Destination Fees for NYC hotels?
Sep 12, 2018, 8:03 am
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Random question/thought - US airlines keep the base fees low but then keep jacking up ancillary revenues, as they aren't subject to the same excise tax (IIRC). So net-net similar revenues but lower taxable base.
Does the same apply here? Are they incented to shift revenue allocation from base rates to resort fees for taxable purposes?
Does the same apply here? Are they incented to shift revenue allocation from base rates to resort fees for taxable purposes?
Last edited by hockeyinsider; Sep 12, 2018 at 8:08 am
Sep 12, 2018, 8:42 am
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When an arbitrary resort / dest fee shows up on my folio and I cannot get it removed, I let the property manager know I will not return because of this practice. Marriott, etc. should do some loss analysis here. How much lifetime spend are they alienating when they shake down an extra quick, dirty, semi-fraudulent $25 or $50 a night?
Mar 2, 2019, 4:36 pm
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It's no longer limited to luxury hotels. Eventually, room rates will be zero with 100% of the charges going to "facility fees". Fees like this should be part of the room rate, and not an under-the-table cash grab.
Mar 2, 2019, 5:32 pm
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I'm really surprised the local governments haven't gone after these fees because I believe they are exempt from the outrageous lodging taxes most jurisdictions charge.
Mar 2, 2019, 6:37 pm
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Mar 2, 2019, 10:33 pm
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I've gotten the fee waived from the Marriott Marquis Times Square and the Renaissance Las Vegas and was told it will be waived in future stays at the Marriott Marquis in San Diego. I'm a Lifetime Titanium and Ambassador member so maybe that helps.
Mar 3, 2019, 2:03 am
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Not awarding points for the payment of destination fees is ridiculous, as far as I'm concerned. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that US carriers that award points based upon ticket revenue include the value of fuel/carrier surcharges in these calculations.
Marriott taking this decision just encourages poor behaviour by their properties, and will likely cause a bigger issue down the road: how long until a greater proportion of the total cost is made up of a destination fee, rather than the room rate?
Another crap decision by Bonfire.
Marriott taking this decision just encourages poor behaviour by their properties, and will likely cause a bigger issue down the road: how long until a greater proportion of the total cost is made up of a destination fee, rather than the room rate?
Another crap decision by Bonfire.
Mar 19, 2019, 8:36 pm
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Random question/thought - US airlines keep the base fees low but then keep jacking up ancillary revenues, as they aren't subject to the same excise tax (IIRC). So net-net similar revenues but lower taxable base.
Does the same apply here? Are they incented to shift revenue allocation from base rates to resort fees for taxable purposes?
Does the same apply here? Are they incented to shift revenue allocation from base rates to resort fees for taxable purposes?
Optional extra charges (breakfast, high-speed internet, spa usage; or checked bags, food on board, etc.) that are actually optional and you don't have to pay for them if you don't want them are different.
I've seen hotels (Las Vegas) with $31 room rates and $28 additional "resort fee".
Mar 20, 2019, 6:04 am
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Fees are getting ridiculous! It used to only be larger major hotels in NYC that were charging it but it's now showing up everywhere across the US. I cannot for the life of me justify why a hotel like the Lexington NYC would be ok to charge a $25 fee when others in the Marriott portfolio do not. I really think these fees are used to subsidize profits and that all it really boils down to.
Mar 20, 2019, 6:26 am
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Don't forget to ask for a replacement benefit. See this thread:
Replacement Benefit when Wi-Fi is included in resort fee
Replacement Benefit when Wi-Fi is included in resort fee
Mar 20, 2019, 6:38 am
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Don't forget to ask for a replacement benefit. See this thread:
Replacement Benefit when Wi-Fi is included in resort fee
Replacement Benefit when Wi-Fi is included in resort fee
Mar 20, 2019, 6:46 am
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Works for me, but regardless.
From the Bonvoy terms and conditions:
From the Bonvoy terms and conditions:
Section 1.3.c.v. Participating Properties that have mandatory resort charges, which include Internet access, will provide a replacement benefit, to be determined at each Participating Property’s discretion.