Peak/off peak/standard - pointsaver
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Peak/off peak/standard - pointsaver
For any category hotel, there are 6 different rate.
point saver/ standard combining with peak/standard/off peak.
Is there any calendar to check?
I am staying in a cat 1, and it has just moved all off peak -> standard and standard to peak. (still being pointsaver)
so the stay that i booked previously cost 22000 points is now 34000 points (same stay, 5 nights)
Also, how exactly does the 5th night free apply when the stay is a combination of off peak/standard/peak?
point saver/ standard combining with peak/standard/off peak.
Is there any calendar to check?
I am staying in a cat 1, and it has just moved all off peak -> standard and standard to peak. (still being pointsaver)
so the stay that i booked previously cost 22000 points is now 34000 points (same stay, 5 nights)
Also, how exactly does the 5th night free apply when the stay is a combination of off peak/standard/peak?
#2
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,912
For any category hotel, there are 6 different rate.
point saver/ standard combining with peak/standard/off peak.
Is there any calendar to check?
I am staying in a cat 1, and it has just moved all off peak -> standard and standard to peak. (still being pointsaver)
so the stay that i booked previously cost 22000 points is now 34000 points (same stay, 5 nights)
Also, how exactly does the 5th night free apply when the stay is a combination of off peak/standard/peak?
point saver/ standard combining with peak/standard/off peak.
Is there any calendar to check?
I am staying in a cat 1, and it has just moved all off peak -> standard and standard to peak. (still being pointsaver)
so the stay that i booked previously cost 22000 points is now 34000 points (same stay, 5 nights)
Also, how exactly does the 5th night free apply when the stay is a combination of off peak/standard/peak?
5th night free is typically the lowest cost night free.
#3
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,276
When off-peak, standard, and peak were introduced in 2019, Marriott Bonvoy renamed “5th Night Free” to “Stay for 5, Pay for 4."
For a stay of 5 to 9 nights, the lowest-point night is free. For a stay of 10 to 14 nights, the two lowest-point nights are free. And so on, in multiples of five nights.
For a stay of 5 to 9 nights, the lowest-point night is free. For a stay of 10 to 14 nights, the two lowest-point nights are free. And so on, in multiples of five nights.
#4
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Marriott can designate a hotel peak, off peak. standard / pointsave at will? basically, the same room can cost
4k, 6k, 8,5k 5k 7,5k, 10k and one wont know until they book because award cost can change anytime?
luckily my 15 nights in 3 sets of 5 and they cost 22k, 20k and 22k respectively and tag on one paid night for a total of 16 nights...
4k, 6k, 8,5k 5k 7,5k, 10k and one wont know until they book because award cost can change anytime?
luckily my 15 nights in 3 sets of 5 and they cost 22k, 20k and 22k respectively and tag on one paid night for a total of 16 nights...
#5
Join Date: Aug 2010
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We were looking to use our 35K point certificate recently on an upcoming weekend stay. Saturday was 37,500 points, Sunday was 27,500. Didn't understand it, but grabbed that Sunday night. Both nights were similar $$ wise
#6
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I would be very curious to see a PointSaver at peak pricing.
But yes... Marriott can change the award pricing at will.
But yes... Marriott can change the award pricing at will.
#7
Join Date: Mar 2018
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#8
Marriott can just change the peak/offpeak/standard on the fly without any warning. It only encourages folks to have more speculative bookings. Some say this is not ethical. I do not think Marriott cares anything about it. Clearly Marriott does not have a good reputation any longer with the category change in 2020 and the introduction of peak/offpeak during the pandemic.
It is very hard to use the 35k and 50k FN awards with the peak change....
It is very hard to use the 35k and 50k FN awards with the peak change....
#9
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,510
Dying here from no travel for 2 years so finally going to zip over to Vancouver for 3 nights over Remembrance Day. I thought I would take a peak at redemption rates but as usual an absolute robbery in attempting to redeem points! I probably will pay cash but just out of curiosity, one question.
ie. JW Marriott Parq shows a point saver redemption for 135000 from Nov.11-14. When I actually hit reserve it then shows 140000 points needed. Am I missing something I need to do or just another IT glitch?
ie. JW Marriott Parq shows a point saver redemption for 135000 from Nov.11-14. When I actually hit reserve it then shows 140000 points needed. Am I missing something I need to do or just another IT glitch?
#10
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Dying here from no travel for 2 years so finally going to zip over to Vancouver for 3 nights over Remembrance Day. I thought I would take a peak at redemption rates but as usual an absolute robbery in attempting to redeem points! I probably will pay cash but just out of curiosity, one question.
ie. JW Marriott Parq shows a point saver redemption for 135000 from Nov.11-14. When I actually hit reserve it then shows 140000 points needed. Am I missing something I need to do or just another IT glitch?
ie. JW Marriott Parq shows a point saver redemption for 135000 from Nov.11-14. When I actually hit reserve it then shows 140000 points needed. Am I missing something I need to do or just another IT glitch?
#11
Join Date: Nov 2007
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Hilton Honors Diamond, Delta Gold
Posts: 4,347
Has anyone come across the following scenario? I'm looking at booking a category 8 hotel. I need 4 nights so I put in my dates and it shows me the rates as follows:
Night 1 80k pointsaver
Night 2 85k
Night 3 100k
Night 4 80k pointsaver
Total 345k points
I was going to ask for late checkout but then I remembered that Marriott has 5th night free so rather than have to rely on them granting me late checkout based on availability, I can guarantee it for myself by just putting in the checkout date for the following day without it costing me any extra points.
However, when I do that, it shows me that Night 1 (being the exact same check in date as previously) is 85k (not 80k) and it's struck out to be the free night, then 2, 4, and 5 are also all 85k, and 3 remains at 100k. Total 355k. I'm not sure why the pointsaver rates no longer apply to Night 1 and 4 (and 5 as well because it is 80k on the flexible calendar as well).
When I looked at the flexible calendar for the entire month of December it shows that my nights 1, 4, and 5 are all at 80k. So according to that it should be 3 nights at 80k with one of them as the free night, so 2 nights @160k +85k +100k = the same 345k as booking for just 4 nights.
10k points is not all that big of a deal to guarantee myself checkout at my leisure, but I'm not understanding why this is happening.
Night 1 80k pointsaver
Night 2 85k
Night 3 100k
Night 4 80k pointsaver
Total 345k points
I was going to ask for late checkout but then I remembered that Marriott has 5th night free so rather than have to rely on them granting me late checkout based on availability, I can guarantee it for myself by just putting in the checkout date for the following day without it costing me any extra points.
However, when I do that, it shows me that Night 1 (being the exact same check in date as previously) is 85k (not 80k) and it's struck out to be the free night, then 2, 4, and 5 are also all 85k, and 3 remains at 100k. Total 355k. I'm not sure why the pointsaver rates no longer apply to Night 1 and 4 (and 5 as well because it is 80k on the flexible calendar as well).
When I looked at the flexible calendar for the entire month of December it shows that my nights 1, 4, and 5 are all at 80k. So according to that it should be 3 nights at 80k with one of them as the free night, so 2 nights @160k +85k +100k = the same 345k as booking for just 4 nights.
10k points is not all that big of a deal to guarantee myself checkout at my leisure, but I'm not understanding why this is happening.
#13
Join Date: Nov 2007
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#15
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