Sep 4, 2018, 3:50 pm
Last edit by: Counsellor
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2018)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
When converting your legacy certificate to a new certificate your prior certificate is cancelled and your new certificate will (in most cases) have an expiration date that is 12 months from the date of issuance (today).
The codes for the New Category partial packages are:
5-night packages
NCx = new certificate category
QPxx = post-merger converted partial package
OCx = old certificate category
QLxx = post-merger converted partial package (only QL known so far is QL87 for NC7)
xx0T = initial package;
Pxx0 = partial package;
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MARRIOT UK: +44 20 7012 7312
For best practices on converting OC to NC, I’ve copied post # 1181 here. Thank you jameswes!
(Also, never use the word UPGRADE. You must say you want to CONVERT your certs.)
IMPORTANT! Possible Points Advance Implications of March 5 category changes: There’s a (potential) issue with the category changes and Points Advance reservations. Marriott included the following information when they emailed some of us about the upcoming changes: “Points Advance — Members who wish to book a points advance redemption under the current Marriott Rewards and SPG award chart are encouraged to order redemption certificates before March 5 to lock in the rate. On March 5, redemption bookings are subject to the new unified program award chart.” We’ve reached out to Marriott to confirm the practical implications of this verbiage, as it sounds like Points Advance reservations will revert to the new pricing if they don’t have certificates attached prior to March 5. To be on the safe side, if your hotel is increasing in category be sure your TP certificate is attached to the reservation before March 5.
Concerning use of TP for peak or off-peak, see post 2179:
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2018)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
When converting your legacy certificate to a new certificate your prior certificate is cancelled and your new certificate will (in most cases) have an expiration date that is 12 months from the date of issuance (today).
The codes for the New Category partial packages are:
5-night packages
- OC5=530T/P530 is now NC4 QP53
- OC6=570T/P570 is now NC4 QP53
- OC7=610T/P610 is now NC5 QP61 (refund value: 45K)
- OC8=650T/P650 is now NC5 QP?? (Refund value: 75k)
- OC9=690T/P690 is now NC6 QP69
- NC4 QP83 = OC5 830T/P830 (refund value: 45K)
- NC4 QP87 = OC6 870T/P870 (refund value: 75K)
- NC5 QP91 = OC7 910T/P910 (refund value: 105K)
- NC5 QP95 = OC8 950T/P950 (refund value: 135K)
- NC6 QP99 = OC9 990T/P990 (refund value: 165K)
- NC6 QP99 = OC Tier 1-3 L830 (refund value: 195K)
- NC7 QL87 = OC Tier 4-5 L870 (refund value: 315K)
- NC5 QP88 = OC7 P880 (refund value: 135K)
- NC5 QP92 = OC8 P920 (refund value: 165K)
NCx = new certificate category
QPxx = post-merger converted partial package
OCx = old certificate category
QLxx = post-merger converted partial package (only QL known so far is QL87 for NC7)
xx0T = initial package;
Pxx0 = partial package;
************************************************** *******
MARRIOT UK: +44 20 7012 7312
For best practices on converting OC to NC, I’ve copied post # 1181 here. Thank you jameswes!
(Also, never use the word UPGRADE. You must say you want to CONVERT your certs.)
New data point for the new year.
I've read/followed the majority of this thread and now that I have a plan for how to use the travel certificates I made it happen
Last July, I purchased two OC1-5 travel packages. I have an upcoming trip that I wanted to use the certificates to book two rooms at an NC5 hotel.
1) Verified that I had an extra 120,000 MR points in my account (2x60,000 to upgrade from NC4 to NC5)
2) Call the UK Marriott # in the wiki (+44 20 7012 7312). In total, the call took about 25 minutes.
3) Explain that I have a booking I wanted to make, and I wanted to Cancel my two 830T certificates and convert them to two QP91 certificates. I did need to be clear with the rep that I was going to be using additional points from my account to upgrade the certificate.
Canceling two 830T (OC1-5) added 90,000 points (2x45000) to my account
Ordering two QP91 (NC5) subtracted 210,000 points (2x105K) from my account
4) The rep said that their "specialist" wasn't in the office, but she would leave detailed notes and have him do it the next day
5) True to form, the next day (today), I got an emails saying that my old certificates were canceled and new certificates were ordered.
Email clearly states that 830T certs were canceled
Second email clearly states that QP91 certs were ordered and 210K points were redeemed
Email (and account) state that the expiration is one year from today
As typical, App is up-to-date, website doesn't show the updated information yet.
I've read/followed the majority of this thread and now that I have a plan for how to use the travel certificates I made it happen
Last July, I purchased two OC1-5 travel packages. I have an upcoming trip that I wanted to use the certificates to book two rooms at an NC5 hotel.
1) Verified that I had an extra 120,000 MR points in my account (2x60,000 to upgrade from NC4 to NC5)
2) Call the UK Marriott # in the wiki (+44 20 7012 7312). In total, the call took about 25 minutes.
3) Explain that I have a booking I wanted to make, and I wanted to Cancel my two 830T certificates and convert them to two QP91 certificates. I did need to be clear with the rep that I was going to be using additional points from my account to upgrade the certificate.
Canceling two 830T (OC1-5) added 90,000 points (2x45000) to my account
Ordering two QP91 (NC5) subtracted 210,000 points (2x105K) from my account
4) The rep said that their "specialist" wasn't in the office, but she would leave detailed notes and have him do it the next day
5) True to form, the next day (today), I got an emails saying that my old certificates were canceled and new certificates were ordered.
Email clearly states that 830T certs were canceled
Second email clearly states that QP91 certs were ordered and 210K points were redeemed
Email (and account) state that the expiration is one year from today
As typical, App is up-to-date, website doesn't show the updated information yet.
Concerning use of TP for peak or off-peak, see post 2179:
The new award redemption chart will not impact Travel Packages. After these changes go into effect, you'll be able to book a hotel within the category assigned to your Travel Package, regardless of whether the dates at the hotel are in off-peak, standard or peak rates.
Travel Package General Discussion Thread
Dec 23, 2018, 11:07 am
#1051
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 343
I'm shocked the NC7 appears to finally be available, I can't decide if it's worth the numerous phone calls it would likely take to upgrade, however.
Dec 23, 2018, 4:23 pm
#1052
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
Or what you are saying is, OC6 has 75K refund value, and to upgrade to NC5, you need to pay 30K but the kind UK agent has given you 30K courtesy points to offset the additional 30K you have to pay to get the NC5?
That would make sense with your 105K explanation.
Dec 23, 2018, 9:38 pm
#1053
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,026
How many points needed to upgrade OC1-5 (P830) to NC6? if my understanding is right, 60k?
Dec 24, 2018, 3:17 am
#1054
Join Date: May 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 3,951
Wait... they are now potentially allowing upgrades of the older ‘legacy’ packages?
Dec 24, 2018, 3:37 am
#1055
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Thailand
Programs: Marriott LT Titanium; IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 1,150
Need some help with this one
I had a reservation and a legacy 7 night category 1-5 travel package certificate attached.
I asked to detach the certificate and convert the legacy 7 night category 1-5 travel package certificate to a new post merger category 4 certificate.
With this move I get a refund of 45,000 points correct?
Thanks in advance
Robert.
I asked to detach the certificate and convert the legacy 7 night category 1-5 travel package certificate to a new post merger category 4 certificate.
With this move I get a refund of 45,000 points correct?
Thanks in advance
Robert.
Dec 24, 2018, 8:00 am
#1056
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Programs: MB-LTT , HH-Diam., HGP-Expl.
Posts: 778
I had a reservation and a legacy 7 night category 1-5 travel package certificate attached.
I asked to detach the certificate and convert the legacy 7 night category 1-5 travel package certificate to a new post merger category 4 certificate.
With this move I get a refund of 45,000 points correct?
Thanks in advance
Robert.
I asked to detach the certificate and convert the legacy 7 night category 1-5 travel package certificate to a new post merger category 4 certificate.
With this move I get a refund of 45,000 points correct?
Thanks in advance
Robert.
Dec 24, 2018, 8:44 am
#1057
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 724
Hi. I still have the old legacy 7 night travel package for Cat 1-5 hotels that expires Mar 2, 2019. From what I’ve read I need to call in to Marriott to get the legacy certificate converted to a new Cat 1-4 certificate. If I called in today to convert my certificate, will my expiration date get changed to 1 year from today?
Dec 25, 2018, 8:31 am
#1058
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
Data point for all those asking if the certs are transferrable:
I made a reservation for a couple of family members and put their name on the reservation at the time of booking. They had no issues at check-in. YMMV.
I made a reservation for a couple of family members and put their name on the reservation at the time of booking. They had no issues at check-in. YMMV.
Last edited by margarita girl; Dec 25, 2018 at 10:15 am Reason: incorrect info
Dec 25, 2018, 10:46 am
#1059
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 9
Data Point
I was able to convert 2 870T travel packages to QP91 this morning and received the confirmation emails. At this time, the extra 30,000 I expected to have withdrawn from my account is still there. There was no mention of it on the call. I called the US Loyalty rewards number.
I was able to convert 2 870T travel packages to QP91 this morning and received the confirmation emails. At this time, the extra 30,000 I expected to have withdrawn from my account is still there. There was no mention of it on the call. I called the US Loyalty rewards number.
Dec 25, 2018, 1:20 pm
#1060
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Did you make the reservation in your name and add their name to it (is this possible online)? Or, did you make the reservation in their name only and attach your certificate? Did the family member have the same last name as yours? I would like to use one of my certs for a family member with a different last name.
Dec 25, 2018, 2:11 pm
#1061
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
Did you make the reservation in your name and add their name to it (is this possible online)? Or, did you make the reservation in their name only and attach your certificate? Did the family member have the same last name as yours? I would like to use one of my certs for a family member with a different last name.
Dec 25, 2018, 2:41 pm
#1062
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
It was a while ago, but I think I made the reservation online with my name, then called in to apply the cert. When I spoke to the agent, I told her I wouldn't be there and gave the name of family member which then appeared on the reservation confirmation email I received (different last name).
Dec 25, 2018, 6:17 pm
#1064
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 9
Just fyi, they did pull out the 30,000 points later.
Dec 25, 2018, 6:27 pm
#1065
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,467