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X-ON Jan 16, 2019 1:57 pm

Did anybody else notice that the lurkers went silence on the # year counter ... probably its an IT mess and nobody knows whats what .... I really hope my 10th year will post soon ....btw who really cares about the name its the substance of the program that really matters ...

CCIE_Flyer Jan 16, 2019 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by hotelboy (Post 30663002)
I dont understand the hate around the name? Is the name change really going to keep you from staying?

Some have made such outlandish claims in other related threads. But when a presumably full-grown adult throws a tantrum over a loyalty program name, a certain visual is painted (at least for me). Likely those refusing to stay with Marriott over Bonvoy are the type to melt down over the alarm clock in their room running a minute slow, etc - so good riddance is likely the attitude internal to Marriott.

CCIE_Flyer Jan 16, 2019 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by X-ON (Post 30663050)
Did anybody else notice that the lurkers went silence on the # year counter ... probably its an IT mess and nobody knows whats what .... I really hope my 10th year will post soon ....

Yes, I specifically posed a question regarding this earlier today. Thus far no response, which may or may not be telling - it’s too early to tell! ;-)

I honestly have no idea what the true count for me should be (I suppose none of us does given the proprietary nature of the equation). I can afford to not be incremented for 2018; I also can afford to lose a couple of years and still qualify LTTE. But somehow that doesn’t placate me completely (call it a lack of confidence in Marriott IT), and hence the question. Hopefully at some point soon Marriott will be willing to come out and say that no more scripts/sweeps will be ran that will impact LT years one way or the other - they seem to be OK saying this about nights (although there’ve been recent reports of LT nights credit moving erratically, e.g. nights going down following a stay).

CPRich Jan 16, 2019 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by hockeyinsider (Post 30661479)
Is it only me or does the Marriott-released video promoting Bonvoy mispronounce Marriott? It pronounces Marriott as "merri-yacht" whereas I've always understood -- and heard Marriott corporate -- pronounce it as "merry-itt"

First 10 seconds, from the EVP of Corporate Communications.

Cledaybuck Jan 16, 2019 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by bhrubin (Post 30662357)
One wonders if those complaining about Bonvoy are those who also complain that the Marriott terms and conditions don’t literally and explicitly spell out every possibility for every possible scenario they can imagine. Obsessive compulsive, perhaps?

How about spell it out for the common scenarios. Like what time do I have to cancel my room by in order to not be charged?

Starwood Lurker Jan 16, 2019 2:15 pm


Originally Posted by X-ON
Did anybody else notice that the lurkers went silence on the # year counter ... probably its an IT mess and nobody knows whats what .... I really hope my 10th year will post soon ....btw who really cares about the name its the substance of the program that really matters ...


Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer (Post 30663088)


Yes, I specifically posed a question regarding this earlier today. Thus far no response, which may or may not be telling - it’s too early to tell! ;-)

I honestly have no idea what the true count for me should be (I suppose none of us does given the proprietary nature of the equation). I can afford to not be incremented for 2018; I also can afford to lose a couple of years and still qualify LTTE. But somehow that doesn’t placate me completely (call it a lack of confidence in Marriott IT), and hence the question. Hopefully at some point soon Marriott will be willing to come out and say that no more scripts/sweeps will be ran that will impact LT years one way or the other - they seem to be OK saying this about nights (although there’ve been recent reports of LT nights credit moving erratically, e.g. nights going down following a stay).

I've noticed that those questions have nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread, so they will not be discussed here. If anyone needs to be reminded that once the loyalty team has completed their year-end true-up that you will be notified where you stand via email, let's find another thread to discuss that.

TIA

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

[email protected]

X-ON Jan 16, 2019 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer (Post 30663088)


Yes, I specifically posed a question regarding this earlier today. Thus far no response, which may or may not be telling - it’s too early to tell! ;-)

I honestly have no idea what the true count for me should be (I suppose none of us does given the proprietary nature of the equation). I can afford to not be incremented for 2018; I also can afford to lose a couple of years and still qualify LTTE. But somehow that doesn’t placate me completely (call it a lack of confidence in Marriott IT), and hence the question. Hopefully at some point soon Marriott will be willing to come out and say that no more scripts/sweeps will be ran that will impact LT years one way or the other - they seem to be OK saying this about nights (although there’ve been recent reports of LT nights credit moving erratically, e.g. nights going down following a stay).

I would suspect the biggest problem lies with the numerous ways you could qualify for a status year during 2018. Maybe I am naive but 6M+ after combing my accounts I would expect the year counter to reflect a signed off number with respect to activity before 2018.

azepine00 Jan 16, 2019 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by damon88 (Post 30662505)



Great point!

Your list can go on and on- Google, Uber, Amazon, Taser, Xerox, Frisbee, Velcro etc. Made up or borrowed words that became meaningful through usage.

Google did not rename itself "Shnopper" after acquiring youtube - they were intelligent enough to keep well recognizable brand names... the decisions to scrap marriott rewards or hyatt gold passport branding seem very questionable to me...

Okto Jan 16, 2019 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by azepine00 (Post 30663248)
Google did not rename itself "Shnopper" after acquiring youtube - they were intelligent enough to keep well recognizable brand names...

No, but in 2015 it re-structured itself into something called Alphabet, a name that hardly anybody uses or recognizes.


the decisions to scrap marriott rewards or hyatt gold passport branding seem very questionable to me...
I can't understand it either.

wanderlust99 Jan 16, 2019 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 30663104)
First 10 seconds, from the EVP of Corporate Communications.
https://youtu.be/rT1uvvNRqYI

Some of us actually do pronounce it "merri-yacht". Always have, always will. (And I'd consider saying it "merry-itt" incorrect.) I guess we should put it in the "ta-may-toe/to-mah-toe" category and agree to disagree. :)

bhrubin Jan 16, 2019 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by Cledaybuck (Post 30663111)
How about spell it out for the common scenarios. Like what time do I have to cancel my room by in order to not be charged?

That isn’t so common. Placing such an operational distinction in the program terms and conditions makes no sense to me...especially because there are different rates, different hotels, and sometimes different elite status that sometimes gave have cancel windows.

A business doesn’t want to pin itself down needlessly. Especially since every single rate on Marriott.com and every hotel confirmation spells out that information, anyway.

Horace Jan 16, 2019 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingBeanCounter (Post 30663003)
The LTPPE was 750 nights and 10 years. the LTPP was 500 nights and 10 years.

There are differences - however slight. You note them. There are more points awarded, and slightly better options for reservations and what not.

Again - if these don't matter, why not demote all the LTPPE to LTPP? There is no difference, right? It shouldn't matter at all?

I don't understand this post.

The levels in Marriott's loyalty program since August 18, 2018, have been:

Member
Silver Elite
Gold Elite
Platinum Elite
Platinum Premier Elite (becoming Titanium Elite on February 13, 2019)
Platinum Premier Elite with Ambassador (becoming Ambassador Elite on February 13, 2019)

The lifetime levels since August 18, 2018, have been:

Lifetime Silver Elite
Lifetime Gold Elite
Lifetime Platinum Elite
Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite (becoming Lifetime Titanium Elite on February 13, 2019)

Here on FlyerTalk, people tend to leave off "Elite" when writing about the levels.

That means LTPPE and LTPP are same thing, just different abbreviations.

Adelphos Jan 16, 2019 3:32 pm

Will the Starwood credit cards be rebranded as well?

CCIE_Flyer Jan 16, 2019 4:14 pm


Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker (Post 30663117)
I've noticed that those questions have nothing to do with the subject matter of the thread, so they will not be discussed here. If anyone needs to be reminded that once the loyalty team has completed their year-end true-up that you will be notified where you stand via email, let's find another thread to discuss that.

TIA

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

[email protected]

William,

I’ve always appreciated your refreshing testiness - until just now! ;-)

Let’s break this down:

1. Your above quoted dialog was between one FT member and another:

2. My question earlier posed (and in a reasonably respecful fashion, I believe) to the other Lurker - the actual question you or someone from your team would ideally have been responding to in my view - was direcly in response to something a Lurker had posted earlier today; I did not bring this topic into the thread to begin with - one of your colleagues did, kind sir. Namely, a claim was made (or perhaps repeated - I’m not sure which) regarding Marriott’s level of confidence in LT nights - notably absent was any reference to Marriotts’s confidence in LT year count. That seems a legitimate and reasonable follow-up question since nights only addresses half of the non-legacy LTTE equation, no?

Respectfully - and thank you all, Lurkers. And congratulations on what I regard to be a significant positive accomplishment here today on the part of Marriott.

Eastbay1K Jan 16, 2019 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by Adelphos (Post 30663448)
Will the Starwood credit cards be rebranded as well?

Yes. BonWood Formerly Preferred Guest.


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