Refused Late Check-Out due to COVID (Experiences?)
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I'm saying some travelers have a positive attitude and are happy to pay $500 for the room they enjoy. But the few others take advantage of the pandemic situation and claimed the 2PM check-out is punishing the "elite" guest at the hotel. So they get the reason to complain and get all the points back.....
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Some common people keep a positive attitude. They can pay $500 for a nice room, enjoy the stay and appreciate the hotel staff for making the hotel available and safe during this difficult time.
But the few hotel "elite" members book on points and demand all the pre-pandemic elite (free) benefits. Then they spend all the negative energy to complain and demand concession. They go the distance from hotel to the hotel corporate. No matter how much time it takes, they won't stop until they get the concession they demand....
Just different kind of people.
But the few hotel "elite" members book on points and demand all the pre-pandemic elite (free) benefits. Then they spend all the negative energy to complain and demand concession. They go the distance from hotel to the hotel corporate. No matter how much time it takes, they won't stop until they get the concession they demand....
Just different kind of people.
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Initially refused 4 pm check-out at Essex House because "housekeeping is on a limited schedule." I replied (a) it's guaranteed, and (b) I'm willing to be flexible and move to another room (currently in a Junior Suite), but I need a room to work in. They agreed to move me to a base room next door.
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Initially refused 4 pm check-out at Essex House because "housekeeping is on a limited schedule." I replied (a) it's guaranteed, and (b) I'm willing to be flexible and move to another room (currently in a Junior Suite), but I need a room to work in. They agreed to move me to a base room next door.
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This too had been a problem long before COVID. I’m of the opinion that if you cannot guarantee 4pm checkout then don’t upgrade me to that room or give me that choice at check in whether I want to be upgraded with a standard checkout or stay in my booked room category until 4.
I'm not sure why this property is even bothering to stay open with all the limitations. Can't remember the last time I stayed somewhere you had to leave the hotel for coffee in the morning.
Update: Now I know why they're staying open . . . at check-out, FDA mentioned they're staying open because they have full time residents.
Last edited by Kacee; Jun 15, 2020 at 7:13 pm Reason: update
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This too had been a problem long before COVID. I’m of the opinion that if you cannot guarantee 4pm checkout then don’t upgrade me to that room or give me that choice at check in whether I want to be upgraded with a standard checkout or stay in my booked room category until 4.
Note that I consider it perfectly fair to give someone an upgrade to a specialty suite with the condition that a 4 pm checkout will/might not be possible--I've gladly taken that deal myself--but ordinary upgrades shouldn't require agreement not to claim other elite benefits. What if the hotel had said that you could get an upgraded room only if you agreed to forego breakfast or bonus points based on status?
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Please let's not give hotels another excuse to avoid granting elite upgrades which are a published benefit of the program.
Note that I consider it perfectly fair to give someone an upgrade to a specialty suite with the condition that a 4 pm checkout will/might not be possible--I've gladly taken that deal myself--but ordinary upgrades shouldn't require agreement not to claim other elite benefits. What if the hotel had said that you could get an upgraded room only if you agreed to forego breakfast or bonus points based on status?
Note that I consider it perfectly fair to give someone an upgrade to a specialty suite with the condition that a 4 pm checkout will/might not be possible--I've gladly taken that deal myself--but ordinary upgrades shouldn't require agreement not to claim other elite benefits. What if the hotel had said that you could get an upgraded room only if you agreed to forego breakfast or bonus points based on status?
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I didn’t stay at this hotel but a hotel I regularly frequent in a metro CA area which went from hundreds of guests (average day pre COVID-19) to just eight guests during my stay and they had no problem granting a 6PM late checkout. I’ve stayed several times during the pandemic.
I agree that there is no regulation preventing a late checkout.
I agree that there is no regulation preventing a late checkout.
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Please let's not give hotels another excuse to avoid granting elite upgrades which are a published benefit of the program.
Note that I consider it perfectly fair to give someone an upgrade to a specialty suite with the condition that a 4 pm checkout will/might not be possible--I've gladly taken that deal myself--but ordinary upgrades shouldn't require agreement not to claim other elite benefits. What if the hotel had said that you could get an upgraded room only if you agreed to forego breakfast or bonus points based on status?
Note that I consider it perfectly fair to give someone an upgrade to a specialty suite with the condition that a 4 pm checkout will/might not be possible--I've gladly taken that deal myself--but ordinary upgrades shouldn't require agreement not to claim other elite benefits. What if the hotel had said that you could get an upgraded room only if you agreed to forego breakfast or bonus points based on status?
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I recently stayed at the Fairfield Rehoboth Beach and was declined a 4pm due to COVID. Also no hot food was offered even togo. I wish that these hotels would communicate before I get to the front desk as the only reason I continue my business with Marriott are for the SNA and 4pm checkout. I am lifetime platinum and titanium elite with 120 nights and 7k spend. I have called the Marriott elite line only to be told the 4pm checkout is based upon availability which I pointed out at resorts and conference hotels. The agent said no, its always based on availability. I wonder how Amex FHR are handing their hotels as its in a contract? These hotels are definitely using COVID as an excuse to cut benefits and it seems Marriott doesn't care about loyal guest. I have had great experiences at the Sheraton Portland Airport which everything in the lounge is prepackaged and the Phoenician but I feel that some hotels are making COVID work for them.
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I'd contact Marriott/Bonvoy since you have written signed evidence that this property is refusing to even consider late checkouts for elites, although I don't expect them to do anything. You should also report the agent's abysmal lack of knowledge about the basics of the program.
OT but IME FHR is good at following up when a hotel tries to refuse to honor the program's T&C. I've never had an issue with a 4 pm checkout on a FHR reservation, which is why I often use FHR rather than Virtuoso or Hyatt Prive, etc.
OT but IME FHR is good at following up when a hotel tries to refuse to honor the program's T&C. I've never had an issue with a 4 pm checkout on a FHR reservation, which is why I often use FHR rather than Virtuoso or Hyatt Prive, etc.
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I'd contact Marriott/Bonvoy since you have written signed evidence that this property is refusing to even consider late checkouts for elites, although I don't expect them to do anything. You should also report the agent's abysmal lack of knowledge about the basics of the program.
OT but IME FHR is good at following up when a hotel tries to refuse to honor the program's T&C. I've never had an issue with a 4 pm checkout on a FHR reservation, which is why I often use FHR rather than Virtuoso or Hyatt Prive, etc.
OT but IME FHR is good at following up when a hotel tries to refuse to honor the program's T&C. I've never had an issue with a 4 pm checkout on a FHR reservation, which is why I often use FHR rather than Virtuoso or Hyatt Prive, etc.
Another property to add to the avoid list.
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Am I the only one who's disappointed that a GM of a hotel (even a FI) would issue a letter with so many typos and grammatical errors?
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