May 2, 2022, 8:48 pm
Last edit by: gudugan
How to View Lifetime Status: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22489
Lifetime Status Details: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22145
Elite processing: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-34363
If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.
If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.
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As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.
Examples:
Lifetime Status Details: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22145
Elite processing: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-34363
How will my Eligible Status Years for 2022 be applied to my Account and when?
If you maintained the same Elite status in 2022 that you started with in 2022 , your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be applied to your Account in January 2023.If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.
If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.
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When will my 2021 qualifying year of Elite status be applied to my Account so I can track my path to Lifetime Elite Status?
As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
- If you maintain the same Elite level that you started the year with, your Qualifying Year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January of the following year. Please Note: In November 2021, when we extended the Elite status that Members earned in 2019 or 2020, Members received their 2021 Qualifying Year of Elite status.
- If you achieve a higher Elite level during the year than the previous year, your Qualifying Year for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement. Please Note: If you achieved a higher Elite level during 2021, your 2021 qualifying year of Elite status, was applied at the time of achievement.
If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.
Examples:
- A Member achieved Gold Elite in 2019 and enjoyed the status in 2020. They received their 2020 year of Gold Elite status in July 2020 when we extended their status. Due to status extensions, the Member received their 2021 year of tenure in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
- A Member achieved Platinum Elite in 2020 and enjoyed the status in 2021. They received their 2021 year of Platinum status in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
- A Gold Elite Member achieved Platinum Elite in April 2021; the Platinum year of Elite status for 2021 was applied upon achievement (in April 2021).
Marriott Lifetime Elite Status General Discussion [Master Thread]
Dec 18, 2018, 9:39 am
#363
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: All over
Programs: AA-LTP, HH-DIA, Marriott-LT+AMB, Hyatt-Globalist, Hertz-PC, UA-GS
Posts: 6,828
Announced a while back. Booking meetings rooms and credit has changed a few months ago as well, so unless you can do it with nights before now and the end of the year, it's not likely to happen
Dec 18, 2018, 11:21 am
#364
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: COS
Programs: UA Gold/1.5MM (several years running now!), Marriott LTTE, Hertz Prez
Posts: 1,899
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see this revisited sometime down the line after all the dust settles. As things stand, the highest LT status going forward is attainable at a mere 600 nights, which some folks reach pretty early into their traveling careers. Of course there's the 10 yrs @ Plat requirement, but if later analysis shows a measurable percentage of members hitting 600n/10y and then moving their business elsewhere (perhaps in pursuit of additional LT status elsewhere), it will not come as a huge shock to see a new LT tier (e.g. Titanium) emerge.
But for now, yes, many around here have been working feverishly to close the gap prior to Dec 31.
But for now, yes, many around here have been working feverishly to close the gap prior to Dec 31.
Dec 18, 2018, 1:23 pm
#365
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: London, Vancouver, Tokyo, San Francisco, NYC
Posts: 265
Dec 18, 2018, 1:34 pm
#366
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: AA GLD, Marriott PLT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,900
My mattress run stay over the weekend to get a few nights to nudge me up to 50 nights for Platinum status has posted. I have been Platinum in the past. In fact, making Platinum for 2018 gives me 10 lifetime years as Platinum! I also have over 600 lifetime nights. So, yay! I should be lifetime Platinum now. (was Lifetime Gold)
While looking over Platinum benefits to help me better understand them since things have changed a lot with the Starwood merger, I saw one benefit "Annual Gift Choice for those Member with 50 qualified nights. What counts as a qualified night? ALL nights? Or just certain ones? I managed to follow a link in an attempt to redeem the award, but it tells me I don't qualify. I have like 26 paid nights, 1 redeemed, then 23 from Chase credit card spend. Do those 23 nights not count as qualified? Or is this just an IT "glitch" where it takes time for different systems to sync up to recognize new status?
While looking over Platinum benefits to help me better understand them since things have changed a lot with the Starwood merger, I saw one benefit "Annual Gift Choice for those Member with 50 qualified nights. What counts as a qualified night? ALL nights? Or just certain ones? I managed to follow a link in an attempt to redeem the award, but it tells me I don't qualify. I have like 26 paid nights, 1 redeemed, then 23 from Chase credit card spend. Do those 23 nights not count as qualified? Or is this just an IT "glitch" where it takes time for different systems to sync up to recognize new status?
Dec 18, 2018, 2:26 pm
#367
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: AA plt 2 mm, Marriott LTT, HH dia
Posts: 1,215
As a business decision, it is pretty clear why Marriott is getting rid of LTPP after this year. Looking at their competitors with a large footprint - Hilton and IHG, lifetime status at Marriott is much more generous. So they don't have to have LTPP to be competitive in this market.
While it isn't popular on FT, from a business perspective, this is a reasonable move on Marriott's part. It changes the program to focus on people that are contributing the most money to the company right now. Also, looking at other programs in the travel industry as a whole, many of them require their members to earn top tier status every year. For example, LTP on AA is a mid level tier now. Platinum Pro or Executive Plat need to be earned each year. That keeps those levels more prestigious, and saves AA money.
Based on where I see the travel industry headed right now, I think the decision to discontinue LTPP may be permanent. Unless there is a significant market disruption where Marriott's competitors change their lifetime offerings (right now I think Hilton and Hyatt are the main competitors that offer lifetime status), or there is a major turn in the economy where occupancy rates drop significantly over several years, I don't see Marriott changing their minds on this one.
While it isn't popular on FT, from a business perspective, this is a reasonable move on Marriott's part. It changes the program to focus on people that are contributing the most money to the company right now. Also, looking at other programs in the travel industry as a whole, many of them require their members to earn top tier status every year. For example, LTP on AA is a mid level tier now. Platinum Pro or Executive Plat need to be earned each year. That keeps those levels more prestigious, and saves AA money.
Based on where I see the travel industry headed right now, I think the decision to discontinue LTPP may be permanent. Unless there is a significant market disruption where Marriott's competitors change their lifetime offerings (right now I think Hilton and Hyatt are the main competitors that offer lifetime status), or there is a major turn in the economy where occupancy rates drop significantly over several years, I don't see Marriott changing their minds on this one.
Dec 18, 2018, 5:56 pm
#368
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 247
Since only MR points count towards legacy MR Lifetime status, it would have been clearer if MPG stated that only nights and years of platinum status can be combined to achieve LTPP. If you have 750 nights, you will need either 10 years of combined Platinum status or 2MM Marriott points by the end of this year for LTPP.
As for the years, yes you will need to have 10 years of Plat., combined from both worlds, spg and MR.
HTH.
Dec 18, 2018, 6:07 pm
#369
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Programs: MB-LTT , HH-Diam., HGP-Expl.
Posts: 778
Not true. Not only "nights of platinum". All nights count. Your lifetime nights counter is what counts. And this counter contains more than just the nights you had while you were or have been Plat.
As for the years, yes you will need to have 10 years of Plat., combined from both worlds, spg and MR.
HTH.
As for the years, yes you will need to have 10 years of Plat., combined from both worlds, spg and MR.
HTH.
Dec 18, 2018, 6:09 pm
#370
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,932
As a business decision, it is pretty clear why Marriott is getting rid of LTPP after this year. Looking at their competitors with a large footprint - Hilton and IHG, lifetime status at Marriott is much more generous. So they don't have to have LTPP to be competitive in this market.
Marriott officially has two status levels above Platinum (Platinum Premier and Ambassador), while Diamond is officially Hilton's highest status level. And HH Diamond i*or even Gold for that matter) s much more consistent about breakfast privileges than Marriott's hodge-podge of benefits almost different for each of the 29 different brands.At IHG on the other hand, status is near useless (on paper, no breakfast or lounge access at any brand for any earned program-wide status) So there's nothing at IHG for hotel programs who want to provide "true" status benefits to compare against, even for annual (as opposed to lifetime) status.
Dec 18, 2018, 6:49 pm
#371
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 247
Dear rny321,
Thank your for your reply. Is this quote wrong? If yes, what have I gotten wrong? Thank you.
Thank your for your reply. Is this quote wrong? If yes, what have I gotten wrong? Thank you.
Dec 18, 2018, 7:00 pm
#372
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Programs: MB-LTT , HH-Diam., HGP-Expl.
Posts: 778
The quote is what was inside the quotation marks. You stated in quotes that I said “nights of platinum.” I said “nights and years of platinum” can be combined. The conjunction “and” is used to separate two things that each can be combined. To make it easy for you, nights can be combined AND years of platinum can be combined. That is very different from what you misquoted.
Dec 18, 2018, 8:32 pm
#373
Join Date: Apr 2004
Programs: AA plt 2 mm, Marriott LTT, HH dia
Posts: 1,215
Please explain how Marriott Lifetime Platinum (non-Premier) is much more generous than Hilton lifetime Diamond. Marriott officially has two status levels above Platinum (Platinum Premier and Ambassador), while Diamond is officially Hilton's highest status level. And HH Diamond i*or even Gold for that matter) s much more consistent about breakfast privileges than Marriott's hodge-podge of benefits almost different for each of the 29 different brands.
At IHG on the other hand, status is near useless (on paper, no breakfast or lounge access at any brand for any earned program-wide status) So there's nothing at IHG for hotel programs who want to provide "true" status benefits to compare against, even for annual (as opposed to lifetime) status.
Marriott officially has two status levels above Platinum (Platinum Premier and Ambassador), while Diamond is officially Hilton's highest status level. And HH Diamond i*or even Gold for that matter) s much more consistent about breakfast privileges than Marriott's hodge-podge of benefits almost different for each of the 29 different brands.At IHG on the other hand, status is near useless (on paper, no breakfast or lounge access at any brand for any earned program-wide status) So there's nothing at IHG for hotel programs who want to provide "true" status benefits to compare against, even for annual (as opposed to lifetime) status.
Finally, Diamond is the only lifetime status that Hilton has. With Marriott, Silver lifetime at least keeps Marriott points from ever expiring. But obtaining some type of lifetime status is much easier at Marriott than Hilton or Hyatt. That is the point I was trying to make.
Dec 18, 2018, 8:49 pm
#374
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,166
I'm assuming this is the same "Hilton Diamond" that doesn't have a 4pm late check-out (embarrassing at the highest level), no confirmable/advance suite upgrades, nothing like an Ambassador possible, along with a very weak hotel portfolio and an inflationary currency.
And - it's free each year w/ a credit card. I'm not Marriott defender but yes, that's an inferior level quite clearly.
And - it's free each year w/ a credit card. I'm not Marriott defender but yes, that's an inferior level quite clearly.
Dec 18, 2018, 8:53 pm
#375
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: MSY; 2-time FT Fantasy Football Champ, now in recovery.
Programs: AA lifetime GLD; UA Silver; Marriott LTTE; IHG Plat,
Posts: 14,517
My mattress run stay over the weekend to get a few nights to nudge me up to 50 nights for Platinum status has posted. I have been Platinum in the past. In fact, making Platinum for 2018 gives me 10 lifetime years as Platinum! I also have over 600 lifetime nights. So, yay! I should be lifetime Platinum now. (was Lifetime Gold)
While looking over Platinum benefits to help me better understand them since things have changed a lot with the Starwood merger, I saw one benefit "Annual Gift Choice for those Member with 50 qualified nights. What counts as a qualified night? ALL nights? Or just certain ones? I managed to follow a link in an attempt to redeem the award, but it tells me I don't qualify. I have like 26 paid nights, 1 redeemed, then 23 from Chase credit card spend. Do those 23 nights not count as qualified? Or is this just an IT "glitch" where it takes time for different systems to sync up to recognize new status?
While looking over Platinum benefits to help me better understand them since things have changed a lot with the Starwood merger, I saw one benefit "Annual Gift Choice for those Member with 50 qualified nights. What counts as a qualified night? ALL nights? Or just certain ones? I managed to follow a link in an attempt to redeem the award, but it tells me I don't qualify. I have like 26 paid nights, 1 redeemed, then 23 from Chase credit card spend. Do those 23 nights not count as qualified? Or is this just an IT "glitch" where it takes time for different systems to sync up to recognize new status?