Ideal Bonvoy status qualification for 2021
#151
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I am hoping Marriott follows United, Delta, Hyatt, and others in extended status. I suspect they will wait until the last minute, because it won't really affect our travel plans whether they do it today or 2 months from now (assuming people are still not travelling into the early summer).
Marriott have a couple of weeks at most, before it becomes obvious that they are actively trying to avoid doing the right thing, rather than just analysing the situation...
#152
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If they only do it 2 months from now, they will have permanently alienated anybody other than their "I stay at Marriott no matter what" members.
Marriott have a couple of weeks at most, before it becomes obvious that they are actively trying to avoid doing the right thing, rather than just analysing the situation...
Marriott have a couple of weeks at most, before it becomes obvious that they are actively trying to avoid doing the right thing, rather than just analysing the situation...
#153
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If they only do it 2 months from now, they will have permanently alienated anybody other than their "I stay at Marriott no matter what" members.
Marriott have a couple of weeks at most, before it becomes obvious that they are actively trying to avoid doing the right thing, rather than just analysing the situation...
Marriott have a couple of weeks at most, before it becomes obvious that they are actively trying to avoid doing the right thing, rather than just analysing the situation...
At some point, it just makes more sense for them to announce it soon and get it over with though. I assume they're getting calls from people asking if they'll extend like everyone else. Take the burden off their employees, make a decision and communicate it.
#154
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I’m expecting to resume travel by late May or early June. The death rate will still be high then but new infections should be lower. Hopefully they also offer lower threshold like United (or faster qualification promotions) by that point as extending 2020 status doesn’t work for some.
#155
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Basically I'd be expecting a fair treatment globally, or at least across non-US countries, which were also impacted by COVID19 and do not have option to get extra 30 nights by credit card spend/sign-up. As they gave extra 12 months to Greater China... then now that should apply globally. Or if they don't want to.. They could send message to all Greater China members that "Sorry, 12 months extension was a hoax, you need to requalify like everyone else."
#156
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Basically I'd be expecting a fair treatment globally, or at least across non-US countries, which were also impacted by COVID19 and do not have option to get extra 30 nights by credit card spend/sign-up. As they gave extra 12 months to Greater China... then now that should apply globally. Or if they don't want to.. They could send message to all Greater China members that "Sorry, 12 months extension was a hoax, you need to requalify like everyone else."
#157
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My approach with Marriott has moved into "wait and see". I'm inclined to move all my stays to Hyatt whenever possible. Frankly, Platinum hasn't meant anything since SPG ended anyways. If things change, I may come back. Otherwise, probably not. Hyatt has better properties, often better prices.
#158
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Given all that Marriott has already done to alienate members, I'm not sure delay in announcing the inevitable will have any additional material impact.
#159
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I don't think they have a choice now, Hyatt just copied Hilton in extending all status by a year which should put the pressure on a bit more.
I sure as hell am not about to start trying to re-earn Ambassador next year as a Gold / whatever I end up being if Marriott doesn't extend. Then again sometimes it feels a bit like Marriott would rather have a loyalty programme that is just a load of US credit card holders rather than people that actually stay in their hotels, so maybe that's what they want.
I sure as hell am not about to start trying to re-earn Ambassador next year as a Gold / whatever I end up being if Marriott doesn't extend. Then again sometimes it feels a bit like Marriott would rather have a loyalty programme that is just a load of US credit card holders rather than people that actually stay in their hotels, so maybe that's what they want.
#160
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But coming back to the topic and following the mantra that everything has already been said, but not by everyone :
How hard is it for Marriott to do the right thing here? If it was okay to extend the status in Greater China, why not do the obvious and extend status for the rest of the world as well?
#161
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Basically I'd be expecting a fair treatment globally, or at least across non-US countries, which were also impacted by COVID19 and do not have option to get extra 30 nights by credit card spend/sign-up. As they gave extra 12 months to Greater China... then now that should apply globally. Or if they don't want to.. They could send message to all Greater China members that "Sorry, 12 months extension was a hoax, you need to requalify like everyone else."
#162
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I think the issue is Marriott was originally working on a (typical, pretty short-sighted, slightly insular) assumption that this was a problem far away and wouldn't really affect the rest of their business materially. Therefore they obviously figured extending status for the relatively small number of status members in China was an easy decision and wouldn't affect the rest of the loyalty scheme much. Now they're faced with doing the same thing for all of Europe/Asia, or God forbid the US, it's a very different calculation. I have a feeling the management team in charge of Bonvoy wish they hadn't done this in China now.
#163
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#164
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Apparently they extended by 12 months, but choice benefits still need to be earned.
#165
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Fair enough.
The 50 and 75 nights choices can become the benefit for people who manage to travel during this period and reach those nights the hard way
so in 2021 member could theoretically have 20 SNA in their account
The 50 and 75 nights choices can become the benefit for people who manage to travel during this period and reach those nights the hard way
so in 2021 member could theoretically have 20 SNA in their account