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Benefits of Earning Status This Year

Old May 15, 2020, 3:16 pm
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Hi there,

An “Eligible Status Year” is a calendar year during which a Member obtained Elite membership status (Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite) by achieving the Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite Minimum Requirement during such Eligible Status Year.
Only a calendar year in which a Member achieves Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite Status, as described in the prior sentence, will count as an Eligible Status Year, regardless of the length of time that such Member will retain the benefits of Elite membership Status.


Additional details can be found in our Terms and Conditions under "4.2.e" via this link: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/terms/default.mi

Should you have any other questions, please let us know.

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Old May 15, 2020, 5:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Marriott Bonvoy Lurker
Marriott Bonvoy Members who earned Elite Status in 2019 will receive the extension of Elite Status and Elite benefits through February 2022.
For Members who received the Elite Status extension, 2020 and 2021 will be considered an Eligible Status Year toward Lifetime Elite status.
Originally Posted by Marriott Bonvoy Lurker
An “Eligible Status Year” is a calendar year during which a Member obtained Elite membership status (Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite) by achieving the Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite Minimum Requirement during such Eligible Status Year.
Only a calendar year in which a Member achieves Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite Status, as described in the prior sentence, will count as an Eligible Status Year, regardless of the length of time that such Member will retain the benefits of Elite membership Status.
I may be being incredibly thick here but these two statements seem to contradict each other. Riley, I appreciate your involvement in providing a definitive answer to this question so please forgive me for labouring the point but the two sentences in statement (1) confirm that the Status Extension Year will count as an additional Lifetime Year even if the status is not earned in 2020 while the two sentences in statement (2) state that an Eligible Status Year (for 2020) is only achieved when the minimum requirement is met in that calendar year (ie 2020) regardless of the benefits being extended in 2020 and 2021.

As I say, I may be being thick and misreading these statements but I've read and re-read them a number of times and cannot determine how they can both be correct and applicable to the status extension scenario. Please confirm, will an elite member who achieved Platinum in 2019 and will now receive benefits in 2020 and 2021 via the Status Extension receive a qualifying lifetime year in 2020 even if they do not qualify as Platinum with 50 or more nights in 2020. Thanks.

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Old May 16, 2020, 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by ftrichard
I may be being incredibly thick here but these two statements seem to contradict each other. Riley, I appreciate your involvement in providing a definitive answer to this question so please forgive me for labouring the point but the two sentences in statement (1) confirm that the Status Extension Year will count as an additional Lifetime Year even if the status is not earned in 2020 while the two sentences in statement (2) state that an Eligible Status Year (for 2020) is only achieved when the minimum requirement is met in that calendar year (ie 2020) regardless of the benefits being extended in 2020 and 2021.

As I say, I may be being thick and misreading these statements but I've read and re-read them a number of times and cannot determine how they can both be correct and applicable to the status extension scenario. Please confirm, will an elite member who achieved Platinum in 2019 and will now receive benefits in 2020 and 2021 via the Status Extension receive a qualifying lifetime year in 2020 even if they do not qualify as Platinum with 50 or more nights in 2020. Thanks.
The two posts are Mutually exclusive. In other words, they cannot occur at the same time. Generally, as per the T&Cs, you must earn Elite status to earn a qualifying year of that status. However, the extension, as per the Lurker, supersedes the original T&C's so that your 2019 earned elite qualifying year will also be granted in 2020 regardless of nights accrued towards status.

You will be deemed to have earnd your status in 2020 which will carry your status & benefits through early 2022.

Lifetime Elite Status is composed of two components, qualifying years & minimum nights. If you earned Platinum in 2019, you will be Platinum in 2020 (organic) & 2021 (extension) and you will earn a Platinum Elite qualifying year in 2020. If however, you don't have any stays in 2020 you are prolonging the time to achieve the nights if you already have the years.

If you achieve Platinum at 50 nights, after 10 years you will have 500 nights & 10 years as Platinum Elite. You won't earn Lifetime Platinum until you stay another 100 nights. The benefit to continue staying at Marriott in 2020 is accelerating nights towards the night requirement of Lifetime Status, Choice Awards at the Platinum level and enjoying the benefits you already earned even if you organically earn an Elite qualifying year as a byproduct.

Of course, if you are long on nights and short on years you will most likely have a different perspective. It isn't a one-size-fits-all. Personally, I have 7 years as Gold or Platinum but still 39 nights short of 400 for LTG. I am at 6 years as Platinum and will be at 7 with the 2020 extension but still need ~60 nights per year in 2020, 2021, 2022 & 2023 to achieve LTP. If I don't have any additional stays in 2020 then I will not be able to meet both requirements for Lifetime Platinum Status in 2023. 60 nights annually isn't difficult for me and the 15 nights CC puts me at Titanium and a 40K FNA as a Choice Award. Between January 14th & March 4th I accrued 38 nights on $1,430 in spend; 18 nights redeemed,15 CC, 5 paid nights with some F&B.

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Old May 16, 2020, 3:16 am
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
The two posts are Mutually exclusive. In other words, they cannot occur at the same time. Generally, as per the T&Cs, you must earn Elite status to earn a qualifying year of that status. However, the extension, as per the Lurker, supersedes the original T&C's so that your 2019 earned elite qualifying year will also be granted in 2020 regardless of nights accrued towards status.SNIP
Right. Riley, Lurker, can you confirm that James's interpretation of your two mutually exclusive posts is indeed correct and the first supersedes the second and we will all qualify for an additional year towards lifetime status irrespective of actual qualification in 2020. Thanks. (Whether we also need more nights to get to 600 for Lifetime Platinum is also of course a consideration but not relevant to the qualifying year point.)
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Old May 16, 2020, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by Marriott Bonvoy Lurker
Hi there,

An “Eligible Status Year” is a calendar year during which a Member obtained Elite membership status (Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite) by achieving the Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite Minimum Requirement during such Eligible Status Year.
Only a calendar year in which a Member achieves Silver Elite, Gold Elite, Platinum Elite, Titanium Elite, or Ambassador Elite Status, as described in the prior sentence, will count as an Eligible Status Year, regardless of the length of time that such Member will retain the benefits of Elite membership Status.


Additional details can be found in our Terms and Conditions under "4.2.e" via this link: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/terms/default.mi

Should you have any other questions, please let us know.

Best regards,

Riley E.
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

[email protected]
Hi Riley and Lurker, I have Ambassador status (based on 2019 stays and spend) and also already lifetime platinum.

Due to COVID-19, my current status has been extended through Feb 2022.

What benefits will I get if I stay 100 nights and spend $20k this year (2020)? Since I'm already lifetime platinum (which is the highest level for lifetime since Marriott does not offer lifetime Titanium anymore), will Marriott recognize my 2020 $20k spend and 100 nights and extend my Ambassador status through Feb 2023?

Thank you.
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Old May 16, 2020, 9:06 am
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Only Delta among the major hotel/airline programs is doing something like that
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Old May 16, 2020, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
Only Delta among the major hotel/airline programs is doing something like that
Air Canada gives 1 banked year of Super Elite status for members that accrue 250k AQM.
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Old May 16, 2020, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by mileageking
Air Canada gives 1 banked year of Super Elite status for members that accrue 250k AQM.
Are you sure? I thought SE100K status was not available for the promotion. Source?
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Old May 16, 2020, 7:09 pm
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Originally Posted by lsquare
Are you sure? I thought SE100K status was not available for the promotion. Source?
Yes am sure. They had it for couple years and recently disappeared for few days but shows again. Click on 250k AQM in link.

https://altitude.aircanada.com/status/threshold-gifts#/
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Old May 16, 2020, 10:42 pm
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Originally Posted by mileageking
Hi Riley and Lurker, I have Ambassador status (based on 2019 stays and spend) and also already lifetime platinum.

Due to COVID-19, my current status has been extended through Feb 2022.

What benefits will I get if I stay 100 nights and spend $20k this year (2020)? Since I'm already lifetime platinum (which is the highest level for lifetime since Marriott does not offer lifetime Titanium anymore), will Marriott recognize my 2020 $20k spend and 100 nights and extend my Ambassador status through Feb 2023?

Thank you.
If you email Ambassador Service you’ll have an official answer you can hold them to if need be.
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Old May 17, 2020, 3:07 am
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Originally Posted by ftrichard
I may be being incredibly thick here but these two statements seem to contradict each other. Riley, I appreciate your involvement in providing a definitive answer to this question so please forgive me for labouring the point but the two sentences in statement (1) confirm that the Status Extension Year will count as an additional Lifetime Year even if the status is not earned in 2020 while the two sentences in statement (2) state that an Eligible Status Year (for 2020) is only achieved when the minimum requirement is met in that calendar year (ie 2020) regardless of the benefits being extended in 2020 and 2021.

As I say, I may be being thick and misreading these statements but I've read and re-read them a number of times and cannot determine how they can both be correct and applicable to the status extension scenario. Please confirm, will an elite member who achieved Platinum in 2019 and will now receive benefits in 2020 and 2021 via the Status Extension receive a qualifying lifetime year in 2020 even if they do not qualify as Platinum with 50 or more nights in 2020. Thanks.
lmao

Not at you... but at the confirmation of what I've been saying all along. T&Cs say one thing. "Spokespeople" say another thing. Now the spokesperson has contradicted him/herself within the space of a few hours.

Do the 50 nights to be sure. Rely on anybody else's word at your peril... (even though I think we'll get an extra Platinum year)
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Old May 17, 2020, 4:55 am
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Marriott is truly a communication disaster ....how hard is it to get a consistent message out to your Bonvoy members regarding such a straight forward issue as if the extended year counts toward LT year count or not ... or is it maybe the IT function incompetence that requires an ambiguous message , i.e. they cannot guarantee that all accounts get or does not get an additional LT year.so lets get a murky non-binding message out there and then they change "policy" 24h before 2020 turns into 2021....communication strategy from hell ...
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Old May 17, 2020, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by X-ON
Marriott is truly a communication disaster ....how hard is it to get a consistent message out to your Bonvoy members regarding such a straight forward issue as if the extended year counts toward LT year count or not ... or is it maybe the IT function incompetence that requires an ambiguous message , i.e. they cannot guarantee that all accounts get or does not get an additional LT year.so lets get a murky non-binding message out there and then they change "policy" 24h before 2020 turns into 2021....communication strategy from hell ...
The IT is def broken but people also misunderstand and get confused. I’ve realized the “lifetime year” increments at the point Marriott rolls over the status for the following year, whether by extension or earning it. Everyone who got the extension already has their 2020 lifetime status year. They will get one more for 2021, around Jan-March next year. No years in 2022 unless earned, or for folks getting extensions or soft landings then. But I guarantee we will have people in March 2022 complaining about not receiving their lifetime year even though they won’t have stayed enough.
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Old May 17, 2020, 7:45 am
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From my understanding is that, whatever the elite status is for the entire 2020, it will be extended for the entire 2021. So if you are Gold, you will be Gold to Feb-2022.

But if you advance to Platinum with the 2020 qualification, you'll stay Platinum to Feb-2022. I do not think there is anything to do with status with 2022 (to Feb-2023).

Some hotels and airlines offer reduced elite qualification requirements this year. So it is tempting for the folks who still have some travel, or want to do some cheap mattress runs to advance. But you really need to assess the amount of travel for next year to see if the elite status is worth the costs.
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Old May 17, 2020, 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by RedSun
But you really need to assess the amount of travel for next year to see if the elite status is worth the costs.
This thread is about the free year of Platinum counting towards the 10 years you need for Lifetime Platinum. No more no less...
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