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#31
A common misconception. Anyone, even a guest with no status at all, is eligible for a suite upgrade if it makes sense for the hotel to do so. It's just like an operational upgrade on an airline.
However, if there are sufficient guests with higher status, they should definitely be upgraded before any "operational upgrades".
However, if there are sufficient guests with higher status, they should definitely be upgraded before any "operational upgrades".
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#33
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The T&Cs called for upgrades based upon availability at check in. This was long before OLCI was an option. Given many of the properties where I have stayed pre block their upgrades (and reflected online before arrival) that was pretty much out the window. And with SPG sending a preference list, that also shot down availability. Now there have been instances where I asked about an upgrade at check in and I was assigned a different room only to find a welcome letter/gift addressed to the previously assigned guest. I'm just waiting for them to send us all up to the bar/lounge until 6pm and then dole out the upgraded rooms at that time. Of course you'd be free to accept what's available upon arrival, if you need/want to settle in early.
#34
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OLCI (unless it's a mobile key situation) doesn't really check you in. A lot of people don't realize that. You're not formally checked in until you arrive at the property. OLCI just gives a heads up to the hotel that you've done OLCI, they'll check the ressie for any requests, & have the keys made for when you arrive - but they still manually check you in at the front desk even if the keys were pre-made.
Cheers.
Cheers.
#35
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Another area where Hilton blows Marriott out of the water. OLCI with room selection and pretty good coverage on the digital key feature. I am about 50/50 on HH/MBV and this is one thing where, as a longtime legacy Hilton guy, there is no contest.
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... that being said, I'm not sure if the "Pay now to upgrade your room" means they don't willingly hand out upgrades to elites, though.
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#38
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OLCI (unless it's a mobile key situation) doesn't really check you in. A lot of people don't realize that. You're not formally checked in until you arrive at the property. OLCI just gives a heads up to the hotel that you've done OLCI, they'll check the ressie for any requests, & have the keys made for when you arrive - but they still manually check you in at the front desk even if the keys were pre-made.
Cheers.
Cheers.
As if the room is not assigned yet, how can the FD pre made the key ?
#39
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Some properties require me to go through more of the formalities, but the online check-in experience has greatly improved at most properties within the last six months or so. More and more properties, across multiple brands, including Courtyard, also have the mobile key technology.
So, yes, in my experience the online check-in does make a difference. When combined with asking for a suite upgrade through the mobile chat application, my upgrade percentage has gone way up.
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OK. Clarifying a little:
I checked in online 24h before arrival and was definitely assigned a room - there was a card from the staff addressed to me by name welcoming me. I don't know if my colleague checked in online.
Talked to the FD during check-out. The reason I was given is that I reserved a double queen room and they didn't want to upgrade me to a single bed suite since I might have needed the two beds. OK, I guess that's legitimate, but they could have asked me. <shrug>
Just checked in to another CY for a one-night stay - no upgrade. They show a suite is available when I go to reserve a room for tonight at the same property.
I checked in online 24h before arrival and was definitely assigned a room - there was a card from the staff addressed to me by name welcoming me. I don't know if my colleague checked in online.
Talked to the FD during check-out. The reason I was given is that I reserved a double queen room and they didn't want to upgrade me to a single bed suite since I might have needed the two beds. OK, I guess that's legitimate, but they could have asked me. <shrug>
Just checked in to another CY for a one-night stay - no upgrade. They show a suite is available when I go to reserve a room for tonight at the same property.
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This is one reason why I do online check in via the APP and message the property if I am traveling with the plus one or family as to enhance their Bonvoy experience so they understand why I'm on the road a lot.
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I haven't made any stays since officially becoming Tit4Lyfe, but it'll be interesting to see how things go now that there's a well(?)-defined status level for us now.
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Agreed and I think this is fair. For example, I know a couple of Marriott's that upgrade "regulars" to suites even though they aren't platinum or above. I don't have any issue of that ... my concern is properties that want upcharges or prefer to leave the suite vacant rather than give it to their best customers under the T&C of the program.
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I meant to mention it in another thread but @hockeyinsider clued me that the "Message to the Property" (you know the one I mean, the 45-character comment box) when booking tends to be ignored, and to use the messaging feature in the app instead at check-in. I'd done that on a reservation last week, and they'd messaged me back the day of the stay and told me I'd gotten the upgrade to the [all-suite floor] that I'd requested.
I haven't made any stays since officially becoming Tit4Lyfe, but it'll be interesting to see how things go now that there's a well(?)-defined status level for us now.
I haven't made any stays since officially becoming Tit4Lyfe, but it'll be interesting to see how things go now that there's a well(?)-defined status level for us now.
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OK. Clarifying a little:
I checked in online 24h before arrival and was definitely assigned a room - there was a card from the staff addressed to me by name welcoming me. I don't know if my colleague checked in online.
Talked to the FD during check-out. The reason I was given is that I reserved a double queen room and they didn't want to upgrade me to a single bed suite since I might have needed the two beds. OK, I guess that's legitimate, but they could have asked me. <shrug>
Just checked in to another CY for a one-night stay - no upgrade. They show a suite is available when I go to reserve a room for tonight at the same property.
I checked in online 24h before arrival and was definitely assigned a room - there was a card from the staff addressed to me by name welcoming me. I don't know if my colleague checked in online.
Talked to the FD during check-out. The reason I was given is that I reserved a double queen room and they didn't want to upgrade me to a single bed suite since I might have needed the two beds. OK, I guess that's legitimate, but they could have asked me. <shrug>
Just checked in to another CY for a one-night stay - no upgrade. They show a suite is available when I go to reserve a room for tonight at the same property.
BTW, in the comments field, I always say “prefer 2 beds, but will take 1 for suite upgrade”.