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Old Jul 15, 2019, 12:56 pm
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Sorry to be contrary, but my company doesn't count the resort fees in our per diem hotel booking limits, so there are times when this practice of tacking on the resort fee helps me rather than hurts. That said, I do occasionally want to lose my temper over them.
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by Score8
Sorry to be contrary, but my company doesn't count the resort fees in our per diem hotel booking limits, so there are times when this practice of tacking on the resort fee helps me rather than hurts. That said, I do occasionally want to lose my temper over them.
I'm surprised that someone hasn't yet pointed out that a very low base rate and a very high resort fee can lead to a comparatively cheap Hilton award stay. Tropicana in Vegas, for example. Not that I'd actually recommend anyone stay there, ever.

Doesn't help with Marriott, which is perhaps why no one's mentioned it yet.
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by Score8
Sorry to be contrary, but my company doesn't count the resort fees in our per diem hotel booking limits, so there are times when this practice of tacking on the resort fee helps me rather than hurts. That said, I do occasionally want to lose my temper over them.
Those times when having an incompetent corporate travel policy and agency can actually be useful!
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolConsultant
Here's the CEO defending resort fees:

https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...s-resort-fees/



1) They're nothing like baggage fees, because baggage fees are optional - don't check bags if you don't want to pay them.
2) Every actual resort I stayed at where I paid a resort fee, activities were still an additional charge. Also, a lot of non-resort hotels in the city are now charging these fees too, and they don't have "paddle boarding and bikes".
3) As a Lifetime Titanium I already get free breakfast at most hotels. Coincidentally, at island resorts where I have to pay a resort fee, I STILL have to pay to upgrade my free Elite breakfast to a proper one.
How about Mr Sorenson make another comment on these mandatory 'Destination Fees' of $25-30 in New York etc? Why are they mandatory for instance?
"Marriott, Hilton and Hyatt say the fees cover upgraded WiFi, on-property food and beverage credits, phone service and either free or discounted local activities, such as audio tours."
https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-...stination-fees
America, land of the fees
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by joakgarp
How about Mr Sorenson make another comment on these mandatory 'Destination Fees' of $25-30 in New York etc? Why are they mandatory for instance?
"Marriott, Hilton and Hyatt say the fees cover upgraded WiFi, on-property food and beverage credits, phone service and either free or discounted local activities, such as audio tours."
I made sure to get my Central Park Zoo tickets from the concierge even though I wasn't going to use them they're good though the the of the year, will find friends with kids or scalp them on eBay or something
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 11:42 am
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It would be ok if it was optional
what’s the point in a forced fee?
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Gringuito
It would be ok if it was optional
what’s the point in a forced fee?
The same point as any forced fee, which is to get people to pay for something that they wouldn't purchase if they had a choice.
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Gringuito
It would be ok if it was optional
what’s the point in a forced fee?
To trick you into thinking you were getting something for a lower price.
In some cases, to also trick search engines into sorting the hotels in a deceptive order.
Potentially in other cases, to bait-and-switch some corporate customers by giving them less total discount than they thought they negotiated. (Although some of the biggest corp deals waive resort fees because the companies are large enough to demand it.)
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by joakgarp
America, land of the fees
And the home of the rage!
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 5:39 am
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I'd love to see this deceptive practice banned. To book a hotel in Las Vegas, you need your travel search engine and, at the same time, a site that lists resort fees for the various brands and properties so you can estimate the true cost of the options you see. Makes the process way more time consuming.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by Gringuito
It would be ok if it was optional
what’s the point in a forced fee?
1. When it's a fee you don't earn points - so for a $50 room with $30 resort fee, you only earn point for the $50. However if the room is sold at $80 without the resort fee then you earn points on $80. So hotels pay fewer points to award your stay;

2. It can trick price comparison site that the hotel is sold at $50 instead of $80
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 5:44 am
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Hilton is also being sued but at least Hilton doesn't charge resort fee on award stays.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 5:51 am
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Originally Posted by rrgg
Why Marriott? If I book a resort at Marriott or Hilton, they disclose the resort fee the same way. Did Racine get a campaign contribution from one and not the other?
DC is a Marriott town. The first Hot Shoppes was here. The first hotel - the Marriott Twin Bridges - was right across the river. There are seemingly as many Marriott's as Starbucks here.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 6:13 am
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Instead of destination fees, some hotels in SoCal charges like hell for parking - I was looking to use my 40k cert but then the FS hotel I looked at charges $32 parking, and then you can get the very same spot for $7.95 from a parking app (the condition is that you can't be an overnight guest at the hotel). It's totally ridiculous and it's basically telling people that you will have to pay the insane parking as a fee in order to stay at the hotel.
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Old Jul 30, 2019, 6:19 am
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Originally Posted by txirish
I'd love to see this deceptive practice banned. To book a hotel in Las Vegas, you need your travel search engine and, at the same time, a site that lists resort fees for the various brands and properties so you can estimate the true cost of the options you see. Makes the process way more time consuming.
Or you could just go to the hotel's official website. It will list it right there. No need to use multiple shady online travel sites where you end up getting screwed when you think you are saving money.
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