Lifetime Status Has Me Worried About Complaining & Getting Booted
#31
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HNL
Programs: UA GS4MM, MR LT Plat, Hilton Gold
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#33
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: DTW
Programs: DL DM, National EE, Hertz PC, IHG PL, Bonvoy Amb
Posts: 1,342
Perhaps this should be a separate thread - but by way of example, I am going to Asia soon for a quick weekend, but I'm not sure which country yet - and likely won't decide until a week before based on work (i.e. is midnight flight from Atlanta to Seoul more convenient than a daytime flight from DTW or MSP, etc. etc.)... anything wrong with, let's say for example, having simultaneous reservations in Tokyo, Seoul, Shanghai, and Beijing for the same weekend, and then cancelling three of the four, 2 to 5 days before?
#34
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: LGA
Programs: DL DM, UA Gold, Marriott Plat Prem., Hilton Gold, National Exec Elite.
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Maybe the initial post/title were poorly phrased... this is what I'm more concerned about - though the thread was more of a getting booted in general, for various reasons
Speculative Bookings/Duplicate Bookings
Speculative Bookings/Duplicate Bookings
#35
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
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Maybe the initial post/title were poorly phrased... this is what I'm more concerned about - though the thread was more of a getting booted in general, for various reasons
Speculative Bookings/Duplicate Bookings
Speculative Bookings/Duplicate Bookings
#36
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
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Maybe the initial post/title were poorly phrased... this is what I'm more concerned about - though the thread was more of a getting booted in general, for various reasons
Speculative Bookings/Duplicate Bookings
Speculative Bookings/Duplicate Bookings
#37
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: ORD
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Platinum/LT Platinum, Hilton Gold
Posts: 5,594
But let's take the Westin Bonaventure for example, there you get breakfast in the restaurant which I have been told is $40+ (I'd be surprised if it is less than $30 - best breakfast ever) - multiply that by two people... wouldn't Marriott beancounters count that as $80 in breakfast (even if you eat $10 worth of food), then you have the Titanium point bonus, the double point promo, etc... And suddenly if you have someone paying $150/night or less, Marriott may conclude it's better to boot the person, especially if they have, just by way of a crazy example, $80,000 worth of points...
Likely my fear is irrational, but still - you'd think Marriott would want to get rid of Lifetimers who don't spend much per night and get a lot of benefits.
Likely my fear is irrational, but still - you'd think Marriott would want to get rid of Lifetimers who don't spend much per night and get a lot of benefits.
Don't think for a minute that the rate you (and others) pay for a room doesn't take into account all the benefits and promotions. Marriott doesn't set a room rate and then independently set benefits. All of that is factored in, with years of history as evidence of how both revenue and expenses will play out.
If Marriott feels like the LT program is no longer a good business opportunity, they'll change the program long before they'll look at individuals they feel are not profitable enough.
#38
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: BOS
Programs: Marriott LTG, HHonors Diamond, Nat'l Exec
Posts: 3,581
Not to mention that a lot of the elite benefits get paid for by the properties, while Marriott corporate handles Bonvoy membership. So it's someone else's $8.
#39
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 77
Don't mistake price for cost
This is the reasoning of an individual customer, not a business that serves millions of customers. You look at it as a single instance of a $150 room with, say, $120 in benefits. Marriott is not only looking at that one instance, but a million people staying in their hotels, paying various room rates, and collecting various benefits. For every $150 room you stay in, someone is paying for a $500 room and receiving no benefits.
Don't think for a minute that the rate you (and others) pay for a room doesn't take into account all the benefits and promotions. Marriott doesn't set a room rate and then independently set benefits. All of that is factored in, with years of history as evidence of how both revenue and expenses will play out.
If Marriott feels like the LT program is no longer a good business opportunity, they'll change the program long before they'll look at individuals they feel are not profitable enough.
Don't think for a minute that the rate you (and others) pay for a room doesn't take into account all the benefits and promotions. Marriott doesn't set a room rate and then independently set benefits. All of that is factored in, with years of history as evidence of how both revenue and expenses will play out.
If Marriott feels like the LT program is no longer a good business opportunity, they'll change the program long before they'll look at individuals they feel are not profitable enough.
#40
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Washington DC Metro Area
Programs: A: PP, LTG/1.5M | UA: SLV | Bonvoy LTTi | IHG PLT| Avis PC | Nat'l Emerald Club EE
Posts: 1,067
MBV does specifically state in T&C you can't earn nights for overlapping stays at different properties, but that's a different matter entirely.
cheers!
#41
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Washington DC Metro Area
Programs: A: PP, LTG/1.5M | UA: SLV | Bonvoy LTTi | IHG PLT| Avis PC | Nat'l Emerald Club EE
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Maybe the initial post/title were poorly phrased... this is what I'm more concerned about - though the thread was more of a getting booted in general, for various reasons
Speculative Bookings/Duplicate Bookings
Speculative Bookings/Duplicate Bookings
#43
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: ORD
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Platinum/LT Platinum, Hilton Gold
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#44
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Location: MSP
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If more than half of your 1.2 million points were the results of complaints (rather than stays, credit card usage, etc.) I'd worry about getting kicked out.