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timfountain May 17, 19 5:38 pm

Marriott Burbank - No hot water at 6:00 this morning - Appropriate compensation?
 
I'm not normally a compensation kind of guy but I had a miserable end to my stay at the Marriott Burbank today (5/17). When I went to have a shower this morning, I was greeted to freezing cold water in the hot water faucet, and exactly the same in the shower. Not taking a shower was not an option, so I had the most miserable shower, complete with uncontrollable shivering and chattering teeth, it really was that cold! On check out I mentioned the issue and was greeted by a really indifferent front office staff who said something to the effect that "yeah, a few people have mentioned that as an issue". What does the collective wisdom of the group think is an appropriate ask as compensation?

Thanks!

sbrower May 17, 19 10:44 pm


Originally Posted by timfountain (Post 31112733)
I'm not normally a compensation kind of guy but I had a miserable end to my stay at the Marriott Burbank today (5/17). When I went to have a shower this morning, I was greeted to freezing cold water in the hot water faucet, and exactly the same in the shower. Not taking a shower was not an option, so I had the most miserable shower, complete with uncontrollable shivering and chattering teeth, it really was that cold! On check out I mentioned the issue and was greeted by a really indifferent front office staff who said something to the effect that "yeah, a few people have mentioned that as an issue". What does the collective wisdom of the group think is an appropriate ask as compensation?

Thanks!

I seem to disagree with many people who think they are entitled to compensation. However, on this issue, I will probably be more "generous" than most. A hot shower is one of the primary benefits I require. I would, in many instances, expect not to be charged for my hotel night if there wasn't hot water for my shower.

Horace May 17, 19 10:50 pm

The hotel failed to provide one of the most basic components of hotel stay. A secure, comfortable room and a decent shower are about as basic as it gets.

The hotel should have offered an apology and compensation proactively.

My inclination would be to write an honest online review about your experience. And I would never stay at the hotel again — not because of the hot water failure but because of the uncaring attitude about the failure. But I probably would not ask for compensation.

However, I'm not telling you what to do. You might consider asking the hotel manager what he/she would consider fair compensation if he or she had been the guest. Or you could ask for 10,000 points or 20,000 points or points equivalent to one night at the hotel and see what happens.

Oxon Flyer May 18, 19 2:24 am


Originally Posted by timfountain (Post 31112733)
so I had the most miserable shower, complete with uncontrollable shivering and chattering teeth

I think most of us would go for the ‘quick rinse’ option rather than ‘self-induced hypothermia’ when faced with a hot water failure like this .... :p

writerguyfl May 18, 19 4:01 am


Originally Posted by Oxon Flyer (Post 31113492)
I think most of us would go for the ‘quick rinse’ option rather than ‘self-induced hypothermia’ when faced with a hot water failure like this .... :p

Yes! I was without power for over 3 weeks after Hurricane Wilma in 2005. No power = no hot water. I became an expert at showering with minimal contact with water. You douse yourself to get wet, lather separately, and a very quick rinse.


Originally Posted by timfountain (Post 31112733)
What does the collective wisdom of the group think is an appropriate ask as compensation?

I doubt you'll get a consensus on this issue. Some will insist on a completely free stay; other people would be satisfied with a minor gesture.

As someone who used to work in hotels, I implore you to report the problem immediately next time. (Hopefully, there won't be a next time.) But, it's impossible for a hotel to fix a problem if they don't know it exists. Any time there's a problem in a hotel, just pick up the phone, dial "0", and report it.

Even if that problem can't get fixed immediately for you, consider the fact that you might be helping out another guest who isn't awake yet.

As for compensation, the absolute best time to figure that out is when you are at the hotel. Generally speaking, you'll get a better response when you're standing into front of someone when compared to an after-the-fact email or phone call.

As for what to ask for, I say go with Jiminy Cricket: let your conscience be your guide. If you think your entire stay was ruined by lack of hot water, ask for a full refund (or comparable points). If the shower was a bad part of an otherwise decent stay, ask for something less. There really isn't a correct answer.

vj_rama May 18, 19 6:05 am

Had the opposite happen to me at a courtyard recently. Shower was either scalding hot or frigid - no middle ground, no shower. I mentioned to the front desk that morning, she initially offered me 3 items from the snack shack!

i insisted on at least half my points back as compensation. It had to be cleared by property manager but was refunded half my points within 48 hours.

Collierkr May 18, 19 6:13 am

Terrible when this happens yet it does. I would have IMMEDIATELY called and asked for at least half on that night’s room charge refunded or 20,000 points. Depending on how my request was handled I would then write both Marriott and an online review with appropriate details.

Oh oh and they make wash clothes for a reason :-)

DCAFly May 18, 19 8:31 am


Originally Posted by timfountain (Post 31112733)
I'm not normally a compensation kind of guy but I had a miserable end to my stay at the Marriott Burbank today (5/17). When I went to have a shower this morning, I was greeted to freezing cold water in the hot water faucet, and exactly the same in the shower. Not taking a shower was not an option, so I had the most miserable shower, complete with uncontrollable shivering and chattering teeth, it really was that cold! On check out I mentioned the issue and was greeted by a really indifferent front office staff who said something to the effect that "yeah, a few people have mentioned that as an issue". What does the collective wisdom of the group think is an appropriate ask as compensation?

Thanks!

When you called down to the desk to report the problem, what did they say? Did they at least offer you another room to shower in?

DJ_Iceman May 18, 19 8:59 am

The worst part of this story is the poor response by the front desk. That, to me, demonstrates that hotel management doesn't care about properly training their associates. Attitudes like that (or the opposite) start from the top. I agree with previous posters who said to let your conscience be your guide in terms of asking for compensation; personally I would just let it go but add the hotel to my "never stay at again" list.

Often1 May 18, 19 10:13 am


Originally Posted by DCAFly (Post 31114114)
When you called down to the desk to report the problem, what did they say? Did they at least offer you another room to shower in?

This is the key.

99% of problems are best dealt with on the spot. Even if the room is comped, you still did not get a decent shower. It appears from the conversation with the FD that this was not a universal problem. Presuming that there were empty rooms, this had an easy solution.

After the fact, you can certainly ask for whatever you want and the property can do whatever it wants.

timfountain May 18, 19 10:22 am


Originally Posted by DCAFly (Post 31114114)
When you called down to the desk to report the problem, what did they say? Did they at least offer you another room to shower in?

I was on a tight timeline. 7:00 departure and a 5:00 alarm with me rolling out of bed around 5:20. I dind't have the time to call down, but did mention it when I was checking out at around 5:50.

iadisgreat May 18, 19 10:24 am

This happened to me at a Marriott in South Florida this week - sent them a text and received 10k points without asking and they sent someone up while I was at work. The next day water wasn't hot again in the shower (was in the sink) and I didn't push the issue as I imagine that everyone was showering at 7:45 am.

Johnny Rocket May 18, 19 10:58 am

A similar thing happened to me at the Element New York and I received 30,000 points... 10K SPG.

dayone May 18, 19 11:43 am

A credit of half the room cost or 10,000 points would have been fair for me.

HNLbasedFlyer May 18, 19 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by timfountain (Post 31114420)
I was on a tight timeline. 7:00 departure and a 5:00 alarm with me rolling out of bed around 5:20. I dind't have the time to call down, but did mention it when I was checking out at around 5:50.

You've lost all your leverage and as a Gold - I wouldn't be surprised if the hotel didn't give you anything


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