Peak and off peak Awards (General Discussion)
Mar 31, 2019, 8:26 pm
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Apr 1, 2019, 8:34 am
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The long it takes them to implement this the better... since it is going to be nothing but additional point inflation and more functionality/IT nightmares.
May 14, 2019, 6:56 am
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When does Peak/Off-Peak Pricing Start
I know they have shifted the categories but has anyone heard if they are sticking to the new pricing for points? TIA
Jul 2, 2019, 1:33 pm
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Has anyone heard anything (even rumors 
) when this may kick in? And will there be any advance notice?
) when this may kick in? And will there be any advance notice?
Jul 8, 2019, 1:14 am
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I was browsing for award availability & saw that a peak, standard, and off peak chart is available on the Marriott website although there is no mention about when the peak/off-peak levels will kick in. Has anyone else seen this chart? I apologize if this has been discussed in another thread.
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Aug 11, 2019, 11:00 am
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Peak and off-peak pricing already in effect for hotel cash co-pays if the base level room is not available on points 
Aug 11, 2019, 5:03 pm
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For everyone of us who came from SPG, this whole peak and non-peak issue isn't new at all. There always were peak and regular rates for the higher category hotel awards at least (I rarely book awards at lower category hotels). And those peak rates for SPG awards still convert to MORE points than the Bonvoy peal rates will be.
So when they happen...from the SPG perspective, it still isn't a devaluation. Peak rates even for the new Cat 8 of 100K Bonvoy points STILL are less than the peak rate of 35K for SPG top Cat 7-- equivalent to 105K Bonvoy points.
Oops.
Please stop trying to pretend that this is a disaster. Bonvoy elites earn more points per stay at Bonvoy properties than we did under SPG...and the award prices are still lower even with peak rates than they were under SPG.
So when they happen...from the SPG perspective, it still isn't a devaluation. Peak rates even for the new Cat 8 of 100K Bonvoy points STILL are less than the peak rate of 35K for SPG top Cat 7-- equivalent to 105K Bonvoy points.
Oops.
Please stop trying to pretend that this is a disaster. Bonvoy elites earn more points per stay at Bonvoy properties than we did under SPG...and the award prices are still lower even with peak rates than they were under SPG.
Aug 15, 2019, 5:41 am
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Well we know the answer now of when PEAK awards will go into effect....Sept. 14!
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...m=BoardingArea
https://onemileatatime.com/marriott-...m=BoardingArea
Aug 15, 2019, 6:12 am
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COMING SEPTEMBER 14TH: Off-Peak and Peak Point Redemption Rates
Soon you’ll be able to redeem your points for free nights with the introduction of Off-Peak and Peak rates – adding to the current Standard redemption rates we have today.
Starting September 14, all 7,000+ hotels participating in the Marriott Bonvoy program will offer one of three redemption levels for free nights: Off-Peak, Standard or Peak rates. Our goal with the new award redemption chart is to maintain a fairly even distribution of Off-Peak and Peak rates throughout the year, with the majority of redemption rates remaining the Standard rate that they are today.
You can rest assured that any reservations booked with points made prior to September 14th will reserve the Standard redemption rate. If you need to change that reservation after September 14th, you’ll receive the available redemption rate when you rebook.
Watch this video to learn more.
Things to Know
Off-peak rates start at 5,000 points per night. Just like today, Standard redemption rates start at 7,500 points per night and will be our most common rate. Peak rates are capped at no more than 15,000 points higher than Standard when demand is high. TIP: Use the flexible date finder to identify the best available redemption rate if you have flexibility in travel dates.
Hotel categories aren’t changing. Each hotel will remain in its current category. Explore all 7,000 hotels and their categories here.
Enjoy the same redemption options. Under the new award redemption chart, members can still take advantage of Points Advance, Cash + Points, Travel Packages, PointSavers, Stay for 5 – Pay for 4 and more redemption benefits when booking. With Points Advance, you are reserving your room, but your rate will be subject to change until all required points are earned and is the points are attached to your reservation.
Find out more about our new award redemption chart.
Starting September 14, all 7,000+ hotels participating in the Marriott Bonvoy program will offer one of three redemption levels for free nights: Off-Peak, Standard or Peak rates. Our goal with the new award redemption chart is to maintain a fairly even distribution of Off-Peak and Peak rates throughout the year, with the majority of redemption rates remaining the Standard rate that they are today.
You can rest assured that any reservations booked with points made prior to September 14th will reserve the Standard redemption rate. If you need to change that reservation after September 14th, you’ll receive the available redemption rate when you rebook.
Watch this video to learn more.
Things to Know
Off-peak rates start at 5,000 points per night. Just like today, Standard redemption rates start at 7,500 points per night and will be our most common rate. Peak rates are capped at no more than 15,000 points higher than Standard when demand is high. TIP: Use the flexible date finder to identify the best available redemption rate if you have flexibility in travel dates.
Hotel categories aren’t changing. Each hotel will remain in its current category. Explore all 7,000 hotels and their categories here.
Enjoy the same redemption options. Under the new award redemption chart, members can still take advantage of Points Advance, Cash + Points, Travel Packages, PointSavers, Stay for 5 – Pay for 4 and more redemption benefits when booking. With Points Advance, you are reserving your room, but your rate will be subject to change until all required points are earned and is the points are attached to your reservation.
Find out more about our new award redemption chart.
Aug 15, 2019, 6:15 am
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Thanks for starting a new thread on this. I just posted it in the Peak (Non-Peak) thread but I was worried about getting in trouble for starting a new thread...I guess it's ok for you to do it.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31418431-post39.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31418431-post39.html
Aug 15, 2019, 6:19 am
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H/T to Gary at VFTW on some sneaky language:
Peak and Off Peak Dates Will Be Balanced
When Marriott first announced the new program Senior Vice President David Flueck told me, “We’ll make sure there’s a lot of equity in a market, in general roughly the same number of peak nights as off peak nights.”
They say that’s still true.. although there’s a qualifier. There will be more standard pricing dates than peak and off peak dates, with a fairly even distribution of peak and off peak, however that will only hold across the Marriott hotel portfolio as a whole and not necessarily for each individual property.
So - high demand / resort individual properties are more likely to have an imbalance of peak vs. off-peak
Peak and Off Peak Dates Will Be Balanced
When Marriott first announced the new program Senior Vice President David Flueck told me, “We’ll make sure there’s a lot of equity in a market, in general roughly the same number of peak nights as off peak nights.”
They say that’s still true.. although there’s a qualifier. There will be more standard pricing dates than peak and off peak dates, with a fairly even distribution of peak and off peak, however that will only hold across the Marriott hotel portfolio as a whole and not necessarily for each individual property.
So - high demand / resort individual properties are more likely to have an imbalance of peak vs. off-peak
Aug 15, 2019, 6:44 am
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Soon you’ll be able to redeem your points for free nights with the introduction of Off-Peak and Peak rates – adding to the current Standard redemption rates we have today.
Starting September 14, all 7,000+ hotels participating in the Marriott Bonvoy program will offer one of three redemption levels for free nights: Off-Peak, Standard or Peak rates. Our goal with the new award redemption chart is to maintain a fairly even distribution of Off-Peak and Peak rates throughout the year, with the majority of redemption rates remaining the Standard rate that they are today.
Starting September 14, all 7,000+ hotels participating in the Marriott Bonvoy program will offer one of three redemption levels for free nights: Off-Peak, Standard or Peak rates. Our goal with the new award redemption chart is to maintain a fairly even distribution of Off-Peak and Peak rates throughout the year, with the majority of redemption rates remaining the Standard rate that they are today.
Aug 15, 2019, 7:14 am
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@Marriott Bonvoy Lurker....Did we ever get clarification on how the 35k credit card nights were going to be handled with the Peak/Non-Peak award pricing?
Right now the 35k free night certificate gets you a Cat. 5....are we only getting a Cat. 4 for those certificates if the time we want to stay at a property is classified at PEAK moving forward? This would be a devaluation of the 35k certificates!
Right now the 35k free night certificate gets you a Cat. 5....are we only getting a Cat. 4 for those certificates if the time we want to stay at a property is classified at PEAK moving forward? This would be a devaluation of the 35k certificates!
Aug 15, 2019, 7:27 am
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Prepare for significant point inflation/devaluation with this... expect widespread peak along all coasts and cities, with off peak being at places like Siberia in winter.