Last edit by: seawolf
Per Marriott Lurker II in post #608:
Due to the rapidly evolving situation with COVID-19, our Elite Benefit compensation related to our Ultimate Reservation Guarantee, Room Type Guarantee, Welcome Gifts, and Lounge access has been placed on hold.
We appreciate your understanding during these challenging times.
Changes to Marriott Bonvoy Stays and Services Due to Covid (Discussion Thread)
#706
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
It was my first hotel stay in 158 days. With Titanium bonus, welcome points & the stay promotion, a cool 5,408 points. The "topper;" it was also my 400th night and I turned LTG.
James
#708
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 2
To me, the most disconcerting part of this by far is the apparent suspension of the Ultimate Reservation Guarantee. I was walked from a Fairfield in KS last month with no explanation and no offer of any assistance whatsoever. I have been going back and forth with Marriott Bonvoy to obtain some reasonable level of compensation. The guarantee for a Fairfield specifies 90,000 points and $100. I spent more than $100 extra just to find a room 30 miles away that night at a Courtyard that was nearly sold out. I understand why hotels can't offer all the same perks at the same levels to their now-more-more limited clientele (breakfast, etc.), and I know they are under enormous financial pressures. Still, it makes no sense to me that a hotel can ignore a Bonvoy reservation and chalk it up to COVID-related disruption when that hotel is open for business (and presumably sold out).
#710
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Mexico City
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold, IHG Silver, Choice Platinum, Wyndham Gold
Posts: 3,847
#711
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Somewhere in the Mid-Atlantic
Programs: Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 619
I'm not trying to disparage anyone's opinions but I truly don't think people understand how precarious certain hotel's situations are. I've done this in some form for over two decades and I've got friends/former collegues at a lot of properties across several Hilton/Marriott brands. I know people at two locations that have temporarily ceased operations or one at a Courtyard that last week got it's airport shuttle repossessed. Sure there are pockets here and there where the market has recovered somewhat (near national parks and beaches) but the average especially select service property is hurting big time and amenities will only come back once demand warrants it for a considerable period of time, not the other way around. People don't want to hear it, but it's true. Standards are on a pause or hiatus and no brand is going to crack the whip any time soon unless they want more temporary/permanent closures.
#712
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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#713
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,150
#714
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA USA
Programs: UA 1KMM, Bonvoy LTE+A, HH D, Nat'l EE, Hertz Plat, Avis PC
Posts: 3,712
I have mixed feelings. I definitely feel for hotel operators and staffs in these unprecedented times, and am willing to cut them a lot more slack than I normally would.
On the other hand, I also feel that hotels should be rolling out the red carpet to ANY guests right now, and especially elite members of loyalty programs. As I've said in other threads, this crisis offers properties an opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to hospitality.
Flipping the coin again, though, hotels are really screwed here. A previous poster said it would be nice to come into their room and find a bottle of wine on ice. I agree, but I can just imagine the over-the-top thread started here by a COVID-phobe along the lines of "How DARE they have someone in my room and leave a virus-riddled bottle of wine?!" Or, "I don't drink and wish they had just taken $10 off my room rate." Or, "They left a cheap bottle of swill that I just dumped down the drain--don't they value my business enough to give me a better bottle than that?!"
And regarding free breakfasts, which I still can't wrap my head around why people care so much, some people here need to reevaluate how "elite", loyal, and important to a hotel's bottom line they really are if they're going to make stay decisions based off whether or not they get a free muffin and coffee in the morning. Hotels may be happy to shed such folks to other chains, even in a pandemic with occupancy levels so low.
On the other hand, I also feel that hotels should be rolling out the red carpet to ANY guests right now, and especially elite members of loyalty programs. As I've said in other threads, this crisis offers properties an opportunity to demonstrate their commitment to hospitality.
Flipping the coin again, though, hotels are really screwed here. A previous poster said it would be nice to come into their room and find a bottle of wine on ice. I agree, but I can just imagine the over-the-top thread started here by a COVID-phobe along the lines of "How DARE they have someone in my room and leave a virus-riddled bottle of wine?!" Or, "I don't drink and wish they had just taken $10 off my room rate." Or, "They left a cheap bottle of swill that I just dumped down the drain--don't they value my business enough to give me a better bottle than that?!"
And regarding free breakfasts, which I still can't wrap my head around why people care so much, some people here need to reevaluate how "elite", loyal, and important to a hotel's bottom line they really are if they're going to make stay decisions based off whether or not they get a free muffin and coffee in the morning. Hotels may be happy to shed such folks to other chains, even in a pandemic with occupancy levels so low.
#715
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,894
The way Marriott (and other brands) enforces these standards is through audits to ensure the local hotels are enforcing rules. Based on current trends, I would expect audits to be suspended through 1Q21 and potentially through June 2021.
#716
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,894
And the thing is, the average select service hotel is doing better (definitely in terms of occupancy, and even rate in many situations) than the average full service property.
#717
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,914
technically the lurker comments can be seen as an official publication, though many will disagree. One can also argue that the “what to expect” site slowing updating by property is an announcement until further notice. Let’s not kid ourselves, even if there is an official posting on Marriott website, no one here cares to hear why it’s implemented anyway. Vote with your wallet.
#718
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I've received only the continental breakfast (served in the restaurant) at many luxury properties in Europe, although it might be priced $35 or more per person. In places where the hotel restaurant only offers a buffet, you might get access to the entire buffet or they might specify only cold items or only items in a certain area of the buffet.
#720
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I found it for a hotel. It was on the hotel's own website homepage, on the second of two red banners across the top.
Information about the restaurant was good, but elite benefits were vague (lounge closed could mean executive lounge or the lobby lounge, grab and go breakfast for purchase didn't mention elites, Bonvoy benefits list was mobile check in/mobile request etc. with a line at the bottom stating "Available benefits vary by location and membership tier", which of course is completely uninformative.
Information about the restaurant was good, but elite benefits were vague (lounge closed could mean executive lounge or the lobby lounge, grab and go breakfast for purchase didn't mention elites, Bonvoy benefits list was mobile check in/mobile request etc. with a line at the bottom stating "Available benefits vary by location and membership tier", which of course is completely uninformative.