold, would pay no parking, no resort fees, and get discounted room rates.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by DallasEsq
There are just so many Marriott elites now. You can get to 50 nights with two credit cards, their two FNCs, and 4 additional nights (or 9 if you don't have the pricey card that gives you Plat) during a double ENC promo. Marriott's strategy appears to be to make everyone mid to high level elites and build brand loyalty to be able to charge more for rooms, but MGM probably doesn't want to fill their hotels with Marriott elites who, if given MGM Gold, would pay no parking, no resort fees, and get discounted room rates.
Most likely MGM looked at how much they got from the Hyatt elites and realized it didnt benefit them. Shockingly they didnt like people paying $29 for a hotel room and not gambling there
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by Schnit
Most likely MGM looked at how much they got from the Hyatt elites and realized it didnt benefit them. Shockingly they didnt like people paying $29 for a hotel room and not gambling there
The mistake there was giving Hyatt EQNs for stays where you enjoyed MGM Gold benefits. I never would have stayed at Luxor for 10 nights for under $400 but for Globalist qualification. I understand MGM wanting to crack down on that, but it's just made the Marriott partnership a real nothingburger for most of us except AMBs.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by DallasEsq
The mistake there was giving Hyatt EQNs for stays where you enjoyed MGM Gold benefits. I never would have stayed at Luxor for 10 nights for under $400 but for Globalist qualification. I understand MGM wanting to crack down on that, but it's just made the Marriott partnership a real nothingburger for most of us except AMBs.
Not just Hyatt EQN, if you link Hyatt to AA like I did, it was essentially triple dip, I earned MGM tier credits and reward points, while earning Hyatt EQN and points, but also AA miles and loyalty points, all at the same time
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Schnit
Most likely MGM looked at how much they got from the Hyatt elites and realized it didnt benefit them. Shockingly they didnt like people paying $29 for a hotel room and not gambling there
A large number of people did ghost stays, which lead to towards the middle of last year, stays for Excalibur and Luxor no longer allow mobile checkin for those with MGM account link to Hyatt
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by RedElmo
Is the status match page up?

Is it ?
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Schnit
Most likely MGM looked at how much they got from the Hyatt elites and realized it didnt benefit them. Shockingly they didnt like people paying $29 for a hotel room and not gambling there

What !
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by DallasEsq
The mistake there was giving Hyatt EQNs for stays where you enjoyed MGM Gold benefits. I never would have stayed at Luxor for 10 nights for under $400 but for Globalist qualification. I understand MGM wanting to crack down on that, but it's just made the Marriott partnership a real nothingburger for most of us except AMBs.
I'm not convinced this is MGM cracking down on it. MGM doesn't care if a Hyatt elite with MGM matched status is paying $29 for a hotel with the potential for not gambling. If it's a room that would've gone empty anyway, they're getting revenue there in addition to the potential for food/bev purchase. This could very well be Marriott. Marriott makes no money (other than the purchase of points by MGM) if the booking isn't made directly through Marriott's booking channels. Their refusal to allow us to earn points/night credits by booking through MGM is probably more Marriot's doing to ensure they get that revenue. Hyatt, on the other hand, was just happy to get the revenue from the points purchase by MGM so it was a non-issue for them.

I think what Marriott fails to understand is that the price/benefit difference between booking through them vs MGM is too significant to sway anybody to book through Marriott just for elite night credit and points.
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Old Feb 1, 2024, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Surge2009
I'm not convinced this is MGM cracking down on it. MGM doesn't care if a Hyatt elite with MGM matched status is paying $29 for a hotel with the potential for not gambling. If it's a room that would've gone empty anyway, they're getting revenue there in addition to the potential for food/bev purchase.
Some of the rates, without resort or parking fees, were so low at Excalibur and Luxor that I don't think they would cover variable costs. You would also get free nights at some of those lower end properties by virtue of being MGM Gold, so you could end up paying as little as $14/night if you included free nights as part of an extended stay. MGM actually raised resort fees at all properties recently so I don't think they're concerned about vacant rooms.

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