No show: credit, points and strategy?
Mar 30, 2019, 12:57 pm
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No show: credit, points and strategy?
I have a booking that I am not going to be able to use (due to a flight change situation). I will be getting into town but have to proceed onwards to keep my other plans intact, and don't need to check into the property. This is a cash booking.
Being too late (<24 hrs), I forfeit funds anyway upon cancellation. So, if I just don't show & they charge me, will I get stay credit and points, or is that dependent on actually stying?
If I won't get any credit, I may still be in a position to check in (even physically) as the property is on the way to where I am going eventually. Can I check in and out immediately and get credit thence? My point is that I'm paying them anyway (& they'll probably even resell it, I don't know) - so why shouldn't I get what I would have otherwise?
Being too late (<24 hrs), I forfeit funds anyway upon cancellation. So, if I just don't show & they charge me, will I get stay credit and points, or is that dependent on actually stying?
If I won't get any credit, I may still be in a position to check in (even physically) as the property is on the way to where I am going eventually. Can I check in and out immediately and get credit thence? My point is that I'm paying them anyway (& they'll probably even resell it, I don't know) - so why shouldn't I get what I would have otherwise?
Mar 30, 2019, 1:57 pm
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It is possible that if you speak directly to the hotel, they will cancel with no penalty.
You have to actually stay.
If the hotel will not allow you to cancel with no penalty, I would do this. Check in and leave. Don't bother to check out. Many of us don't. You will be auto checked out the following morning.
If I won't get any credit, I may still be in a position to check in (even physically) as the property is on the way to where I am going eventually. Can I check in and out immediately and get credit thence? My point is that I'm paying them anyway (& they'll probably even resell it, I don't know) - so why shouldn't I get what I would have otherwise?
Mar 30, 2019, 2:15 pm
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Unless you check-in, you won't get anything. It doesn't matter what you think you are entitled to - the rules are the rules.
If you can pass by the hotel, however briefly, and check-in... that is your best bet. Don't check out unless you want to screw everything up. It will happen automatically the next morning.
If you can pass by the hotel, however briefly, and check-in... that is your best bet. Don't check out unless you want to screw everything up. It will happen automatically the next morning.
Mar 30, 2019, 6:14 pm
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Mar 30, 2019, 6:15 pm
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It is possible that if you speak directly to the hotel, they will cancel with no penalty.
You have to actually stay.
If the hotel will not allow you to cancel with no penalty, I would do this. Check in and leave. Don't bother to check out. Many of us don't. You will be auto checked out the following morning.
You have to actually stay.
If the hotel will not allow you to cancel with no penalty, I would do this. Check in and leave. Don't bother to check out. Many of us don't. You will be auto checked out the following morning.
Unless you check-in, you won't get anything. It doesn't matter what you think you are entitled to - the rules are the rules.
If you can pass by the hotel, however briefly, and check-in... that is your best bet. Don't check out unless you want to screw everything up. It will happen automatically the next morning.
If you can pass by the hotel, however briefly, and check-in... that is your best bet. Don't check out unless you want to screw everything up. It will happen automatically the next morning.
Mar 30, 2019, 8:11 pm
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I agree with everyone else who says to check in and NOT check out. It happens automatically the next day.
Do us all a favor and ask for the crappiest room upon check-in. Save the 'nicer' rooms for others who are checking in after you and will actually be staying the night.
You're gonna have to pay for the night either way and the only way to get credit for it is to check-in in person. So you might as well do it if it's not too far out of the way.
-RM
Do us all a favor and ask for the crappiest room upon check-in. Save the 'nicer' rooms for others who are checking in after you and will actually be staying the night.
You're gonna have to pay for the night either way and the only way to get credit for it is to check-in in person. So you might as well do it if it's not too far out of the way.
-RM
Mar 31, 2019, 2:02 am
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P.S. Don't be too blatant and it may not always be possible, but ask for a copy of the bill when you check in.
Why? Because you might get Bonvoyed and Marriott's IT won't post your stay automatically. And in Bonvoy's infinitely awful wisdom, you can't request retro-credit without sending in a photo of your hotel bill. It can be a royal pain to request it from the hotel later.
It's one reason why I am loathe to fully mattress run Marriott hotels any more.
Why? Because you might get Bonvoyed and Marriott's IT won't post your stay automatically. And in Bonvoy's infinitely awful wisdom, you can't request retro-credit without sending in a photo of your hotel bill. It can be a royal pain to request it from the hotel later.
It's one reason why I am loathe to fully mattress run Marriott hotels any more.
Mar 31, 2019, 8:32 am
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Mar 31, 2019, 9:22 am
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Check in. Mess the duvet up a bit. Take the free amenities and leave. Never check out as not staying the night means no credit.
You will be auto checked out out the next morning
You will be auto checked out out the next morning
Mar 31, 2019, 10:09 am
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Absolutely not necessary! Why create unnecessary laundry? Be green and leave the room intact. All that matters is that you checked in. What you do with the room is your business. There is no requirement for the bed to be messed up.
Mar 31, 2019, 10:28 am
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I would hope they would do the laundry after someone is checked out, whether the bed is messed up or not. Maybe the person staying is anal and makes the bed before they leave??