Best elite options in Phuket or Bangkok?
#16
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I rarely like to hangout in lounges but Westin is an exception as their elite happy hour can be had at the lobby bar (lobby is a few levels up) and it has a nice outdoor balcony seating area with a view of the busy Sukhumvit street facing SGS
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Thanks all, this is has been really helpful so far! I won't be traveling with children, so definitely no concern from me on that part, but appreciated to have a better sense of the areas - this will be my first time in Bangkok.
Any advice on Phuket? I haven't seen any properties that look particularly compelling to me - I need to be there for a work event for 3 days, considering skipping spending any additional time though and just going to Bangkok for longer.
Any advice on Phuket? I haven't seen any properties that look particularly compelling to me - I need to be there for a work event for 3 days, considering skipping spending any additional time though and just going to Bangkok for longer.
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Thanks all, this is has been really helpful so far! I won't be traveling with children, so definitely no concern from me on that part, but appreciated to have a better sense of the areas - this will be my first time in Bangkok.
Any advice on Phuket? I haven't seen any properties that look particularly compelling to me - I need to be there for a work event for 3 days, considering skipping spending any additional time though and just going to Bangkok for longer.
Any advice on Phuket? I haven't seen any properties that look particularly compelling to me - I need to be there for a work event for 3 days, considering skipping spending any additional time though and just going to Bangkok for longer.
I’m not a huge Phuket fan in general and certainly not for any of the big chain hotels. The real attraction of Phuket (assuming you’re not into the aforementioned oldest trade) are the higher end resorts which are relatively good value in Phuket (e.g. Trisara). Obviously what Bangkok can’t get you is time on a beach.
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No sleaze? What are people smoking? I have no problem with BKK's nightlife and it certainly is not dangerous but if you don't want your kids seeing teenage hookers with usually much older men, you don't want to stay at Westin, SGS or JW where Street hookers are everywhere. I've stayed at the fat two with kids in tow & the kids were oblivious.
But if you don't want your kids to see that, then stay away from the areas the person outlined above. Patpong is a little hidden from LM but not really
But if you don't want your kids to see that, then stay away from the areas the person outlined above. Patpong is a little hidden from LM but not really
Nonsense? I think the nonsense is that kids can't tell a streethooker dolled up & standing on a street corner saying hi to every white man or Japanese/Korean dude that walks by from normal conservatively dressed Thai females.
I'm not sure where you live but seeing women and ladyboys in tight dresses with breast popping out and painted with massive amounts of make-up is not a normal sight for most kids.
If you don't want your kids to see that, then tourists shouldn't stay in those areas. And you are doing a disservice to the more conservative members here who might prefer Mandarin or Peninsula over a Marriott because one doesn't have hookers everywhere.
But JW, SGS, Westin it is impossible to shield
I'm not sure where you live but seeing women and ladyboys in tight dresses with breast popping out and painted with massive amounts of make-up is not a normal sight for most kids.
If you don't want your kids to see that, then tourists shouldn't stay in those areas. And you are doing a disservice to the more conservative members here who might prefer Mandarin or Peninsula over a Marriott because one doesn't have hookers everywhere.
But JW, SGS, Westin it is impossible to shield
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If you are going to spend more time in Bangkok, you might split your time between the river (MO, Pen, Shangri-La) and either Ratchaprasong or Sukhumvit.
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I can only speak for BKK but for my stays I've only really done Athenee Hotel - Luxury Collection and it was a fantastic stay (multiple stays for more than 3/4 nights):
- I loved the location its close station (Phloen Chit - 5 minutes walk) and its a quiet area
- The lounge is fantastic and extensive (with a great breakfast option as well as a bar - for coffee/drinks)
- Breakfast downstairs was great - multiple cuisine (e.g. Thai/Japanese/Chinese/Indian/Western)
- Probably the only hotel where my YOUR24 request is almost always (~90%) guaranteed/upheld (even with a suite upgrade)
- Upgraded very frequently and even given drink coupons/vouchers
#23
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I can’t speak as Bangkok expert, well 15 years ago maybe when work brought me there a number of times a year for weeks at a time I might have been but n longer.
I just spent, with my wife who'd never been to Asia, 7 nights at the SGS. It’s a superbly run hotel in a great location. Being directly connected to the BTS/ Skytrain at the lobby level which also mean being connected to the Terminal 21 mall and easy access to the Siam Square/ Siam Paragon/Siam center/ MBK is A huge plus. Also from terminal 21 side of Sukhumvit is a MRT/Subway stop with one change you’re at the new MRT stops near the Wat Pho and the Grand Palace. The Westin has similar access it’s just from ground level.
the free happy hour elite drinks in the SGS living room easily equal have a lounge. It’s also fresh squeezed juices and non- alcoholic drinks all day. The happy hour free drinks at the ground level restaurant also. The breakfast buffet in the Lobby level restaurant had a very wide selection plus you have the choice of an ordering breakfast in the Italian restaurant. The SGS doesn’t have the full food option of a lounge in the evening but this being Bangkok finding a good inexpensive meal is far from difficult.
getting upgraded to a suite might be more difficult at the SGS but the standard rooms are quite comfortable and as an elite you should get a butter room one the top few floors.
as far the professional women at SGS. Sure there were some older men with over dressed bored looking Thai women, none that appears to me to as young as working girls that I use to see at the JW back in the day. I was stunned every time we passed the changes in the Nana area the change in the area. I assume Nana Plaza is still tucked back in its soi but the area is remarkably different. The most working girls I saw were ones shopping at the basement level of the Terminal 21 mall.
I just spent, with my wife who'd never been to Asia, 7 nights at the SGS. It’s a superbly run hotel in a great location. Being directly connected to the BTS/ Skytrain at the lobby level which also mean being connected to the Terminal 21 mall and easy access to the Siam Square/ Siam Paragon/Siam center/ MBK is A huge plus. Also from terminal 21 side of Sukhumvit is a MRT/Subway stop with one change you’re at the new MRT stops near the Wat Pho and the Grand Palace. The Westin has similar access it’s just from ground level.
the free happy hour elite drinks in the SGS living room easily equal have a lounge. It’s also fresh squeezed juices and non- alcoholic drinks all day. The happy hour free drinks at the ground level restaurant also. The breakfast buffet in the Lobby level restaurant had a very wide selection plus you have the choice of an ordering breakfast in the Italian restaurant. The SGS doesn’t have the full food option of a lounge in the evening but this being Bangkok finding a good inexpensive meal is far from difficult.
getting upgraded to a suite might be more difficult at the SGS but the standard rooms are quite comfortable and as an elite you should get a butter room one the top few floors.
as far the professional women at SGS. Sure there were some older men with over dressed bored looking Thai women, none that appears to me to as young as working girls that I use to see at the JW back in the day. I was stunned every time we passed the changes in the Nana area the change in the area. I assume Nana Plaza is still tucked back in its soi but the area is remarkably different. The most working girls I saw were ones shopping at the basement level of the Terminal 21 mall.
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Edit: Forgot if you like just a bit of spice (full spice is crazy hot) when ordering som tom at many places you can say Mai sai Phed (no spice) it will still be spicy hot from the residual in the mixing vessel..
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#25
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OP didn't mention this, and I have not been here yet, but would the Le Meridien Chiang Mai be an interesting alternative? I have read that you could walk out the door and be in the old walled city in minutes, which would hit one of OPs points of being able to walk places... It wouldn't be a beach, but a different feel from Bangkok with a night market right there also.
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Thanks all, this is has been really helpful so far! I won't be traveling with children, so definitely no concern from me on that part, but appreciated to have a better sense of the areas - this will be my first time in Bangkok.
Any advice on Phuket? I haven't seen any properties that look particularly compelling to me - I need to be there for a work event for 3 days, considering skipping spending any additional time though and just going to Bangkok for longer.
Any advice on Phuket? I haven't seen any properties that look particularly compelling to me - I need to be there for a work event for 3 days, considering skipping spending any additional time though and just going to Bangkok for longer.
As for the Phuket hotels, I would have to agree with other comments and say none of the ones I have stayed in are particularly memorable. However, I wouldn’t skip the place entirely to extend my time in Bangkok.
What time of year will you be there? This is significant in terms of both weather and smog!
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Lots of good hotels recommended, but wanted to point out that the OP didn't mention when she'd be in Bangkok, and also mentioned that she didn't mind walking everywhere. These are actually pretty important points for first time visitors.
OP - I'm a big walker as well. It's not uncommon for me to walk 5-10 miles in a day checking out a European city that's new to me. Bangkok is different. It's huge. Nothing is as close as it looks on a map. It's hot and humid. And it can be rainy depending on when you're going...and not a rain you want to walk too far in. I find myself taking public transportation regularly there.
While I think you'll probably be happy in any of the Bangkok Marriotts, I'd strongly suggest you stay near a BTS station (the skytrain). You can still walk if it's a nice day or you feel like it, but I think you'll appreciate having it at least a couple times during your stay. Really, any station is fine. The Renaissance, for example, is as close to a station as you can get. But preferably you'd be within a 5 to 10 minute walk. I've only stayed at 3 properties there, so I won't direct you toward a specific hotel. But worth considering as you look at hotels.
OP - I'm a big walker as well. It's not uncommon for me to walk 5-10 miles in a day checking out a European city that's new to me. Bangkok is different. It's huge. Nothing is as close as it looks on a map. It's hot and humid. And it can be rainy depending on when you're going...and not a rain you want to walk too far in. I find myself taking public transportation regularly there.
While I think you'll probably be happy in any of the Bangkok Marriotts, I'd strongly suggest you stay near a BTS station (the skytrain). You can still walk if it's a nice day or you feel like it, but I think you'll appreciate having it at least a couple times during your stay. Really, any station is fine. The Renaissance, for example, is as close to a station as you can get. But preferably you'd be within a 5 to 10 minute walk. I've only stayed at 3 properties there, so I won't direct you toward a specific hotel. But worth considering as you look at hotels.
#28
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Was in Phuket back in 2016 -- we stayed at the Renaissance and like it quite a bit.
Back then Plat was highest and my award stay was upgraded to the pool villa suite which made for a nice 5 day stay with my now wife. No lounge but they did have a free alcoholic drink of the night every night at lobby bar and back then they offered 20% off F&B (and the F&B prices were pretty reasonable for a resort).
You could also walk or take a bike down to the little village that's closer to the JW and Marriott Vacation properties (though it was only good for buying a 6 pack of beer and diet coke for drinking in our pool).
Beach was nice (same stretch of beach as the JW, just down the road) and property was pretty empty (this was March) so it was a nice stay overall.
Haven't been back so can't comment on the other Marriott properties in Phuket
Back then Plat was highest and my award stay was upgraded to the pool villa suite which made for a nice 5 day stay with my now wife. No lounge but they did have a free alcoholic drink of the night every night at lobby bar and back then they offered 20% off F&B (and the F&B prices were pretty reasonable for a resort).
You could also walk or take a bike down to the little village that's closer to the JW and Marriott Vacation properties (though it was only good for buying a 6 pack of beer and diet coke for drinking in our pool).
Beach was nice (same stretch of beach as the JW, just down the road) and property was pretty empty (this was March) so it was a nice stay overall.
Haven't been back so can't comment on the other Marriott properties in Phuket
#29
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Was in Phuket back in 2016 -- we stayed at the Renaissance and like it quite a bit.
Back then Plat was highest and my award stay was upgraded to the pool villa suite which made for a nice 5 day stay with my now wife. No lounge but they did have a free alcoholic drink of the night every night at lobby bar and back then they offered 20% off F&B (and the F&B prices were pretty reasonable for a resort).
You could also walk or take a bike down to the little village that's closer to the JW and Marriott Vacation properties (though it was only good for buying a 6 pack of beer and diet coke for drinking in our pool).
Beach was nice (same stretch of beach as the JW, just down the road) and property was pretty empty (this was March) so it was a nice stay overall.
Haven't been back so can't comment on the other Marriott properties in Phuket
Back then Plat was highest and my award stay was upgraded to the pool villa suite which made for a nice 5 day stay with my now wife. No lounge but they did have a free alcoholic drink of the night every night at lobby bar and back then they offered 20% off F&B (and the F&B prices were pretty reasonable for a resort).
You could also walk or take a bike down to the little village that's closer to the JW and Marriott Vacation properties (though it was only good for buying a 6 pack of beer and diet coke for drinking in our pool).
Beach was nice (same stretch of beach as the JW, just down the road) and property was pretty empty (this was March) so it was a nice stay overall.
Haven't been back so can't comment on the other Marriott properties in Phuket
My personal positives of the renaissance-
Nice Beach and plenty of sun loungers spread out.
One of the best breakfast spreads I have encountered on Phuket.
The best hotel gym I have used possibly anywhere - I would be happy to pay a membership back home to use it.
Nice restaurant - Takieng
Nice option of walking into the little village for cheap local food (there is a bus service also)
Negatives -
Pool is too small for the size of the hotel (not relevant for OP).
Fairly limited upgrade options.
Most rooms have a view of the 'garden'.
#30
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I'll be going end of January - early February - soon!
For Bangkok I'm mostly narrowed down to Athenee or SGS as the best well rounded experience (good morning and evening food & drink options, modern, but low suite upgrade chances), or St. Regis if I want to focus on service, best chance of suite upgrade, and excellent spa. I've heard people mention that there is no mango at Athenee - any chance you've noticed if that is/isn't the case?
For Phuket, I think I'm mostly looking at Marriott Nai Yang (generally gets decent reviews, looks modern enough, breakfast buffet looks great with fresh mango, but beach recedes away and that makes people grumpy?), Naka Phuket (kinda beautiful, lovely villas, but likely not really what I'm looking for ...), or Renaissance (fairly well rounded, again great breakfast with mango and ice cream, fitness center looks amazing, free bikes to get around, but hard product slightly less good than others I'm looking at ). You mentioned staying at Marriott Nai Yang Beach before - I thought I saw something about an elite cocktail hour, but now I can't find that. Do you recall anything like that?
For Bangkok I'm mostly narrowed down to Athenee or SGS as the best well rounded experience (good morning and evening food & drink options, modern, but low suite upgrade chances), or St. Regis if I want to focus on service, best chance of suite upgrade, and excellent spa. I've heard people mention that there is no mango at Athenee - any chance you've noticed if that is/isn't the case?
For Phuket, I think I'm mostly looking at Marriott Nai Yang (generally gets decent reviews, looks modern enough, breakfast buffet looks great with fresh mango, but beach recedes away and that makes people grumpy?), Naka Phuket (kinda beautiful, lovely villas, but likely not really what I'm looking for ...), or Renaissance (fairly well rounded, again great breakfast with mango and ice cream, fitness center looks amazing, free bikes to get around, but hard product slightly less good than others I'm looking at ). You mentioned staying at Marriott Nai Yang Beach before - I thought I saw something about an elite cocktail hour, but now I can't find that. Do you recall anything like that?