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DallasEsq Jul 23, 2020 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by jn in ca (Post 32547096)
The rates are still lower than normal, but not by much. There are no hotels still in the sub $70 range. I've been checking the websites to try and find cheap hotels anywhere in California. There are low rates, but there just aren't any rates wildly below normal. If anyone remembers, in 2009 the San Francisco Hyatt was famously available on Priceline for $50. This time around there are no rates of that level.

I've noticed that, too. I wonder if it has to do more with the hotels not wanting to sell rooms below their cost, or them not wanting to set people's expectations too low on what they should pay for a room. The airlines have gone a completely different direction with covid pricing.

honzeek_cz Jul 24, 2020 1:33 am

sheraton fuschlsee, quite full during weekend, not i would guess 30-40 percent.

Schweden Jul 25, 2020 9:39 am

I've asked the desk whenever I've stayed. Occupancy in Canada is generally much lower.

Delta Quebec City was 50% occupied over a July weekend and the desk said that was a recent record. A brand new extended stay Marriott in a small town was going at 20% in early July. Looking at industry statistics, the Montreal area is at 17% occupancy on average last week and that's with many hotels still closed. I wouldn't be surprised if the Marriott properties near the airport are running at around 10% based on their rates.

cab747 Jul 26, 2020 8:24 am

Just came off a week long road trip visiting the Utah National Parks. SHS and FFI in Moab were sold out, or very close to it, with rates about $300. Used Hyatt Place for 2 nights for 8K per night, and a HIX free night cert since many locations were sold out. SHS in Springdale (Zion) was sold out one night, and close to it the second night, rates fluctuating constantly first night but average $150-200 with AAA rate. Refused to burn 50K points per night at these locations, but was able to get a $93 rate which was great, and then use a 27.5K award at the HIX next door the next night.

So needless to say, the hotels have been running pretty full.

RobOnLI Jul 26, 2020 8:16 pm

I'm currently staying at a Marriott property in downtown DC. I started in mid March right as the pandemic hit. The following week mine was the only room occupied for several nights. For weeks they ran sub 10% while most Marriott properties in DC shut down. DC is a business-driven town and while they hit Phase 2 weeks ago, % of occupancy has not increased all that much. They do get up to the 20-25% range, usually on weekends from leisure travelers.

But here's the kicker...I would say 90% of the check ins, even on weekends, are Marriott employee rates. So while they are happy to show their owners they are filling beds, their ADR is abysmal.

I believe some of the shut Marriott properties in town are trying to open in late July or August but I just can't see why they would.

Let's not forget...business travel is literally in the toilet. Outside of destination hotels like national parks or the beach, most hotels are not seeing great occupancy. And that will all dry up and go away once mid August and early September hit IMO. Whether children are going to school in-person or remotely, the family road trips will basically die out.

Airlines have already started warning that future bookings have decreased again. You can blame that on the virus resurgence, states requiring quarantine or just on the fact that when summer ends and people generally stop traveling there's no business travel to fill the void.

-RM

obunewbie17 Jul 27, 2020 8:35 am


Originally Posted by RobOnLI (Post 32560805)
I'm currently staying at a Marriott property in downtown DC. I started in mid March right as the pandemic hit. The following week mine was the only room occupied for several nights. For weeks they ran sub 10% while most Marriott properties in DC shut down. DC is a business-driven town and while they hit Phase 2 weeks ago, % of occupancy has not increased all that much. They do get up to the 20-25% range, usually on weekends from leisure travelers.

But here's the kicker...I would say 90% of the check ins, even on weekends, are Marriott employee rates. So while they are happy to show their owners they are filling beds, their ADR is abysmal.

I believe some of the shut Marriott properties in town are trying to open in late July or August but I just can't see why they would.

Let's not forget...business travel is literally in the toilet. Outside of destination hotels like national parks or the beach, most hotels are not seeing great occupancy. And that will all dry up and go away once mid August and early September hit IMO. Whether children are going to school in-person or remotely, the family road trips will basically die out.

Airlines have already started warning that future bookings have decreased again. You can blame that on the virus resurgence, states requiring quarantine or just on the fact that when summer ends and people generally stop traveling there's no business travel to fill the void.

-RM

I think this perfectly sums up what I’ve seen on this thread so far. Locations that have a bit more of a touristy draw have higher occupancy rates so far (in general). While other locations are less than half full (at best). It will be morbidly interesting to see what these rates look like Sept/Oct when there isn’t as much leisure travel. I’ve been to DSM once and KC twice this month — nothing above 27% occupancy at some pretty nice properties with favorable rates.

Feeling very heartbroken for the friends I’ve made on staff at these properties. Some have been out of work since mid-March.


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