Peak and off peak Awards (General Discussion)
Sep 14, 2019, 9:15 am
#346
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Not to worry I will HUCA to have my peak reservations adjusted as soon as possible. And even if unsuccessful, I heard about this change of how they adjust PA reservations so I made sure my reservations have a short notice cancellation policy (free cancellation up to 2 days before check-in) so I have all the time to wait to have my points/reservations adjusted
Sep 14, 2019, 9:22 am
#347
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Or at the time you redeem the points.
Sep 14, 2019, 9:26 am
#348
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When you book a room with PA it says that you are only holding the room and that the points required may go up or down. It didn’t used to have this condition. So it effectively means PA bookings will no longer be adjusted / corrected if points increase. The only way to lock in standards rates is to deduct the points now.
According to Marriott Bonvoy Lurker at https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...ion-rates.html : "You can rest assured that any reservations booked with points made prior to September 14th will reserve the Standard redemption rate. If you need to change that reservation after September 14th, you’ll receive the available redemption rate when you rebook."
Points Advance reservations made before today should be frozen at the Standard rate, unless the member changes the reservation. If the system is properly programmed, then there should be no need to adjust reservations made before today.
Sep 14, 2019, 9:32 am
#349
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Yes. As announced by Marriott on August 15, 2019, that's how it is for Points Advance reservations made on or after today (September 14) — but not for reservations made before today.
According to Marriott Bonvoy Lurker at https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...ion-rates.html :
"You can rest assured that any reservations booked with points made prior to September 14th will reserve the Standard redemption rate. If you need to change that reservation after September 14th, you’ll receive the available redemption rate when you rebook."
Points Advance reservations made before today should be frozen at the Standard rate, unless the member changes the reservation. If the system is properly programmed, then there should be no need to adjust reservations made before today.
According to Marriott Bonvoy Lurker at https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...ion-rates.html :
"You can rest assured that any reservations booked with points made prior to September 14th will reserve the Standard redemption rate. If you need to change that reservation after September 14th, you’ll receive the available redemption rate when you rebook."
Points Advance reservations made before today should be frozen at the Standard rate, unless the member changes the reservation. If the system is properly programmed, then there should be no need to adjust reservations made before today.
Bolding mine. Note that the Lurker is pointing out the intended functionality that the new Marriott IT is supposed to offer for PA bookings made before Sept 14. Of course, we all know that Marriott IT may not have the system properly programmed, so there yet may be errors and glitches.
Sep 14, 2019, 9:41 am
#350
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I have less faith in Marriott being prepared for their own deadline and expect premium locations to be peak most times as things settle in.
Sep 14, 2019, 9:45 am
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Don't forget the upside where properties can be on Off Peak rate which is lower than current rate. And there is even the possibility of Off Peak Point Saver rate where Cat 8 property can be booked for 65K.
Sep 14, 2019, 9:56 am
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Well, it seems the 2 differences I am seeing on the website are:
1 - stays are priced in total required for the stay (it was showing per night)
2 - filtering (at least by category) is not working anymore
The ones I looked at before the change still price out the same, at least for now.
1 - stays are priced in total required for the stay (it was showing per night)
2 - filtering (at least by category) is not working anymore
The ones I looked at before the change still price out the same, at least for now.
Sep 14, 2019, 9:58 am
#353
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I saw some PointSavers nights, but, as other have noted in this thread, that's different from Off-Peak.
The new rules are in effect today. And there's now the ability to set Off-Peak, Standard, and Peak redemptions within a category — plus Off-Peak, Standard, and Peak PointSavers redemptions within a category.
I assume we'll see some hotels with Off-Peak and Peak nights before the end of the weekend, but are there any yet?
Last edited by Horace; Sep 14, 2019 at 10:09 am
Sep 14, 2019, 9:58 am
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Sep 14, 2019, 10:16 am
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Sep 14, 2019, 10:22 am
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All the ones I looked at a half hour ago did the math correctly on a 5-night stay. For example, 4 nights at Category 4 Standard (25,000 points per night) were 100,000 points. And 5 nights at Category 6 Standard (50,000 points per night) were 200,000 points.
Sep 14, 2019, 10:41 am
#357
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I've tried to book two hotels in Madrid on points and it won't let me. It displays the correct number of points and goes through to the 'Review Reservation Details' page. But the orange countdown timer in the top right-hand-side "Room(s) held for' is missing and both the 'Book Now' boxes are greyed out. Example: HOTEL PALACIO DEL RETIRO, AUTOGRAPH COLLECTION
Sep 14, 2019, 10:51 am
#358
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I've tried to book two hotels in Madrid on points and it won't let me. It displays the correct number of points and goes through to the 'Review Reservation Details' page. But the orange countdown timer in the top right-hand-side "Room(s) held for' is missing and both the 'Book Now' boxes are greyed out. Example: HOTEL PALACIO DEL RETIRO, AUTOGRAPH COLLECTION
Sep 14, 2019, 10:54 am
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I've tried to book two hotels in Madrid on points and it won't let me. It displays the correct number of points and goes through to the 'Review Reservation Details' page. But the orange countdown timer in the top right-hand-side "Room(s) held for' is missing and both the 'Book Now' boxes are greyed out. Example: HOTEL PALACIO DEL RETIRO, AUTOGRAPH COLLECTION
Sep 14, 2019, 11:05 am
#360
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Please provide a link to an example.
All the ones I looked at a half hour ago did the math correctly on a 5-night stay. For example, 4 nights at Category 4 Standard (25,000 points per night) were 100,000 points. And 5 nights at Category 6 Standard (50,000 points per night) were 200,000 points.
All the ones I looked at a half hour ago did the math correctly on a 5-night stay. For example, 4 nights at Category 4 Standard (25,000 points per night) were 100,000 points. And 5 nights at Category 6 Standard (50,000 points per night) were 200,000 points.