Can you earn 30 elite night credits for Bonvoy from credit cards?
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Can you earn 30 elite night credits for Bonvoy from credit cards?
Can you earn 30 elite night credits for Bonvoy from credit cards?
I have a Chase business and AMEX personal card (converted from Starwood), and I only see the AMEX points post.
The Chase terms lead be to believe this is not possible.
However the Amex terms indicate as long as one is personal and one is business it is, and mentions multiple issuers issue eligible cards.
What gives?
Should I just cancel the Chase and open the AMEX personal card?
Chase:
8 15 Elite Night Credits: On or before March 1 of each calendar year, a maximum of 15 Elite Night credits will be credited to your Marriott Bonvoy member account operated by Marriott International, Inc. in accordance with Marriott Bonvoy terms and conditions. To be eligible to receive the 15 Elite Night credits with this Card, you must be the primary cardmember, your Card Account must be open as of December 31 of the prior year, and you must have an active Marriott Bonvoy member account linked to your credit card account. This benefit is not exclusive to credit cards offered by Chase. A maximum of 15 Elite Night credits will be awarded per Marriott Bonvoy program member account even if the member has more than one Credit Card linked to their Marriott Bonvoy account. When your Marriott Bonvoy member accounts are merged, if both accounts have received 15 Elite Night credits, only one 15 Elite Night Credit will remain. Separate promotional offers of Elite Night credits will not count towards this per-account maximum but may have their own limits, see promotional terms at time of offer. Chase is not responsible for offer fulfillment or the provision of or failure to provide the stated benefits and services.
Amex:
To be eligible to receive the 15 Elite Night Credits with this Card, you must be the Basic Card Member, and you must have an active Marriott Bonvoy Member Account linked to your Card Account. A maximum of 15 Elite Night Credits will be provided per Marriott Bonvoy Member Account, unless you have both a small business Marriott Bonvoy Card account and a consumer Marriott Bonvoy Card account; then, you may receive a combined maximum of 30 Elite Night Credits (15 per Card account). This benefit is not exclusive to Credit Cards offered by American Express.
I have a Chase business and AMEX personal card (converted from Starwood), and I only see the AMEX points post.
The Chase terms lead be to believe this is not possible.
However the Amex terms indicate as long as one is personal and one is business it is, and mentions multiple issuers issue eligible cards.
What gives?
Should I just cancel the Chase and open the AMEX personal card?
Chase:
8 15 Elite Night Credits: On or before March 1 of each calendar year, a maximum of 15 Elite Night credits will be credited to your Marriott Bonvoy member account operated by Marriott International, Inc. in accordance with Marriott Bonvoy terms and conditions. To be eligible to receive the 15 Elite Night credits with this Card, you must be the primary cardmember, your Card Account must be open as of December 31 of the prior year, and you must have an active Marriott Bonvoy member account linked to your credit card account. This benefit is not exclusive to credit cards offered by Chase. A maximum of 15 Elite Night credits will be awarded per Marriott Bonvoy program member account even if the member has more than one Credit Card linked to their Marriott Bonvoy account. When your Marriott Bonvoy member accounts are merged, if both accounts have received 15 Elite Night credits, only one 15 Elite Night Credit will remain. Separate promotional offers of Elite Night credits will not count towards this per-account maximum but may have their own limits, see promotional terms at time of offer. Chase is not responsible for offer fulfillment or the provision of or failure to provide the stated benefits and services.
Amex:
To be eligible to receive the 15 Elite Night Credits with this Card, you must be the Basic Card Member, and you must have an active Marriott Bonvoy Member Account linked to your Card Account. A maximum of 15 Elite Night Credits will be provided per Marriott Bonvoy Member Account, unless you have both a small business Marriott Bonvoy Card account and a consumer Marriott Bonvoy Card account; then, you may receive a combined maximum of 30 Elite Night Credits (15 per Card account). This benefit is not exclusive to Credit Cards offered by American Express.
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This is very interesting. I don't know how I've never seen this mentioned before. Technically, the previous paragraph explicitly denies that this is allowed
FWIW I have the Bonvoy Business and Bonvoy Brilliant from AMEX and I only got 15 EQN. However, I went to the current T&Cs for the AMEX cards and both do indeed have the exact language you posted here
Marriott Bonvoy Lurker can you elaborate on this huge contradiction in the T&Cs?
A maximum of 15 Elite Night credits will be awarded per Marriott Bonvoy program member account even if the member has more than one Credit Card linked to their Marriott Bonvoy account.
FWIW I have the Bonvoy Business and Bonvoy Brilliant from AMEX and I only got 15 EQN. However, I went to the current T&Cs for the AMEX cards and both do indeed have the exact language you posted here
Marriott Bonvoy Lurker can you elaborate on this huge contradiction in the T&Cs?
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15 maximum which frankly I think is overly generous. Only takes 35 nights in a bed to qualify for platinum which essentially is the same as titanium and ambassador level.
Too many elites on properties
Too many elites on properties
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I have the AMEX small biz card and the consumer card, as well as a chase Ritz. Ive only received 15 nights the last two years.
I assume this is an oversight and that Marriott will have AMEX update the T&C rather than give a loophole to get 30 nights.
That being said, I will be emailing my ambassador about this!
I assume this is an oversight and that Marriott will have AMEX update the T&C rather than give a loophole to get 30 nights.
That being said, I will be emailing my ambassador about this!
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My last upgrade offer was for 10 extra Elite nights. (25 total this year)
Here is my upgrade offer:
Not biting but still afraid the writing is on the wall for this card. They already ended the benefit on the Legacy Biz card.
Note the language on the statements. In 2018 (when I got the card) it specifically referenced the Elite night per $3000 spend. Versus now- when that benefit is no longer listed. I am afraid it is just a matter of time. ☹️
Last edited by damon88; Feb 22, 2020 at 1:52 pm
#12
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I've had both personal and business cards from both Amex (former SPG) and Chase (Marriott) for years. In 2018, just like the years before that, I received all 4 EQN bonuses. 2x5 nights from the SPG Amex cards and 2x15 from the two Chase Marriott cards. Last year, I only received one set of 15 nights. I'm fine with that, the only thing I'm not happy about is the removal of rollover.
Last edited by Ripley62; Feb 22, 2020 at 8:52 pm
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Based on what Im reading in the first post, if I get a Marriott card this year, I wont get 15 nights until the next year? Is that true for both Amex and Chase?
Nvm, thats a yes within 60 days. Google answered my question but leaving here in case others see it.
Nvm, thats a yes within 60 days. Google answered my question but leaving here in case others see it.
Last edited by Lookoutitzsean; Feb 22, 2020 at 10:26 pm
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