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Bad incident related to removal of single use toiletries

Old Oct 3, 19, 2:51 pm
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Maybe a dumb question, but how exactly are the big bottles tamper proof?
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Old Oct 3, 19, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by seanp7 View Post
Semen is speculation. Without meaning to be graphic or gross, lots of soaps/conditioners can look like that - so it's going to be hard to tell when this happens.

5000 points seems fine, as you complained and got a replacement bottle.

I'm with everyone else on the tamper-proof requirements, of course.
Indeed, in my line of work we have to simulate semen from time to time (donít ask) and we use shampoo. Head and shoulders seems to be the most realistic looking, apparently
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Old Oct 3, 19, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by nancypants View Post
Indeed, in my line of work we have to simulate semen from time to time (donít ask) and we use shampoo. Head and shoulders seems to be the most realistic looking, apparently
OMG How can we NOT ask?!
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Old Oct 3, 19, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by bitterproffit View Post
The single use toiletries were NEVER tamper proof.

Speaking of proof, this is a second hand story with a pic of a missing bottle.
Most little bottles I've seen had a little paper tab that indicates the bottle has been opened.
But I always carry a bar of travel soap - I don't much like shower gel - and my own preferred shampoo and conditioner in my toilet kit. If the place I'm staying has stuff I like, I'll use theirs, otherwise I'm covered.
Btw, on threads like this, I can see nothing more useless than calling "fake" on the OP that's the basis of the discussion and sharing of our various views. You don't know that, and if you feel like that, why bother contributing at all? And how does it add anything to a discussion of whether bulk toiletries are a good or bad thing? And in the end, in terms of subsequent contributions of other's views, how does it matter whether it's true or not?
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Old Oct 3, 19, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by bitterproffit View Post
Why do you assume fresh toiletries are always supplied in the room changeover. If I don't use the conditioner, is it changed? If I only use the lotion once and put it back in its place, is it automatically replaced. Do they just throw all the toiletries out after every stay whether you use them or not?

I have no hair, so if they throw out the unopened shampoo and conditioner after every stay, what a phenomenal waste.

Lets use logic.

The single use toiletries were NEVER tamper proof.

The large sized toiletries are ALWAYS tamper proof.

How does it stand to reason that suddenly now that they are tamper proof, they are going to be more messed with?
Tamper Proof?



I give the people at Def Con 30 seconds to open and contaminate allegedly tamper proof hotel containers.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by OUTraveling View Post
Tamper Proof?



I give the people at Def Con 30 seconds to open and contaminate allegedly tamper proof hotel containers.
I don't know who def con people are, but I didn't say they wouldn't be able to open the containers. That's a silly assumption.

Like the container in the 'story' that was originally posted, it was obvious it was tampered with. That's the point. Not that, if someone really really wanted to 'contaminate' the containers, they couldn't figure it out.

And no, the single use toiletries don't have 'tamper evident' paper tabs on them. Only the mouthwash.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by bitterproffit View Post

And no, the single use toiletries don't have 'tamper evident' paper tabs on them. Only the mouthwash.
My mistake, The seals are mostly plastic, not paper.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 4:48 pm
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As usual, much angst on this topic. I donít like the pump bottles shown in this example; they are similar to the ones offered in many airport lounges; the pump mechanisms fail, itís necessary to pump many times to get a decent squirt of product, the angle of them can be difficult. On the other hand, Iíve had no difficulty at all with the ones commonly seen in Aloft: a wall-mounted receptacle, emptying from the bottom, fully lockable.
People like the miniatures because theyíve been around forever and change is not welcomed. But thereís no avoiding this change: get used to it, itís here to stay.
On the positive side, the risk of being allocated a room immediately after someone sufficiently psychotic to have tampered with them ( mini or bulk) is infinitesimally small: maybe around the same as getting room service delivered by a serial killer.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 5:40 pm
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A bottle of semen in the hotel bathroom? Some of us would consider that top notch customer service and compliment the hotel. #justsayin
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Old Oct 3, 19, 5:52 pm
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OK.

Here's what I want to know.

The OP says the "soap" was used for several days.

So you mean to tell me the person spread water laced with semen on his/her body for several days, and didn't notice? Come on. The fact that it didn't lather up didn't alarm anyone? The fact that the secure fastener was broken didn't alarm anyone? Or are you saying that partway through the stay, the contents of the soap bottle were changed and the fastener broken?

I'm calling shenanigans on this story.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by hotturnip View Post

I'm calling shenanigans on this story.
But do you prefer bulk toiletries or personal size?
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Old Oct 3, 19, 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun View Post
I think the big thing here is the lack of tamper proof bracket and it should be policy that they brackets have to be in place otherwise housekeeping should not be allowed to clear the room as being fit for guests.

I would never personally use a bottle that was not fitted into a tamper proof setting as its to open to contamination. In regards the issues on this occasion and the possible contents I think I shall leave others to comment as it is pure speculation as to what was in the bottle or if it simply had been watered down and the getl reacted to this or a previous guest had indeed done something with it.

Points award should not have been mode so quickly, they should have suggested carrying out a full examination and speak to housekeeping to establish the procedures or lack of them and then the Hotel Manager should speak to the guest and make appropriate recompense. Not sure handing over the bottle without a sample is a wise move however.
You all do realize that the people who have access to your room also have ability to undo the tamper proof barrier for point of refilling.

Some soap does look like semen. I find it really had to believe that someone would put semen in a soap bottle. Report back when you have genetic evidence.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by nancypants View Post
Indeed, in my line of work we have to simulate semen from time to time (donít ask) and we use shampoo. Head and shoulders seems to be the most realistic looking, apparently
Actually the single use shampoo found in lower end Marriott family hotels (i.e. Fairfield) looks like semen.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 7:29 pm
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Whether the story is accurate or not, it is certainly possible. I've grown tired of worrying about it. I bought a bunch of minis and carry one with me at all times. If I encounter a wall dispenser or unsealed mini I can use mine and toss it. I just grab another one when I get home. Worst case, it's a couple hundred dollars a year but worth it to not have to worry about contamination.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 8:05 pm
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And this is exactly why I will request new bottles of all toiletries at any property I stay at with this kind of dispenser. I will not use a bottle that has been in the possession of other guests whether it looks like it has been tampered with or not.
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