May 31, 2020, 11:57 pm
Last edit by: SPN Lifer
What kind of bath amenities are currently offered by each brand:
List up information on the various hotel chains, so that people can see which ones has already moved to the new policy, and which are still based on the old.
Bulk dispensers (wall mounted or otherwise):
aLoft
element by Westin
Four Points, US (unsure, other areas) (Dec 2020)
Moxy
Residence Inn (Dec 2019)
Single use bottles:
Courtyard (Dec 2020)
Renaissance (Dec 2019)
Ritz Carlton
St. Regis
Westin (Dec 2020)
Mixed, depends on the property:
List up information on the various hotel chains, so that people can see which ones has already moved to the new policy, and which are still based on the old.
Bulk dispensers (wall mounted or otherwise):
aLoft
element by Westin
Four Points, US (unsure, other areas) (Dec 2020)
Moxy
Residence Inn (Dec 2019)
Single use bottles:
Courtyard (Dec 2020)
Renaissance (Dec 2019)
Ritz Carlton
St. Regis
Westin (Dec 2020)
Mixed, depends on the property:
Marriott to Eliminate Single-use Toiletry Bottles
Jun 2, 2021, 12:56 pm
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Jun 2, 2021, 3:56 pm
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High consumer demand for Bonv°y bulk shower products? 😮
Consumables are included in the rate
Many guests bring home pens, notepads, coffee bags, popcorn, teabags, and single-use toiletry bottles. Some even bring home toilet paper and tissues.
If someone chooses to forego use of hair conditioner, there is nothing wrong with taking home a reasonable amount (that could have been taken used by a spouse or child during that stay).
However, if too many guests begin draining an excessive amount, this could provide an economic incentive to return to single-use toiletry bottles.
Many guests bring home pens, notepads, coffee bags, popcorn, teabags, and single-use toiletry bottles. Some even bring home toilet paper and tissues.
If someone chooses to forego use of hair conditioner, there is nothing wrong with taking home a reasonable amount (that could have been taken used by a spouse or child during that stay).
However, if too many guests begin draining an excessive amount, this could provide an economic incentive to return to single-use toiletry bottles.
This would be a positive. It would backfire the cost cutting move.
Also not a lot of ways to meter how much a given guest is using.
But a wasteful guest could also ask for "lots of extras" of the single use bottles. Would a hotel deny excessive requests? How do you define excessive shampoo use for a young hairy family of 4 who uses the pool (meaning, multiple showers each in a day) vs. a single bald business traveler who does not use the pool and only takes one shower in a day.
Also not a lot of ways to meter how much a given guest is using.
But a wasteful guest could also ask for "lots of extras" of the single use bottles. Would a hotel deny excessive requests? How do you define excessive shampoo use for a young hairy family of 4 who uses the pool (meaning, multiple showers each in a day) vs. a single bald business traveler who does not use the pool and only takes one shower in a day.
If one forgets to bring more substantial containers, zip-lock plastic bags will suffice to bring home reasonable quantities of shower gel, shampoo, and conditioner to make up for the multiple bathing sessions foregone due to full schedules.
If Marriott did not want us to bring home greater amounts of consumables, they would not have provided them.
Bonv°y!
If Marriott did not want us to bring home greater amounts of consumables, they would not have provided them.
Bonv°y!
I remember a thread a few years ago talking about Marriott removing the single use plastic toiletry bottles from their hotel chains. I can't find it through search on the forums but Google tells me they were supposed to have all of them removed by/in 2020.
I just stayed at 5 different hotels throughout the middle of the US (Fairfield, SpringHill, Marriott, TownePlace). Three of the properties were brand new, one was old (FS Marriott, of course) and one was maybe 2-4 years old. Not a single one of these properties has the "large" bottles of shampoo/conditioner/body wash in the shower; they all have single, individual use plastic toiletry bottles.
What gives?
-RM
I just stayed at 5 different hotels throughout the middle of the US (Fairfield, SpringHill, Marriott, TownePlace). Three of the properties were brand new, one was old (FS Marriott, of course) and one was maybe 2-4 years old. Not a single one of these properties has the "large" bottles of shampoo/conditioner/body wash in the shower; they all have single, individual use plastic toiletry bottles.
What gives?
-RM
Beaucoup Bonv°y!
Jun 2, 2021, 5:49 pm
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I just stayed at 5 different hotels throughout the middle of the US (Fairfield, SpringHill, Marriott, TownePlace). Three of the properties were brand new, one was old (FS Marriott, of course) and one was maybe 2-4 years old. Not a single one of these properties has the "large" bottles of shampoo/conditioner/body wash in the shower; they all have single, individual use plastic toiletry bottles.
Jun 2, 2021, 5:53 pm
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I have one recent data point. CY Tysons Mclean, VA has single use bottles. This is an older CY property. Need more data points before drawing a conclusion on if Marriott has reversed the policy. I was not a fan of the large shared bottles. While it most likely is more ecologically sound to have the large bottles, I didn't have enough faith in my fellow guests and housekeeping that they would truly be kept sanitary. YMMV...
--Jon
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Jun 2, 2021, 8:03 pm
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Stayed at 9 properties in 3 countries in 2021. So far, all of them have used small toiletries. Have a long-term stay going on perpetually in the background in the US and they seem to restock the small toiletries whenever housekeeping is done.
I have stays at 3 different properties in the next 2 weeks and will update on the status of toiletries IF they do switch to large containers. Frankly, I find it unlikely they will.
I have stays at 3 different properties in the next 2 weeks and will update on the status of toiletries IF they do switch to large containers. Frankly, I find it unlikely they will.
Apr 27, 2022, 7:50 pm
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I much prefer the individual-sized toiletry containers. See also
Marriott mandating toiletry dispensers in some hotels (January 2018)
Bad incident related to removal of single use toiletries (October 2019)
Yet looking on the bright side, as I am wont to do, since the introduction of Marriott Bonv°y bulk toiletry dispensers several years ago, my wife and I have not had to spend a penny elsewhere for shampoo or conditioner. (!)
Thank you, Marriott.
Beaucoup Bonv°y!
Marriott mandating toiletry dispensers in some hotels (January 2018)
Bad incident related to removal of single use toiletries (October 2019)
Yet looking on the bright side, as I am wont to do, since the introduction of Marriott Bonv°y bulk toiletry dispensers several years ago, my wife and I have not had to spend a penny elsewhere for shampoo or conditioner. (!)
Thank you, Marriott.
Beaucoup Bonv°y!
Jun 24, 2022, 10:17 am
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slightly tangential, but a big “thumbs down” to the branding/design team of twits at North 39
I fully understand having the brand name in large type on the container, and the individual product in smaller type, but who in their right mind approved the same color scheme for all three products (shampoo, conditioner, and hand and body wash L-R respectively)?
moreover, why did they choose a font color with such low contrast from the container background?
Residence Inn La Quinta (Palm Springs / Indio CA)
I fully understand having the brand name in large type on the container, and the individual product in smaller type, but who in their right mind approved the same color scheme for all three products (shampoo, conditioner, and hand and body wash L-R respectively)?
moreover, why did they choose a font color with such low contrast from the container background?
Residence Inn La Quinta (Palm Springs / Indio CA)
Jun 24, 2022, 1:15 pm
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Single use available at the Marriott Waikiki recently. I am on the shelf about the single use vs mounted because for me, I want to be certain the mounted units are absolutely tamper proof, and hygienic standards are followed, i.e. the large bottles are replaced, not refilled. I would take a wall mounted collection of higher-end product over cheap crap in single use bottles.
Jun 24, 2022, 3:45 pm
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slightly tangential, but a big “thumbs down” to the branding/design team of twits at North 39
I fully understand having the brand name in large type on the container, and the individual product in smaller type, but who in their right mind approved the same color scheme for all three products (shampoo, conditioner, and hand and body wash L-R respectively)?
moreover, why did they choose a font color with such low contrast from the container background?
Residence Inn La Quinta (Palm Springs / Indio CA)
I fully understand having the brand name in large type on the container, and the individual product in smaller type, but who in their right mind approved the same color scheme for all three products (shampoo, conditioner, and hand and body wash L-R respectively)?
moreover, why did they choose a font color with such low contrast from the container background?
Residence Inn La Quinta (Palm Springs / Indio CA)
And leads to things such as I had this week, with 2 shampoo bottles and no body wash. Not discovered until I was in the shower in the morning.
So now I will add a check of these to my standard "make sure I don't have all decaf coffee" check when I arrive in the room.
Jun 24, 2022, 6:18 pm
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slightly tangential, but a big “thumbs down” to the branding/design team of twits at North 39
I fully understand having the brand name in large type on the container, and the individual product in smaller type, but who in their right mind approved the same color scheme for all three products (shampoo, conditioner, and hand and body wash L-R respectively)?
moreover, why did they choose a font color with such low contrast from the container background?
Residence Inn La Quinta (Palm Springs / Indio CA)
I fully understand having the brand name in large type on the container, and the individual product in smaller type, but who in their right mind approved the same color scheme for all three products (shampoo, conditioner, and hand and body wash L-R respectively)?
moreover, why did they choose a font color with such low contrast from the container background?
Residence Inn La Quinta (Palm Springs / Indio CA)
But they're so hip, stylish, and woke.
Can someone tell me how "NØRTH" is pronounced?
bonvØY!
Jun 24, 2022, 6:27 pm
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Maybe instead of playing games with the obvious silly names, the dime-store degreed marketing geniuses could use red font color so those of us without uncorrected 20/20 vision could actually read what bottle is for what purpose. Even with the closeup photo on my computer screen and with my glasses on I had to squint to see which was which.
Jun 24, 2022, 7:32 pm
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Maybe instead of playing games with the obvious silly names, the dime-store degreed marketing geniuses could use red font color so those of us without uncorrected 20/20 vision could actually read what bottle is for what purpose. Even with the closeup photo on my computer screen and with my glasses on I had to squint to see which was which.
