Sep 8, 2022, 9:34 am
Last edit by: margarita girl
Brand Bonus
Additional bonus of 2,000 points per brand for Marriott Bonvoy Credit Card holders for stays at Marriott Bonvoy participating hotel brands, starting with the second brand, will be awarded to the member’s account up to 6 weeks after the promotion ends.
Additional bonus of 2,000 points per brand for Marriott Bonvoy Credit Card holders for stays at Marriott Bonvoy participating hotel brands, starting with the second brand, will be awarded to the member’s account up to 6 weeks after the promotion ends.
2022 Q4 Global Promo: "Make a Brand New Bucket List" Sept 21 - Dec 15
Oct 3, 2022, 12:23 pm
#166
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Wanting First. Buying First.
Programs: Lifetime Executive Diamond Platinum VIP with Braniff, Eastern, Midway, National & Pan Am
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One of the Courtyard stays just posted and I earned 1321 points (755 base + 566 elite).
Assuming I amortize the points equally, I get those 1321 + an extra 2000 = 3321 points, in addition to 3x UR.
So my technical return on a $75.77 stay is $27.79 (3321 MR @ 0.7cpp + 227UR @ 2.0cpp) or 36%!
Assuming I amortize the points equally, I get those 1321 + an extra 2000 = 3321 points, in addition to 3x UR.
So my technical return on a $75.77 stay is $27.79 (3321 MR @ 0.7cpp + 227UR @ 2.0cpp) or 36%!
Spending $75.77 to receive $27.79 is a negative return on investment.
You are losing $47.98 on every one of those stays. Your ROI is -63.3%
Oct 3, 2022, 12:50 pm
#167
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 2,255
He got a rebate of 27.79 on that expense
Oct 3, 2022, 12:57 pm
#168
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Wanting First. Buying First.
Programs: Lifetime Executive Diamond Platinum VIP with Braniff, Eastern, Midway, National & Pan Am
Posts: 17,483
Currently I have a targeted double night promotion in addition to the global Q4 promo that gives points on every stay. Like any good Flyertalker who likes a challenge I'm mattress running. Not for any particular reason (since Platinum status is handed out like candy nowadays) but more just for fun.
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Oct 3, 2022, 1:40 pm
#169
Join Date: Jan 2020
Programs: Marriott Titanium (Lifetime Gold), Caesars Diamond
Posts: 1,399
I live full time in hotels, so Schnit is correct.
Alternatively, if I stayed in the equally-priced Radisson Blu next door, I would have a -94% ROI (3% UR at 2.0cpp)! Might as well live under a bridge at that point, then I would have a positive ROI!
Alternatively, if I stayed in the equally-priced Radisson Blu next door, I would have a -94% ROI (3% UR at 2.0cpp)! Might as well live under a bridge at that point, then I would have a positive ROI!
Oct 3, 2022, 1:47 pm
#170
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 2,255
Oct 8, 2022, 10:30 am
#171
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,754
For those of you also have 2 stays in different brands, how is the 2K pts show up after the 2nd brand which is the 2nd stay?
I have 2 stays each for a different brand finished last week. The 2nd stay posted the night credit, earned points, bonus points are a total of the 2K and elite welcome points. No additional 2K for different brand shows up.
Then I read the different brands promotion again, noticed that is only for Marriott credit card holder - but I hold both the AMEX and Chase cards, with the AMEX card in account profile... But the stays were paid with Marriott gift cards obtained from pre-Pandemic time. May be only payment made with Marriott credit card would earn the different brand bonus? But the language is completely unclear, actually not mentioned such requirement.
I did not even remember I have added the 20% statement credit offer from AMEX long time ago. The property put a $1 deposit charge to the AMEX card causing AMEX to sent "Offer Used" alert. I then realized there was actually an AMEX offer. Since it took great effort for the property to use gift card, I dont want to switch back. Nor I believe the property knows how to reverse the charge put on gift card!
In any case I was a bit obsessed in getting rid of those gift cards which I am not lucky to have easy time using them. They are really Sunk Cost to me.
I have 2 stays each for a different brand finished last week. The 2nd stay posted the night credit, earned points, bonus points are a total of the 2K and elite welcome points. No additional 2K for different brand shows up.
Then I read the different brands promotion again, noticed that is only for Marriott credit card holder - but I hold both the AMEX and Chase cards, with the AMEX card in account profile... But the stays were paid with Marriott gift cards obtained from pre-Pandemic time. May be only payment made with Marriott credit card would earn the different brand bonus? But the language is completely unclear, actually not mentioned such requirement.
I did not even remember I have added the 20% statement credit offer from AMEX long time ago. The property put a $1 deposit charge to the AMEX card causing AMEX to sent "Offer Used" alert. I then realized there was actually an AMEX offer. Since it took great effort for the property to use gift card, I dont want to switch back. Nor I believe the property knows how to reverse the charge put on gift card!
In any case I was a bit obsessed in getting rid of those gift cards which I am not lucky to have easy time using them. They are really Sunk Cost to me.
Last edited by Happy; Oct 8, 2022 at 10:39 am
Oct 9, 2022, 7:03 am
#173
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Englandshire
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Just to note that the actual wording is "be awarded to the member’s account up to 6 weeks after the promotion ends"
If things run true to form, this means "we've given ourselves a big window to stall you with "you need to wait up to 6 weeks for your points" while we figure out how to correct the inevitable points-posting problems that always seem to arise on our promotions"
If things run true to form, this means "we've given ourselves a big window to stall you with "you need to wait up to 6 weeks for your points" while we figure out how to correct the inevitable points-posting problems that always seem to arise on our promotions"
Oct 11, 2022, 12:19 am
#176
Moderator: Hyatt Gold Passport & Star Alliance
Join Date: May 1998
Location: London, UK
Programs: UA-1K 3MM/HY- LT Globalist/BA-GGL/GfL
Posts: 12,085
How are these posting - I've just had my second brand, as a credit card holder, but the 2,000 have not posted for the brand. The 2,000 for the second stay has posted within the stay.
Oct 11, 2022, 1:50 am
#177
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
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I wonder if Marriott has screwed up the IT for non-US credit card holders. (or if there is some really tiny print in there that we missed...)
Oct 11, 2022, 2:53 am
#178
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Englandshire
Programs: SPG LT Plat, BA G, BD*LG, MG Blue+ ...
Posts: 16,027
Marriott has quite a history of aggravating their customers and causing unnecessary extra work for themselves by launching promotions with over-complex posting arrangements and imprecise T&Cs.
Oct 11, 2022, 3:02 am
#179
Company Representative, Marriott Bonvoy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy
Posts: 1,086
As per the terms of the promotion, additional bonus of 2,000 points per brand for Marriott Bonvoy Credit Card holders for stays at Marriott Bonvoy participating hotel brands, starting with the second brand, will be awarded to the member’s account up to 6 weeks after the promotion ends.
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Oct 11, 2022, 3:44 am
#180
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Bangkok
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Titanium, BAEC Silver, TK Miles & Smiles Elite
Posts: 2,208
I do not think it’s complicated to work out why the brand bonuses for credit card holders will post after the promo is finished.
The 2000 points per stay is a universal bonus for everyone so it is easy to programme when each stay posts for everyone.
The brand bonus is for a subset of members that requires validation to determine eligibility and a more complex algorithm to determine how many individual brands the eligible guests stayed at during the period. Far easier to programme this as a one-off batch process “up to six weeks” after the promo ends.
The 2000 points per stay is a universal bonus for everyone so it is easy to programme when each stay posts for everyone.
The brand bonus is for a subset of members that requires validation to determine eligibility and a more complex algorithm to determine how many individual brands the eligible guests stayed at during the period. Far easier to programme this as a one-off batch process “up to six weeks” after the promo ends.