Am I justified in being dissappointed with zero upgrade and poor room conditions?
#1
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Am I justified in being dissappointed with zero upgrade and poor room conditions?
Booked a two night stay Mon-Wed (March 22-24, 2021) at the Westin La Paloma in Tucson. Submitted Suite Night upgrade request for the stay, and I was notified the day of that none were available. I checked online and both king bed corner room master suite and king bed mountain view deluxe rooms were still advertised as bookable. I again asked politely at the front desk if any upgrade was available and told "no". I was given a two queen room with an interior view of the pool bars roof, and the beds completely looked disheveled (see pics I took below). I called down and asked if there was something better as this room didn't feel as if it had been properly cleaned. The desk staff agreed to move me to a king bed interior facing room with a great view of the back of the other building blocked by a palo verde tree. I asked the bellman what he thought of the room condition and he stated it looked right to him. I've staid at this property a few times before and the room conditions were much better. What aggravates me about this is the apparent (at least to me) lack of any effort and overall decline in hotel quality. Am I expecting too much, or am I justified in being annoyed?
Background: booked the rooms at the advertised full rate, and I'm a Titanium Bonvoy member. I was staying with my wife, which makes this more disappointing to me as I had built this resort up to her and it was her first time in Arizona. Thanks for all the feedback.
Updated Response From Hotel Manager:
Response from @@@@ @@@@, General Manager at The Westin La Paloma Resort & Spa
Responded 5 days ago
It is always an honor when our guests return and bring their families, and we are very sorry to hear you were not fully pleased with your recent stay. Thank you for taking the time to provide your feedback so we may address your disappointment. We apologize for missing your expectations for your guestroom and regret the negative impact it had on your overall enjoyment. We appreciate your mention of our associates for excellent service. It is our hope to have a chance to welcome you for a more memorable experience in the future.
Sincerely,
@@@@@@@—General Manager
This response is the subjective opinion of the management representative and not of TripAdvisor LLC
Disheveled Bed
Disheveled Beds
Second bed
Amazing view of the back of a building, through a tree.
Background: booked the rooms at the advertised full rate, and I'm a Titanium Bonvoy member. I was staying with my wife, which makes this more disappointing to me as I had built this resort up to her and it was her first time in Arizona. Thanks for all the feedback.
Updated Response From Hotel Manager:
Response from @@@@ @@@@, General Manager at The Westin La Paloma Resort & Spa
Responded 5 days ago
It is always an honor when our guests return and bring their families, and we are very sorry to hear you were not fully pleased with your recent stay. Thank you for taking the time to provide your feedback so we may address your disappointment. We apologize for missing your expectations for your guestroom and regret the negative impact it had on your overall enjoyment. We appreciate your mention of our associates for excellent service. It is our hope to have a chance to welcome you for a more memorable experience in the future.
Sincerely,
@@@@@@@—General Manager
This response is the subjective opinion of the management representative and not of TripAdvisor LLC
Disheveled Bed
Disheveled Beds
Second bed
Amazing view of the back of a building, through a tree.
Last edited by lrbenko; May 4, 2021 at 1:50 pm Reason: Updated
#3
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True. I chose this location based on past experiences and just didn't want to go through the hassle (and probable charge) of changing hotels once I had checked in. It was between this property, the JW Star Pass and the Hilton El Conquistador, both of which have given me nice rooms in the past as well.
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Lies about room availability have also been my experience with Marriott recently.
Besides FT, you should post this review on Marriott, Google Maps and Trip Advisor.
SNA and Complimentary upgrades have been rare for me, which is why I am staying much more with Hilton during Covid.
This weekend will be my first SNA upgrade in months.
Some hotels blame everything on Covid, saying there is little or no housekeeping available.
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Just because a suite is available to book for cash does not necessarily mean it is available for an upgrade. The photos of the 2 Queen room you posted does indeed look poorly made, I would have asked to be moved. How was the King arranged?
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Post as mentioned and also send pictures to marriott cust service. I'd even go as far as contacting corporate and let them know of your experience along with the pictures.
Blaming everything on covid is way past unacceptable at this point. It looks like they just threw the sheets and pillows on there, so I'd be concerned about what else was skipped or not cleaned.
Blaming everything on covid is way past unacceptable at this point. It looks like they just threw the sheets and pillows on there, so I'd be concerned about what else was skipped or not cleaned.
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The King bed wasn't much better, but at least the pillows in the king weren't so run down.
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Post as mentioned and also send pictures to marriott cust service. I'd even go as far as contacting corporate and let them know of your experience along with the pictures.
Blaming everything on covid is way past unacceptable at this point. It looks like they just threw the sheets and pillows on there, so I'd be concerned about what else was skipped or not cleaned.
Blaming everything on covid is way past unacceptable at this point. It looks like they just threw the sheets and pillows on there, so I'd be concerned about what else was skipped or not cleaned.
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I'd be disappointed as well. Titanium should get a better room and the bed condition totally unacceptable. Looks like the room was already rejected by someone else, and not refreshed.
This place gets pretty poor reviews and the most common comment is "run down." I didn't consider for recent Tucson visit. Wasn't that impressed with the product at Starr Pass, either, though we liked the location and the breakfast.
This place gets pretty poor reviews and the most common comment is "run down." I didn't consider for recent Tucson visit. Wasn't that impressed with the product at Starr Pass, either, though we liked the location and the breakfast.
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To me, those beds look like they might have been "used".