Hotels asking for tips for housekeeping via QR code
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In 2009, I went to Hong Kong and Singapore. Stayed at IC in both city. For the 35 nights in Hong Kong, I tipped the housekeeping lady HK$1000 (around $125) on my second day. For the 3 nights in Singapore, the hotel sent a 20 year old girl to clean my room. I tipped her S$20 but I REALLY REALLY wanted to give her was a diamond ring.
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In 2009, I went to Hong Kong and Singapore. Stayed at IC in both city. For the 35 nights in Hong Kong, I tipped the housekeeping lady HK$1000 (around $125) on my second day. For the 3 nights in Singapore, the hotel sent a 20 year old girl to clean my room. I tipped her S$20 but I REALLY REALLY wanted to give her was a diamond ring.
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I think it's important to note these aren't "habits" per se - not calling you out specifically, but rather something baked in to the structure of workplace law in the United States. Under federal law, and under most state laws, certain workers who "customarily" receive tipped are not required to be paid the full minimum wage. A lot of people who call bartenders in lounges or housekeeping staff "greedy" on Flyertalk do not realize this, or do not realize that there is no reason for bars/lounges/hotels to pay the non-tipped full minimum wage until and unless these laws are changed.
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Why specifically in the UK?
I also consider "not paying a living wage in the service sector" a weird US habit - might be of course the wrong word to use. As you correctly point out it's baked in to your laws - and I really wish such laws would remain the "privilege" of US workers only.
I also consider "not paying a living wage in the service sector" a weird US habit - might be of course the wrong word to use. As you correctly point out it's baked in to your laws - and I really wish such laws would remain the "privilege" of US workers only.
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BTW, when did housekeepers become Ambassadors? Or are they being paid so well that they can spend 100+ nights and $20,000 per year in Bonvoy hotels? If so, they don't need tips.
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This reflects everything that's bad w Marriott culture - title inflation, low wages, gauche salary raising techniques.
BTW, I don't like America's tipping culture. It's not really part of the culture... It's a system forced by corporations to get their employees paid reasonable amounts without coming out of budget and thus hurting stock prices. It disgust me
I too dislike the employer culture that tries to make employees dependent upon customer tips for the bulk of their income. The "tipping culture" is unhealthy for society and bad for most employees who become dependent upon tips for the bulk of their take-home money.
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It's just one of those things, I suppose. I was ok with it until they busted out the tip jars, wanted extra for making my $6 coffee and trying to gaslight me into tipping 20%+ on the total bill inclusive of tax, health care charge and alcohol. This is where they've lost me, and in these situations, I lower their tip to 10%. If they complain, I tell the owner or manager, I'm never returning.
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I am always perplexed by opaque pricing practices in the US. Tip, resort fees, destination fees etc. How about the radical idea to account for all these things in the room rate ....
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My only rebuttal was to the commenter who suggested that because they find the system hideous, they should be exempt from it. That behavior is poor form, IMHO, as it comes at real expense of someone's wages. But the larger critique is valid.
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Not the quoted, but as an American, I agree, the system is terrible, particularly when it comes to bartenders, servers, etc. That's a completely fair critique that some places are addressing, especially in the face of Covid where they could not fill positions (at least in my city).
My only rebuttal was to the commenter who suggested that because they find the system is hideous, they should be exempt from it. That behavior is poor form, IMHO, as it comes at real expense of someone's wages. But the larger critique is valid IMHO.
My only rebuttal was to the commenter who suggested that because they find the system is hideous, they should be exempt from it. That behavior is poor form, IMHO, as it comes at real expense of someone's wages. But the larger critique is valid IMHO.
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