Absurd.
Will get my 50 nights via combination of things this year to get to 10 years of Plat for LTP (and because I've already got 36 nights on the books with the 15 CC nights) but anticipate a move to Hilton for the foreseeable future until Marriott gets their act together. |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 30755867)
But I find it hard to call it a massacre when 95+% had no change.
Originally Posted by Duke787
(Post 30756244)
Will get my 50 nights via combination of things this year to get to 10 years of Plat for LTP (and because I've already got 36 nights on the books with the 15 CC nights) but anticipate a move to Hilton for the foreseeable future until Marriott gets their act together.
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Originally Posted by CosmicGirl
(Post 30755008)
I have a feeling that they're assigning categories mainly based on the area the property is in without any regard for its quality or lack thereof.
For me, no property I care about has changed, so it's a wash. I understand others are affected, but that's life. |
TPG's Nick Ewan has an excellent guide, which explains what's really go on here. Marriott 2019 Category Changes. He notes that Cat 5 sees a net loss of 69 properties.
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I don't care. Imma fill up the year with multiple concurrent speculative reservations for multiple dates for any property going up in category that I think I might want to go to within the next 13 months !
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I was under the impression RC Tokyo and RC Kyoto were going to go from category 7 to 8, but neither of them are on that list.
Are they remaining category 7? |
Originally Posted by THR
(Post 30756464)
I was under the impression RC Tokyo and RC Kyoto were going to go from category 7 to 8, but neither of them are on that list.
Are they remaining category 7? |
Originally Posted by CardMaster
(Post 30756392)
I don't care. Imma fill up the year with multiple concurrent speculative reservations for multiple dates for any property going up in category that I think I might want to go to within the next 13 months !
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Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 30755908)
fwiw, of all the properties I redeemed at in Peru, Spain, Greece, France, Australia and Hawaii on vacations over the last 4 years, not a single one was impacted.
(Aloft Cleveland airport?) As long as our points last, we travel based on solid value. We are traveling to Venice solely for the Gritti Palace. We are staying in Singapore for 48 hours at the Marriott South Beach because we could lock in at 35k. Sure, places are going up, but I'll just look a bit harder for the value. Some definitely disappoint, and I am sorry for those deeply impacted, but I will adjust I am confused about Vienna now though .. Imperial Riding School Renaissance dropping to 25k again has me tempted to save some points... |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 30755908)
I always find Hawaii to be an interesting proxy. I find it hard to believe that of 34 properties, many of us find two Sheratons, one Residence Inn, one Courtyard, and one Autograph to be what everyone is striving for, and devastated that they are going up. No one wants to stay in RC, Westins, LC's, and Marriotts? ?
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OK--I have been loyal Marriott for 16 years. LTPP. What other brand would you suggest I look now to spread the love a bit. I am getting tired of this. Some chain with a challenge or status match would be great. I stay at mid to upper level properties normally. About 80 nights/year.
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Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 30755932)
I gotta admit, that is not the most reassuring answer. Not only that is not reassuring with the past practice, the NEW LANGUAGES are Very Alarming. I suggest everyone care about making future bookings, READ this TPG write up and the highlighted part at the end of the article. The writer has reached out to Marriott for clarification - so any reply from Marriott to make things clear, should be of interests to most people - except for those who think since less than 5% have gone up, it does not matter...
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 30755966)
I stayed at Koloa Landing last summer for 40,000 pts./night. This summer it will cost 60,000.
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 30756267)
Meaningless statistic. I really don't care that the Fairfield Inn Topeka stayed at a 3. But I do care about the increases at Ren Republique, the Bangkok properties, the NYC properties, etc.
The fact remains, it is outsize category adjusted UPWARD. from the pool of the new carrots, ah, the 35K FN certs from the credit cards that Marriot / Chase / AMEX push. Who care about the remaining 6300 properties that dont go up when your 35K FN cert suddenly lost 50% of more options in NYC? The properties in HKG and SIN also once again, go up. W HK being a Cat 8 is beyond being ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 30756339)
TPG's Nick Ewan has an excellent guide, which explains what's really go on here. Marriott 2019 Category Changes. He notes that Cat 5 sees a net loss of 69 properties.
Here is the gist and everyone SHOULD PAY ATTENTION to the NEW LANGUAGES found on the announcement - Possible Points Advance ImplicationsThere’s another (potential) issue with these problems. Marriott included the following information when they emailed us about the upcoming changes (emphasis mine):“Points Advance — Members can book stays when they do not have enough points if they earn or purchase the needed points at least 14 days prior to check-in. Members who wish to book a points advance redemption under the current Marriott Rewards and SPG award chart are encouraged to order redemption certificates before March 5 to lock in the rate. On March 5, redemption bookings are subject to the new unified program award chart.”We’ve reached out to Marriott to confirm the practical implications of this verbiage, as it sounds like Points Advance reservations will revert to the new pricing if they don’t have certificates attached prior to March 5. This would be a tremendously negative change, though again, we don’t yet know for sure that it will work in this way. We’ll be sure to provide an update as soon as we have confirmation from Marriott. So Let's hope Nick would get a clarification from Marriott, then we will know if this is yet ANOTHER TAKE AWAY of a very useful feature of the program. |
Originally Posted by Mr. Vker
(Post 30757746)
OK--I have been loyal Marriott for 16 years. LTPP. What other brand would you suggest I look now to spread the love a bit. I am getting tired of this. Some chain with a challenge or status match would be great. I stay at mid to upper level properties normally. About 80 nights/year.
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Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 30758251)
it is outsize category adjusted UPWARD. from the pool of the new carrots, ah, the 35K FN certs from the credit cards that Marriot / Chase / AMEX push. Who care about the remaining 6300 properties that dont go up when your 35K FN cert suddenly lost 50% of more options in NYC? The properties in HKG and SIN also once again, go up.
Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 30758251)
W HK being a Cat 8 is beyond being ridiculous.
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Net 69 properties went from category 5 to 6. All 4 of my CC certs properties took the hit. That's a 100% for me. Next, peak pricing will be the final nail in CC certs coffin. Bonvoyage Marriott.😚
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