We should move forward to file suit..
Aug 5, 2019, 12:45 am
#16
formerly fdemoulin
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: UK
Programs: SPG Lifetime Platinum, BA Silver, Virgin Flying Club Red
Posts: 916
Read the terms and conditions they can change whatever they like. If you no longer like the program you can leave. You obviously have too much time on your hands to even contemplate launching a lawsuit!
Aug 5, 2019, 6:46 am
#18
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: ORD
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Platinum/LT Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,594
You've listed a bunch of rule changes you don't like. But you've offered no explanation of what made these changes illegal. How do you assume these were not LEGAL rule changes instead? Can you please provide some basis for these comments? I think that will get you a lot more support.
Aug 5, 2019, 6:53 am
#19
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAN and LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC LT Gold, HH Dia, MR LT Plat, IHG Diamond Amb, Amex Plat
Posts: 13,768
There is perhaps an argument that were any claim filed in Europe that the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations would come into play which would potentially invalidate broad omnibus terms like Marriott/SPG could change the terms whenever they liked. However there was notice given re: the changes so that could be enough to make the change reasonable.
Aug 5, 2019, 9:49 am
#20
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,121
Aug 5, 2019, 10:11 am
#21
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Formerly of SacTown, Cali
Posts: 1,243
Perhaps no call for it but that's part of the fun of internet message boards. In fact, boards without a little flava' are quite boring really. Plus, not sure it's ridicule when people point out things like "here are what the rules say...." That's more "facts" than "ridicule" I would say.
Aug 5, 2019, 11:35 am
#22
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
Perhaps no call for it but that's part of the fun of internet message boards. In fact, boards without a little flava' are quite boring really. Plus, not sure it's ridicule when people point out things like "here are what the rules say...." That's more "facts" than "ridicule" I would say.
Now that points are posting, accounts have been combined, status is right, the website works, and we can sort by price ... the board seems to have quieted down!
Aug 5, 2019, 11:45 am
#23
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NYC - upper West Side
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite
Posts: 1,597
Maybe it's the self-appointed "free speech" police that chastise members who express legitimate criticisms that should be moving along..
Perhaps no call for it but that's part of the fun of internet message boards. In fact, boards without a little flava' are quite boring really. Plus, not sure it's ridicule when people point out things like "here are what the rules say...." That's more "facts" than "ridicule" I would say.
Newman
Aug 5, 2019, 11:46 am
#24
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: In the air
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy LT Plat, Hilton Gold, GHA Tit, BA Gold, Turkish Elite
Posts: 8,713
Points still not posting correctly, website still down on a frequent basis, the app is still not making all prices available and the price the website sorts is sometimes not actually right.’
just sayin
But yes, one has to admit things are much less bad than a year ago (but much, much worse than 2 years ago).
just sayin
But yes, one has to admit things are much less bad than a year ago (but much, much worse than 2 years ago). 
Aug 5, 2019, 2:21 pm
#26
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
Posts: 1,899
I agree that the program has been devalued in countless ways and I'm disgusted by Marriott and their tool of a "leader."
Having said that, I consider both 500 and 600 nights to be almost absurdly generous for a top-tier LT status. I can only hypothesize that the target stay requirements were selected to minimize uproar during the merger; expect them to climb over time.
Having said that, I consider both 500 and 600 nights to be almost absurdly generous for a top-tier LT status. I can only hypothesize that the target stay requirements were selected to minimize uproar during the merger; expect them to climb over time.
Aug 5, 2019, 3:11 pm
#27
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Somewhere in Florida
Posts: 2,616
Points still not posting correctly, website still down on a frequent basis, the app is still not making all prices available and the price the website sorts is sometimes not actually right.’
just sayin But yes, one has to admit things are much less bad than a year ago (but much, much worse than 2 years ago).
just sayin
But yes, one has to admit things are much less bad than a year ago (but much, much worse than 2 years ago).
Aug 5, 2019, 3:42 pm
#28
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
There is perhaps an argument that were any claim filed in Europe that the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations would come into play which would potentially invalidate broad omnibus terms like Marriott/SPG could change the terms whenever they liked. However there was notice given re: the changes so that could be enough to make the change reasonable.