Elite guarantee not honored
#106
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Recently at a Marriott Sheraton property in Hawaii I reserved a two queen room, all that was available was a king room. When I mentioned the Titanium guarantee I was immediately offered 200$ bill credit or 20000 points, which I think is actually above the required compensation. The payment would not be given in cash, however.
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The only time I did this request (booked a king and got two doubles), the front desk person basically accused me of trying to steal from them. The manager was condescending to me, but ultimately offered me 25k points vs paying out the 150 (it was a westin).
Just not worth it. Another worthless “perk” that you have to fight tooth and nail for. Echo what @UA-NYC said... Hyatt is just easier to deal with
Just not worth it. Another worthless “perk” that you have to fight tooth and nail for. Echo what @UA-NYC said... Hyatt is just easier to deal with
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Recently at a Marriott Sheraton property in Hawaii I reserved a two queen room, all that was available was a king room. When I mentioned the Titanium guarantee I was immediately offered 200$ bill credit or 20000 points, which I think is actually above the required compensation. The payment would not be given in cash, however.
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For the stay in question last week I checked in at 2a (yay ATL) and my primary motivation was sleeping not fighting over $50 at check-in.
Marriott's MO seems to be to force the guest to advocate for themselves instead of helping the guest advocate with the hotel that's in violation of the T+Cs of the program.
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Are you supposed to figure this out via telepathy? If the front desk person doesn't tell you what room you've been assigned and the app doesn't have any room info I'm not sure how this is supposed to happen.
For the stay in question last week I checked in at 2a (yay ATL) and my primary motivation was sleeping not fighting over $50 at check-in.
Marriott's MO seems to be to force the guest to advocate for themselves instead of helping the guest advocate with the hotel that's in violation of the T+Cs of the program.
For the stay in question last week I checked in at 2a (yay ATL) and my primary motivation was sleeping not fighting over $50 at check-in.
Marriott's MO seems to be to force the guest to advocate for themselves instead of helping the guest advocate with the hotel that's in violation of the T+Cs of the program.
--Jon
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Are you supposed to figure this out via telepathy? If the front desk person doesn't tell you what room you've been assigned and the app doesn't have any room info I'm not sure how this is supposed to happen.
For the stay in question last week I checked in at 2a (yay ATL) and my primary motivation was sleeping not fighting over $50 at check-in.
Marriott's MO seems to be to force the guest to advocate for themselves instead of helping the guest advocate with the hotel that's in violation of the T+Cs of the program.
For the stay in question last week I checked in at 2a (yay ATL) and my primary motivation was sleeping not fighting over $50 at check-in.
Marriott's MO seems to be to force the guest to advocate for themselves instead of helping the guest advocate with the hotel that's in violation of the T+Cs of the program.
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Once you're in the room and discover the different bedding than what was reserved, you don't necessarily want to take all your luggage and go back to the front desk to stand in line again.
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No. Oral communication with the person who's checking you in should suffice. If the room type discrepancy is not discovered until you get to the room, a quick call to the front desk is certainly in order.
I'm as critical of Marriott as anyone in this forum, but just taking the room without objection, then demanding $$ the next morning strikes me as classic sandbagging.
I agree with the first point, not the second. If the room type error matters enough to demand money, then it matters enough to either pick up the phone or head back down to the lobby once it's discovered.
I'm as critical of Marriott as anyone in this forum, but just taking the room without objection, then demanding $$ the next morning strikes me as classic sandbagging.
To be fair, the front desk agent should ALWAYS tell the guest at check in when a downgraded room is being assigned or when the assigned room has different bedding.
Once you're in the room and discover the different bedding than what was reserved, you don't necessarily want to take all your luggage and go back to the front desk to stand in line again.
Once you're in the room and discover the different bedding than what was reserved, you don't necessarily want to take all your luggage and go back to the front desk to stand in line again.
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No. Oral communication with the person who's checking you in should suffice. If the room type discrepancy is not discovered until you get to the room, a quick call to the front desk is certainly in order.
I'm as critical of Marriott as anyone in this forum, but just taking the room without objection, then demanding $$ the next morning strikes me as classic sandbagging.
I agree with the first point, not the second. If the room type error matters enough to demand money, then it matters enough to either pick up the phone or head back down to the lobby once it's discovered.
I'm as critical of Marriott as anyone in this forum, but just taking the room without objection, then demanding $$ the next morning strikes me as classic sandbagging.
I agree with the first point, not the second. If the room type error matters enough to demand money, then it matters enough to either pick up the phone or head back down to the lobby once it's discovered.
--Jon
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I'm as critical of Marriott as anyone in this forum, but just taking the room without objection, then demanding $$ the next morning strikes me as classic sandbagging.
I agree with the first point, not the second. If the room type error matters enough to demand money, then it matters enough to either pick up the phone or head back down to the lobby once it's discovered.
I agree with the first point, not the second. If the room type error matters enough to demand money, then it matters enough to either pick up the phone or head back down to the lobby once it's discovered.
I was just rather shocked at my first attempt at accountability that I was yelled at by the front desk. I'm not sure dealing with it at 2am would have yielded anything different other than less sleep for me. If I had checked-in at 4p and had nowhere to be for a couple hours I'd certainly deal with it as soon as I realized what was happening.
To put this in further context I actually worked at the front desk of a Sheraton in college. I know how these things work and I'm reasonably confident that come 2a I was assigned the only room type they had left. When someone moved me earlier in the day to accommodate another guest they accepted the business risk of doing that. Part of that, defined, business risk is they pay out. It shouldn't matter whether the claim is made at night or in the morning. And a guest certainly shouldn't be shamed for enforcing the rules of the program (and why as a guest I have to enforce it is beyond me. It should be automatic).
Exactly.
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Lots of good points being made in this thread, and I very much sympathize with those who haven't been getting their bed type. And no guest should ever get yelled at by any hotel employee--that's just shocking.
I do agree with Kacee that if one accepts a room with a different bed type without even attempting to get it changed, then the next day demands the room type guarantee, it kind of rubs me the wrong way. If the bed type thing isn't important enough to you to complain at the time, then it doesn't really seem worth the compensation, either.
I do agree with Kacee that if one accepts a room with a different bed type without even attempting to get it changed, then the next day demands the room type guarantee, it kind of rubs me the wrong way. If the bed type thing isn't important enough to you to complain at the time, then it doesn't really seem worth the compensation, either.
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Who said anything about "letting the property off the hook"? Made up facts. Either you care enough about the room type to object when you discover the problem, or you don't.
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Lots of good points being made in this thread, and I very much sympathize with those who haven't been getting their bed type. And no guest should ever get yelled at by any hotel employee--that's just shocking.
I do agree with Kacee that if one accepts a room with a different bed type without even attempting to get it changed, then the next day demands the room type guarantee, it kind of rubs me the wrong way. If the bed type thing isn't important enough to you to complain at the time, then it doesn't really seem worth the compensation, either.
I do agree with Kacee that if one accepts a room with a different bed type without even attempting to get it changed, then the next day demands the room type guarantee, it kind of rubs me the wrong way. If the bed type thing isn't important enough to you to complain at the time, then it doesn't really seem worth the compensation, either.
I have only had to evoke the guarantee once and it was reluctantly paid.
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Sometimes when it's a nondisclosed room category downgrade, you must go back to the reservation to check what was booked, then the hotel's website to compare room category descriptions and associated amenities, etc. It can take some time and research to ascertain that you've been downgraded and to document this or find "proof" to show to the hotel staff.