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Manhattan (NYC) Marriott Bonvoy Hotels Closed Permanently During COVID-19 Pandemic

The following hotels may be discussed in this thread however each property has indicated it closed during the COVID-19 pandemic and will not reopen.
  • Courtyard Herald Square
  • Courtyard 5th Avenue
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  • The Maxwell
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Old Jan 3, 19, 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by Ksw299 View Post
The OP is only looking at Cat 4 hotels and only the hotels listed in the original post match the criteria.
Yes but OP also wants a lounge and/or good breakfast, so I'm trying to think of the best alternatives. "Looking to redeem" a travel package could mean that a category 5 travel package could be ordered instead if the OP decides that it's worth spending the additional points.
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Originally Posted by Ksw299 View Post
None of the above listed hotels have lounges as they are select / long term stay brands. Downtown area is actually pretty nice with Battery Park, Statue of Liberty within walking distance of the hotels. I have actually stayed at the Fairfield Inn Financial District and I would rather avoid it. The rooms are extremely small and the breakfast is just ok. Aloft breakfasts might actually be nice - I have never stayed at one but the locations listed - both Brooklyn and Long Island City will require a fair amount of commute to get into midtown area.

When you are staying 7 nights commuting back and forth will eat a lot of your time. NYC is kind of food heaven - you will find nice breakfast spots almost everywhere in the city. Stay atleast in the downtown area - the Residence Inn might not actually be a bad choice - I have not stayed at this particular one but I have stayed at other residence inns and the breakfast is actually better than a Courtyard or a fairfield.
Man, that really helped. Especially in managing my expectations about lounges. haha. looks like Residence Inn WTC is the best choice for me!

Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
Yes but OP also wants a lounge and/or good breakfast, so I'm trying to think of the best alternatives. "Looking to redeem" a travel package could mean that a category 5 travel package could be ordered instead if the OP decides that it's worth spending the additional points.
Thanks buddy. I actually got the old travel package (Cat 1-5) before the devaluation. That limits my option to Cat 1-4 now.
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Originally Posted by nunogomes View Post
I'm looking to redeem my Marriott travel package for 7 nights in NYC. I am a Marriott Platinum. Coming from Asia, I've read that breakfast 'buffets' are forgettable at 'lower' brands in North America. Should I even consider the kind of breakfast these hotels provide to Platinum members? What about lounge access? I have shortlisted the hotels below. Any input will be a great help, thank you!

Fairfield Inn & Suites New York Manhattan/Downtown East
Courtyard New York Downtown Manhattan/World Trade Center Area
AC Hotel New York Downtown
Fairfield Inn New York Manhattan/Financial District
Fairfield Inn & Suites New York Downtown Manhattan/World Trade Center Area
Moxy NYC Downtown
Residence Inn New York Downtown Manhattan/World Trade Center Area
AC Hotel New York Downtown
Courtyard Long Island City/New York Manhattan View
Aloft Long Island City-Manhattan View
Fairfield Inn & Suites New York Queens/Queensboro Bridge
Aloft New York Brooklyn
When I went to the Courtyard New York Downtown Manhattan/World Trade Center Area in Nov 2018 I was pleasantly surprised they provided a free buffet breakfast for platinum members + a guest (a small selection consisting of coffee, scrambled eggs, a hot meat, potatoes, yogurt, and breads - I suppose this is probably what you consider "forgettable" though - It's similar to what you would find at the Fairfield and Residence Inn properties on your list), and a discounted breakfast buffet price for gold and silver members. While they don't have a lounge, in the sky lobby/bistro area did have a fridge stocked with free water bottles and free coffee/tea and candy and snacks for all Marriott Rewards members. This was in addition to the regular Courtyard benefit of a $10 F&B amenity or welcome points.
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I have a couple of NYC trips this week. I've stayed in a lot of NYC properties and not a fan of most.

Any thoughts on the best options in midtown now (other than St.Regis/RC/LC as well as the limited service segment). I suppose the main factor is upgrade for PPE+A plus destination fee (which I guess can't be avoided)

I like the Edition ... but rates are sometimes too high to expense
I like the Renn Midtown and JW Essex
Renn Times Square is tolerable
The Autographs/Marriott East Side/Renn 57 are poor. The Sheratons have a bad rep on here.

Thoughts on the W Union Square?

And wouldn't it be nice if Marriott.com only showed properties in Manhattan ... but that's a different thread
Am I missing any other properties?
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I'm not an extensive nyc traveler but over the years I think I have ran the gauntlet of the SPG properties there. If you sort by distance and filter properties 0-5 miles, you will get mostly Manhattan properties. Filtering by brand makes it easier also. A few opinions, ranked in no particular order:

1. Edition - Stayed there on nye this year and won't stay there ever again. It was my 2nd stay there over 2 years and both times the same mediocre experience. This time I didn't even have a single bottle of water in my room. Check-in feels like you are checking in for a doctors appointment. If you are platinum expect them to simply tell you they have the number on file instead of thanks for the loyalty (again, its like your MR number compares to an insurance card). I mean its not a bad hotel, but for the price, not even close to worth it. You can read my review here: https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUser...k.html?m=19905

2. W Union Square - Legit place, treated pretty well despite no upgrade. The room I got hadn't been cleaned at all, looked like a party had taken place (i took the bottle of red wine from the mini bar as compensation haha). They gave me a new one immediately. This W doesn't feel like a W at all to be honest. Lots of whites and tans and brighter colors. People say its the best W in nyc but I think that's just because it doesn't feel like a W. Its only a few blocks away from the Edition and I think if that is the area and type of hotel you want, hands down choose Union Square W over Edition.

3. Renn Midtown - I've only stayed here once and right when they opened. I was only a gold member and they upgraded my room. the lounge was closed so they gave me $50 to use in the restaurant, which was cool. The restaurant is probably the best "rooftop" bar in midtown (of course the bar isnt set high) but its my understanding that its frequented by a lot of locals. Its supposed to be technologically advanced but I didn't notice anything beyond the confusing elevators, which they also have at Edition.

4. Sheraton Tribeca - Its a zoo full of tourists but its not bad for a Sheraton. Free wine and beer in the lounge at night. My expectations are generally low for Sheratons, but this one is generally cheap and in a good location.

5. Element Times Square West - I think this place is the diamond in the rough. Despite the policy of no upgrades I got one anyway, along with a welcome gift. They had free wine at night too and a free breakfast that was beyond legit also. Plus its far away enough from Times Square. This would honestly be my vote if the rate is cheap. By far the nicest rooms. I think its a newer hotel. Only con is their elevators, I think they only have 2 or 3.

6. Westin Grand Central - Seems like a standard Westin, pretty large though. I think I would have gotten an upgrade if I didn't actually require 2 beds.

7. The Maxwell. This used to be the original W but I think it got beat down so much in reviews that they decided they didn't want the W name associated with it. Don't get me wrong, the rooms are kind of rundown (mine once had what I *hope* was a wine stain on the carpet), but I think it has been overblown. I think with the name change and bad reviews they have put in the effort to improve the service. I have also noticed their rates have gone down also. Seems like almost all of their rooms are available so good chance of an upgrade. Might be worth it to not book the cheapest room here though just in case the stars don't align. The cozy room looks like a jail cell.

8. W Times Square. Probably what I consider the best W in NY, but neck and neck with the W downtown. The real con with this place is that it is literally in times square. Tons of people around and the uber drivers always get confused (probably because they are used to throngs of clueless people ordering ubers around there). But go up into the elevators and its like you just went from mayhem to luxury. Cool lobby, and is quiet. My ny friends made fun of me for staying there and were mad they had to come to Times Square but they were also up in my room taking a million photos out of the windows. Id recommend this place if the rate is good.
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Originally Posted by nunogomes View Post
Man, that really helped. Especially in managing my expectations about lounges. haha. looks like Residence Inn WTC is the best choice for me!



Thanks buddy. I actually got the old travel package (Cat 1-5) before the devaluation. That limits my option to Cat 1-4 now.
To be honest if free breakfast is the qualifier your best bet will be Fairfield Inn & Suites New York Manhattan/Downtown East. Almost in the Lower East Side and next to the Manhattan Bridge. The location is much much better. When you stay downtown you are so far away from everything. After you have seen the 9/11 memorial, statue of liberty, and the raging bull, then you can expect very long subway rides/uber/ taxi/whatever. There isn't a whole lot going on down in the financial district.

If you are willing to forgo the free breakfast, I think it would be worth considering the Aloft Long Island City-Manhattan View. Newer hotel, and i like the alofts. The view looks amazing too.
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I'll be in NYC for about two weeks and would like to book something in Chelsea. Which would you choose between the Fairfield Inn, Four Points, Courtyard, and the upcoming Moxy? Will probably split my stay between two of these in case I really don't like one. Else, may split between one of these and Hyatt House or another property you might recommend nearby in the same price range - looking to stay between 22nd-30th Street and Park-7th Ave.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by nsummy View Post
I'm not an extensive nyc traveler but over the years I think I have ran the gauntlet of the SPG properties there. If you sort by distance and filter properties 0-5 miles, you will get mostly Manhattan properties. Filtering by brand makes it easier also. A few opinions, ranked in no particular order:


2. W Union Square - Legit place, treated pretty well despite no upgrade. The room I got hadn't been cleaned at all, looked like a party had taken place (i took the bottle of red wine from the mini bar as compensation haha). They gave me a new one immediately. This W doesn't feel like a W at all to be honest. Lots of whites and tans and brighter colors. People say its the best W in nyc but I think that's just because it doesn't feel like a W. Its only a few blocks away from the Edition and I think if that is the area and type of hotel you want, hands down choose Union Square W over Edition.


8. W Times Square. Probably what I consider the best W in NY, but neck and neck with the W downtown. The real con with this place is that it is literally in times square. Tons of people around and the uber drivers always get confused (probably because they are used to throngs of clueless people ordering ubers around there). But go up into the elevators and its like you just went from mayhem to luxury. Cool lobby, and is quiet. My ny friends made fun of me for staying there and were mad they had to come to Times Square but they were also up in my room taking a million photos out of the windows. Id recommend this place if the rate is good.

Thanks!

For my next stay, the W Times Square and W Union Square are basically the same rate. I'm working in midtown so Times Square is sort of more convenient but ... its Times Square ... and Union Square is more interesting.

Any thoughts on which hotel treats PPE/Ambassador's better in terms of upgrades, etc.? I suppose they both have the destination fee but don't know if they are different.

I suppose I go with the Maxwell (I've stayed in it when it was a W) but the reviews are so bad!
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Old Jan 16, 19, 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR View Post
I have a couple of NYC trips this week. I've stayed in a lot of NYC properties and not a fan of most.

Any thoughts on the best options in midtown now (other than St.Regis/RC/LC as well as the limited service segment). I suppose the main factor is upgrade for PPE+A plus destination fee (which I guess can't be avoided)

I like the Edition ... but rates are sometimes too high to expense
I like the Renn Midtown and JW Essex
Renn Times Square is tolerable
The Autographs/Marriott East Side/Renn 57 are poor. The Sheratons have a bad rep on here.

Thoughts on the W Union Square?

And wouldn't it be nice if Marriott.com only showed properties in Manhattan ... but that's a different thread
Am I missing any other properties?
Stayed at the Renn Times Square last weekend, and thought it was pretty good. No Exec Lounge, but free breakfast for Platinum, (plus wife/daughters) which was pretty good. First time staying on the square, since we were seeing some shows. Yes, it's kind of a zoo, but it was still pretty fun.
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I have been consistently staying at the Sheraton Tribeca.....It is a busy tourist business hotel....I'm an ambassador bla bla and I rarely get any upgrades here, and they only have 1 suite. That said, you can book their king bedded room with a couch.....which is about 425 square feet with higher floors looking at the river.....These rooms normally sell in winter for $200-$240 per night....NO DESTINATION fee. Location 4 blocks from China town.....1 block from the heart of Soho.....its on an unfortunate street....Canal street near a tunnel entrance....However right next door to a 24 hour convenience store for water, sandwiches, bananas etc. Club lounge is far too small......but doable. Many fabulous restaurants in 3 blocks walking distance.....AND the ladies at the bar make a mean Martini Cheers! PS...in Spring,Fall and summer the rooftop club lounge space is fantastic.
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I've stayed at a bunch of the NYC-area Marriotts. It's one of the city with poorest representation in Starriott. There are no standouts, and nothing that can be had at a reasonable price. I have never stayed at the only two hotels in NYC that seem nice: the St. Regis and the Chatwell, because they are never reasonably priced (unlike many high-end Hyatts like the Andaz on 5th). Here are quick reviews of all the NYC area hotels I've stayed at w/ Marriott:

- Four Points Downtown: awful
- W Downtown: decent, but bad location, and a bit old looking
- W Times Square: dilapidated
- Maxwell: dreadful, falling apart, minuscule rooms
- AC Times Square: great restaurant, ok rooftop bar, basic decent room
- Moxy Times Square: tiny rooms, a bit too "corporate hip" but can be alright value in a pinch. sceny. decent bar / public spaces. fund design
- Sheraton Tribeca: old, messy, feels cheap. rooftop lounge has annoying service and bad offerings, but good views from the outdoor deck
- Sheraton Times Square: abomination
- Westin Times Square: 10x abomination 2.0. one of the worst breakfast offerings
- Aloft Long Island City: good value, cheap, basic, but joke of a breakfast. location is surprisingly convenient, very well connected for being across the east river
- Lexington Hotel: bad, tiny rooms, lousy bar, half of F&B shut down for reasons
- W Hoboken: usually pricey, but nice modern rooms and good views of manhattan. good breakfast. solid bar. annoying NJ crowds. the only W in NYC that doesn't look like it needs a refresh. annoying to cross the hudson, but not a bad place to stay when the price is good and you're flying in/out of EWR


That's all I can think of right now, thought I'm sure there others, and every Manhattan Hyatt.
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Old Jan 16, 19, 11:53 pm
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There had been an element property in midtown--it's about ten years old--but I suspect it's higher than a category 4.
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5. Element Times Square West - I think this place is the diamond in the rough. Despite the policy of no upgrades I got one anyway, along with a welcome gift. They had free wine at night too and a free breakfast that was beyond legit also. Plus its far away enough from Times Square. This would honestly be my vote if the rate is cheap. By far the nicest rooms. I think its a newer hotel. Only con is their elevators, I think they only have 2 or 3.

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I've stayed here 4-5x over the years. It's been abused badly and plays like a 30-year-old dump more than a 10-year-old.

If the rooms were free, I'd stay there again. But that's my max price.
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Old Jan 17, 19, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by helvetic View Post
I've stayed at a bunch of the NYC-area Marriotts. It's one of the city with poorest representation in Starriott. There are no standouts, and nothing that can be had at a reasonable price. I have never stayed at the only two hotels in NYC that seem nice: the St. Regis and the Chatwell, because they are never reasonably priced (unlike many high-end Hyatts like the Andaz on 5th). Here are quick reviews of all the NYC area hotels I've stayed at w/ Marriott:

- Four Points Downtown: awful
- W Downtown: decent, but bad location, and a bit old looking
- W Times Square: dilapidated
- Maxwell: dreadful, falling apart, minuscule rooms
- AC Times Square: great restaurant, ok rooftop bar, basic decent room
- Moxy Times Square: tiny rooms, a bit too "corporate hip" but can be alright value in a pinch. sceny. decent bar / public spaces. fund design
- Sheraton Tribeca: old, messy, feels cheap. rooftop lounge has annoying service and bad offerings, but good views from the outdoor deck
- Sheraton Times Square: abomination
- Westin Times Square: 10x abomination 2.0. one of the worst breakfast offerings
- Aloft Long Island City: good value, cheap, basic, but joke of a breakfast. location is surprisingly convenient, very well connected for being across the east river
- Lexington Hotel: bad, tiny rooms, lousy bar, half of F&B shut down for… reasons
- W Hoboken: usually pricey, but nice modern rooms and good views of manhattan. good breakfast. solid bar. annoying NJ crowds. the only W in NYC that doesn't look like it needs a refresh. annoying to cross the hudson, but not a bad place to stay when the price is good and you're flying in/out of EWR


That's all I can think of right now, thought I'm sure there others, and every Manhattan Hyatt.
Boy based on these comments I hope you don't stay with MR/SPG much in NYC!

For me:
Sheraton Times Square - going downhill fast and the downstairs lounge situation is not optimal. Ok for one night at the right price if you want to be in that area.
Westin TS - rooms are starting to show their age and in need of a reno. The Platinum breakfast in the downstairs restaurant is a zoo.
W TS - I used to really like this hotel but I think a refresh of the rooms is needed.
Maxwell - would tend to agree that it is not my top choice in the city due to the run down and tiny rooms. I would consider it depending on the price.
Four Points Sheraton Times Square - a functional option in the city that sometimes has some really good prices. Rooms are starting to show their age and they are not huge but for a night or two it works.
The Lexington - used to have some of the best rates in the city but they have increased the price IMHO. Rooms can be tiny and I think the most recent reno is like lipstick on a pig.
Marriott Marquis - I HATE this hotel! To be honest it was the hotel that made me switch my loyalty from MR to SPG years ago.
Element Times Square - the WORST elevators in the city! If you don't have 30 minutes to make it down from your room floor do NOT stay here. Breakfast is horrible!
Four Points Sheraton Chelsea - a functional hotel at the right price
Sheraton Tribeca - felt like a Four Points to me due to the room layout and size. Did not like the location.
Four Points Sheraton Long Island City - decent option but I had a horrible stay since they put me in a suite below a huge party that went on far into the night. Area not the best if you want to venture out of hotel and not many food options.
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I try to avoid Starriott in NYC when I can. I think it has the worst offering relative to the city average anywhere in the world. It's absurd how low the standards are across every area property.

I try to stay with Hyatt in NYC, where all hotels are decent. Here's how I compare them:

- Park Hyatt - amazing, but only worth it on redemption
- Andaz 5th - a hidden gem. amazing hotel, easily as good as the PH (better breakfast offering), but can be reasonably priced sometimes. I've stayed here <$200.
- Andaz Wall St - bad location, but entirely fine hotel
- Hyatt House Chelsea - have stayed here MANY times, cheap and perfectly nice with a convenient location. almost always upgraded me to a suite. in-room laundry and kitchen
- Hyatt Centric - good atmosphere, breakfast, rooftop bar. hard to get an upgrade, and closer than i'd like, but nice decent sized room even at the base level
- Hyatt Union Square - great location, great bar, solid breakfast, got a ridiculous suite upgrade here. tends to be pricey

The only 3 NYC Hyatts I don't like are:
- Hyatt Place - mediocre, forgettable
- Hyatt Herald Square - tiny tiny rooms
- Grand Hyatt - awful, I HATE this place. massively packed, meh lounge with paid drinks. good location, but i usually go for the Andaz despite this. i don't like the front desk lines, i don't like the nickel and dimeing on every service (like holding a suitcase or printing). i don't like the conference crowds. i don't like that they refuse to put water bottles in the room out of cheapness. i don't like that it was developed by donald trump. i don't like the views. the only redeeming quality of this awful hotel is the location and occasionally cheap prices. never received a suite upgrad

Still, these are still better than most Starriotts in my list.
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Boy based on these comments I hope you don't stay with MR/SPG much in NYC!
Of all the places I regularly travel, NYC is the only place I don't have a definite go to hotel.

So, from my read of this thread and my personal experience, the only premium/luxury properties people don't really dislike are

1, JW Essex
2. Renn Times Square (it does have a lounge on the second floor overlooking Times Square)
3. Renn Midtown

And ... I'm going to try the W Union Square which doesn't have much feedback here. I'm not counting the St.R or RC which often charge far higher or the CY/Element/FP/FI/RI that I'll generally avoid.

Now ... if there was a NYC property that would deliver the program benefits as intended .....
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