[Unconfirmed] rumor : Bonvoy titanium to get more benefits
#16
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I think in the long run we will see a cut to the benefits of Platinum Elite. Especially as going forward it is the max lifetime level so cutting benefits to that level has the biggest impact on costs
#17
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Substantive change - walking back the promise to have the "better" legacy Starwood award availability, returning to the faux-Marriott-no blackout dates standard.
#18
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Well for that matter, gold has been more valuable than platinum for most of the last decade but platinum is still a higher level in almost all loyalty programs.
#20
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...13-2019-a.html
#21
Join Date: Aug 2018
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Marriott has made numerous changes to the T&C of the loyalty program since the new program was announced August 18, 2018, with absolutely no notice whatsoever. Some of those changes have watered down the benefits. Why do you believe "If there were program changes coming that soon, they would have been announced by now"?
In fact, I believe Marriott hasnt yet announced the benefits table applicable to the new tiers. A draft version circulated on some blogs, but I havent seen any official version. Theres definitely room for one or two surprises there (not saying there will be any, though).
#22
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
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To be fair, if someone launched a new loyalty program and the levels were gold, silver, titanium, and platinum, would you know what order they go in? I know I wouldn't. I don't understand why no loyalty program seems to use the bronze, silver, gold levels that everyone already understands.
#23
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I don't know what this comes from but someone told me that premium platinum(AKA the titanium in the Bonvoy) will get complimentary breakfast in the Ritz-Carlton properties after the new program name have been activated and guaranteed for the suite upgrade if available in all of Marriott properties.
#24
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You get suite upgrades if available.
SNAs clear (up to) 5 days in advance (in theory), not at time of arrival/check-in.
#25
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For example, I was at a legacy SPG property on Saturday with several suites, they would upgrade me to a One Bedroom Suite for $200, even though I am PPE+A and a repeat guest at the property.
In the legacy Marriott world, pre 8/18, many (but not all) legacy Marriott properties prioritized legacy Plat Premier guests (a very different level than the current PPE) for suite upgrades and I was often upgraded to nice suites before arrival.
I'm hoping that the new levels which are easier to distinguish will return to the pre 8/18 days of identifying the best customers and prioritizing them before arrival.
#27
Join Date: Jul 2018
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It is lovely to read these speculations. Frankly, if Marriott wanted to up the benefits for Titanium members they should announce this ASAP, because I am largely booking away from RCs due to the lack of benefits. Sometimes if I can get a good FHR rate I might book an RC, but not otherwise. So, wishful thinking for now. If Marriott makes this change, it will be welcome and likely bring them more business.
before i know, before I start to run quicker...
#28
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Now being an Ambassador level benefit would make sense and drive spend to Marriott. Better yet give RC Lounge access to Ambassadors. Something like that would change my habits.
#29
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Much more important, it seems to me, is what they're going to call it when they need a level above titanium? Sort of like ATC, -- widebodies are "heavy"; 380s are "super." What will they call it when someone builds an exponentially larger plane? (Yes, I'm intentionally ignoring the fact that market conditions wouldn't support a plane generationally larger than the 380.) "Giganto"? Nah, too many syllables and it doesn't roll off the tongue smoothly. IIRC Concorde had no such special designation in ATC communications.
And why titanium? It's much less costly than platinum. In fact, titanium is often used as a substitute for platinum in rings because it looks more or less the same and is so much easier on the wallet.
And why titanium? It's much less costly than platinum. In fact, titanium is often used as a substitute for platinum in rings because it looks more or less the same and is so much easier on the wallet.