Cancellation -- Now 72 hrs?
#1
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Cancellation -- Now 72 hrs?
Since when did the cancellation window go from 48 hrs to 72 hrs?
It's amazing how quickly the cancellation policy has become very consumer un-friendly:
2015 - changed from day-of to 24 hrs
2017 - changed from 24 hrs to 48 hrs
2019(?) -- 72 hrs cancellations.
At this rate they might as well just flag all of the rates as pre-paid, non-refundable and call it done.
Perhaps your leisure travelers won't have a problem with this, but when traveling for business, a lot can happen in 3 days.
It's amazing how quickly the cancellation policy has become very consumer un-friendly:
2015 - changed from day-of to 24 hrs
2017 - changed from 24 hrs to 48 hrs
2019(?) -- 72 hrs cancellations.
At this rate they might as well just flag all of the rates as pre-paid, non-refundable and call it done.
Perhaps your leisure travelers won't have a problem with this, but when traveling for business, a lot can happen in 3 days.
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Since when did the cancellation window go from 48 hrs to 72 hrs?
It's amazing how quickly the cancellation policy has become very consumer un-friendly:
2015 - changed from day-of to 24 hrs
2017 - changed from 24 hrs to 48 hrs
2019(?) -- 72 hrs cancellations.
At this rate they might as well just flag all of the rates as pre-paid, non-refundable and call it done.
Perhaps your leisure travelers won't have a problem with this, but when traveling for business, a lot can happen in 3 days.
It's amazing how quickly the cancellation policy has become very consumer un-friendly:
2015 - changed from day-of to 24 hrs
2017 - changed from 24 hrs to 48 hrs
2019(?) -- 72 hrs cancellations.
At this rate they might as well just flag all of the rates as pre-paid, non-refundable and call it done.
Perhaps your leisure travelers won't have a problem with this, but when traveling for business, a lot can happen in 3 days.
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Since when did the cancellation window go from 48 hrs to 72 hrs?
It's amazing how quickly the cancellation policy has become very consumer un-friendly:
2015 - changed from day-of to 24 hrs
2017 - changed from 24 hrs to 48 hrs
2019(?) -- 72 hrs cancellations.
At this rate they might as well just flag all of the rates as pre-paid, non-refundable and call it done.
Perhaps your leisure travelers won't have a problem with this, but when traveling for business, a lot can happen in 3 days.
It's amazing how quickly the cancellation policy has become very consumer un-friendly:
2015 - changed from day-of to 24 hrs
2017 - changed from 24 hrs to 48 hrs
2019(?) -- 72 hrs cancellations.
At this rate they might as well just flag all of the rates as pre-paid, non-refundable and call it done.
Perhaps your leisure travelers won't have a problem with this, but when traveling for business, a lot can happen in 3 days.
I saw a 7 days cancellation for Marriott SkyCity in Hong Kong for any day in October even in the 2nd half when the first week of National Holidays are long gone and there are No events or conferences can be found on the calendars for either the Asian Expo (across street) and the Convention and Exhibition Center (far out in Wan Chai i.e. in the City an hour MTR ride away). Yet everyday in Sept the cancellation is 1 day before arrival.
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Unfortunately you do need to really read the small print on "flexible" bookings nowadays. It's extremely un-customer friendly. I've been lucky so far, but have had a few lucky near misses.
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My thoughts to the OP the hotels (and possibly corporate wide) will continue to expand as long as the economy is doing well and they are seeing no ill effects from this policy change. As soon as occupancy rates dip you will probably also see the cancellation policy ease a bit but I don't think we'll ever see a wholesale change to 6pm day of arrival again (or something equally as generous).
Maybe they'll add an elite benefit like Hyatt that if the hotel policy is 48 hours, Titanium's get 24 hour cancellation (or something like that).
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Since June 15, 2017. New Cancellation Policy Welcome to the party.
FWIW, I find most properties do not follow this 19 month old policy but instead a number of properties have a cancellation policy of 1 or 2 days before arrival. In the case of my existing reservations, none have a 3 day before arrival cancellation policy. Of my upcoming reservations, 5 in Europe, 1 in the ME, 7 in Asia, and 3 in Australia all have cancellation policies of 1 day before arrival. Even 1 of my US reservations has 1 day before arrival cancellation policy and 3 others have 2 days before arrival. I'm sure there are properties following these 19 month old 3-day cancellation policy guidelines, but I guess I've just been very lucky in that the properties I frequent don't.
FWIW, I find most properties do not follow this 19 month old policy but instead a number of properties have a cancellation policy of 1 or 2 days before arrival. In the case of my existing reservations, none have a 3 day before arrival cancellation policy. Of my upcoming reservations, 5 in Europe, 1 in the ME, 7 in Asia, and 3 in Australia all have cancellation policies of 1 day before arrival. Even 1 of my US reservations has 1 day before arrival cancellation policy and 3 others have 2 days before arrival. I'm sure there are properties following these 19 month old 3-day cancellation policy guidelines, but I guess I've just been very lucky in that the properties I frequent don't.
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I've spent a decent portion of the day researching rooms in multiple US cities and every property so far today is showing 3 days' notice. From Florida to NYC to Bumble-somewhere Pennsylvania, all of them are showing 3 days.
@neo_781's captured what I'm seeing -- Perhaps the policy has been in place for some time, BUT I've never encountered it before and certainly not every single property I search having it.
@neo_781's captured what I'm seeing -- Perhaps the policy has been in place for some time, BUT I've never encountered it before and certainly not every single property I search having it.
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I've spent a decent portion of the day researching rooms in multiple US cities and every property so far today is showing 3 days' notice. From Florida to NYC to Bumble-somewhere Pennsylvania, all of them are showing 3 days.
@neo_781's captured what I'm seeing -- Perhaps the policy has been in place for some time, BUT I've never encountered it before and certainly not every single property I search having it.
@neo_781's captured what I'm seeing -- Perhaps the policy has been in place for some time, BUT I've never encountered it before and certainly not every single property I search having it.
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I've spent a decent portion of the day researching rooms in multiple US cities and every property so far today is showing 3 days' notice. From Florida to NYC to Bumble-somewhere Pennsylvania, all of them are showing 3 days.
@neo_781's captured what I'm seeing -- Perhaps the policy has been in place for some time, BUT I've never encountered it before and certainly not every single property I search having it.
@neo_781's captured what I'm seeing -- Perhaps the policy has been in place for some time, BUT I've never encountered it before and certainly not every single property I search having it.
As far as your comment about making all rates advanced purchase, non-refundable rates, I don't think that is a good idea and I realize your were probably just venting. For 1, 2, or 3 day Cancellation policies generally one is only charged 1 night penalty, so that isn't quite as bad as booking a 4-night advanced purchase stay that is non-refundable in the unlikely event one does need to cancel.
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As others note:
1. Economy on screech.
2. The policy is apparently not hurting business.
In addition, many large corporate contracts waive the policy and substitute either 24 hours or sometimes 4 or 6 PM local day of arrival. It's the one-off customer or smaller business which is paying this.
To be fair, if you are looking for a room and see a property as sold out, you move on. This policy will cause people to book once they know what they need and will leave last minute high-rate rooms available for people who want to book and use them. Not really different than most typical US domestic penalty air fares.
1. Economy on screech.
2. The policy is apparently not hurting business.
In addition, many large corporate contracts waive the policy and substitute either 24 hours or sometimes 4 or 6 PM local day of arrival. It's the one-off customer or smaller business which is paying this.
To be fair, if you are looking for a room and see a property as sold out, you move on. This policy will cause people to book once they know what they need and will leave last minute high-rate rooms available for people who want to book and use them. Not really different than most typical US domestic penalty air fares.
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YES! The other day-looking at StR Maldives--non refundable allowed changes and cancelations in 24 hours-that's normal. Then click "standard rate" tab. Costs higher of course. They allowed cancelation until February 4th. I was looking on Feb 3rd. (For a stay in August.) Not exactly what you are saying, but these were no different than nonrefundable.
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As far as your comment about making all rates advanced purchase, non-refundable rates, I don't think that is a good idea and I realize your were probably just venting. For 1, 2, or 3 day Cancellation policies generally one is only charged 1 night penalty, so that isn't quite as bad as booking a 4-night advanced purchase stay that is non-refundable in the unlikely event one does need to cancel.
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Since June 15, 2017. New Cancellation Policy Welcome to the party.
Cancellation policy
Most of the major hotel chains adjusted their cancellation policy for flexible rates in 2017. Marriott’s current cancellation policy will continue to apply across all brands.
Flexible rates need to be canceled at least 48-hours prior to arrival to avoid a fee. However, the policy does vary at properties, including resorts, so you’ll want to check the policy for the specific hotel you’re booking.
Most of the major hotel chains adjusted their cancellation policy for flexible rates in 2017. Marriott’s current cancellation policy will continue to apply across all brands.
Flexible rates need to be canceled at least 48-hours prior to arrival to avoid a fee. However, the policy does vary at properties, including resorts, so you’ll want to check the policy for the specific hotel you’re booking.
EDIT: I found the Marriott announcement that says
Effective June 15, 2017, Marriott’s cancellation policy has been revised.
In an effort to better serve guests seeking last-minute accommodations, guests will now be required to cancel their room reservation 48-hours prior to arrival in order to avoid a fee. The revised cancellation policy will take effect on June 15, 2017 for reservations made on or after June 15, 2017.
In an effort to better serve guests seeking last-minute accommodations, guests will now be required to cancel their room reservation 48-hours prior to arrival in order to avoid a fee. The revised cancellation policy will take effect on June 15, 2017 for reservations made on or after June 15, 2017.
Last edited by CPRich; Feb 6, 2019 at 4:04 pm
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You may cancel your reservation for no charge until Wednesday, xxxx, 2019 (2 day[s] before arrival).
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I am seeing a 3 day policy for bookings in Los Angeles end of the month.
This is new. And obviously extremely customer unfriendly.
This is new. And obviously extremely customer unfriendly.