Leaving Marriott General Discussion Thread
Aug 25, 2018, 12:03 am
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Leaving Marriott General Discussion Thread
I'm sure I'm not the only one considering leaving Marriott/SPG after the disaster we've had this week. I'm still missing several nights, points and have an upcoming reservation on Monday that still has to pop up in my account. I'm seriously considering staying with Hilton for my remaining stays this year, even if that means starting from scratch with Honors (not a fan of the 8 stay Diamond challenge since my stays are usually at least 5-6 nights). Any thoughts on what loyalty program might be best to try?
P.S: Btw, even though I've been a follower of the forum for a while, I just decided to open an account. So hello to everyone!
P.S: Btw, even though I've been a follower of the forum for a while, I just decided to open an account. So hello to everyone!
Last edited by joseror; Aug 25, 2018 at 12:04 am Reason: Adding PS
Aug 25, 2018, 12:22 am
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It's hard to offer advice without more details. Your status suggests 100+ nights and an ambassador, but what do you want from a frequent sleeper program?
Note that HH gives Gold to AmEx Platinum charge card holders and probably others, so you probably needn't start from scratch if you decide to go that route.
Could the Hyatt program work for you in terms of its footprint?
I would avoid making immediate rash decisions, but if you've already requalified for PPwithAmb for next year, you could use your remaining stays this year to explore alternatives or even do a challenge (that covers all of 2019), but remember than status matches/challenges are in principle supposed to be once in a lifetime, so the opportunity shouldn't be wasted.
Note that HH gives Gold to AmEx Platinum charge card holders and probably others, so you probably needn't start from scratch if you decide to go that route.
Could the Hyatt program work for you in terms of its footprint?
I would avoid making immediate rash decisions, but if you've already requalified for PPwithAmb for next year, you could use your remaining stays this year to explore alternatives or even do a challenge (that covers all of 2019), but remember than status matches/challenges are in principle supposed to be once in a lifetime, so the opportunity shouldn't be wasted.
Last edited by MSPeconomist; Aug 25, 2018 at 12:30 am
Aug 25, 2018, 12:36 am
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Definitely interested in Hyatt, but not a lot of options close to my usual NYC location so leaning towards Hilton. You're right, I already qualified for Plat Premier with Ambassador for next yr, so that's why I'm considering a different program for the remainder of the yr. Since my stays are mostly in NYC, it would be quite easy to achieve Diamond with spend.
Aug 25, 2018, 2:18 am
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Hyatt has quite a few NYC properties. I'm not sure what your usual NYC location would be such that there's a Hilton but not a Hyatt, except perhaps west of WTC, near the Conrad, which is definitely the best NYC Hilton. Other Hiltons in NYC are uninspired at best.
Aug 25, 2018, 3:46 am
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Aug 25, 2018, 5:22 am
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Making a 5-10 year switch in your business patterns because of a one-off event literally makes no sense. While I can understand the desire for Marriott to feel economic pain from their mistake, I am sure they are already doing so. To swap from what you feel is otherwise the best programme to one which is worse mainly hurts yourself.
Aug 25, 2018, 5:25 am
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I'm sure I'm not the only one considering leaving Marriott/SPG after the disaster we've had this week. I'm still missing several nights, points and have an upcoming reservation on Monday that still has to pop up in my account. I'm seriously considering staying with Hilton for my remaining stays this year, even if that means starting from scratch with Honors (not a fan of the 8 stay Diamond challenge since my stays are usually at least 5-6 nights). Any thoughts on what loyalty program might be best to try?
P.S: Btw, even though I've been a follower of the forum for a while, I just decided to open an account. So hello to everyone!
P.S: Btw, even though I've been a follower of the forum for a while, I just decided to open an account. So hello to everyone!
Aug 25, 2018, 5:34 am
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On that note, I will be half way through the Hilton Diamond match challenge by month end.
Aug 25, 2018, 7:17 am
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Why not get the Hilton Aspire card? You get instant Platinum status. It has a high fee. But between the $200 airline credit; $250 Hilton resort credit alone, you get it all back. Then there's the 100,000 bonus points after $4k spend.
Hilton does sometimes get things wrong. But IME, they are incredibly generous about service recovery and show a real desire to get things right. That's where I'm going....
Hilton does sometimes get things wrong. But IME, they are incredibly generous about service recovery and show a real desire to get things right. That's where I'm going....
Aug 25, 2018, 7:30 am
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Grass is always greener...
i was was a little peeved at Hilton for some things, so I decided to try out Marriott. I got a credit card and some points and tried out a few properties this year. I had some nice stays, and I enjoyed some elements to the program, but I am finding that Hilton’s program is a better fit for me.
So, it’s not like a spouse, you can check out the other chains without feeling guilty. Get a credit card with some status at Hilton or Hyatt. See if the footprint matches your needs. See if you like the full service or limited service offerings better (based upon your stay patterns), etc.
i liked Marriott, but will probably not renew my credit card with them, I will stay focused on Hilton because they better suit me. But they all have issues, and they all have positives. Let the dust settle before you decide to make a 100% switch. But also check out some other program and see before you jump ship.
i was was a little peeved at Hilton for some things, so I decided to try out Marriott. I got a credit card and some points and tried out a few properties this year. I had some nice stays, and I enjoyed some elements to the program, but I am finding that Hilton’s program is a better fit for me.
So, it’s not like a spouse, you can check out the other chains without feeling guilty. Get a credit card with some status at Hilton or Hyatt. See if the footprint matches your needs. See if you like the full service or limited service offerings better (based upon your stay patterns), etc.
i liked Marriott, but will probably not renew my credit card with them, I will stay focused on Hilton because they better suit me. But they all have issues, and they all have positives. Let the dust settle before you decide to make a 100% switch. But also check out some other program and see before you jump ship.
Aug 25, 2018, 10:59 am
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I used to be a Hiltonian, but the spotty elite recognition and the brazillions of points required for redemption were a turn-off to me. But then again Marriott has somewhat leveled that playing field going into 2019...
Aug 25, 2018, 11:50 am
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Hyatt is spectacular with what you get top tier. Kinda like SPG Platinum in the old days.
Great full breakfasts, lounges and suite upgrades.
The problem is limited locations except they are in most big cities worldwide so it depends on where travel.
International properites are over the top good for Diamonds or Globalists or whatever it is called now.
Hyatt also has some fantastic bonus point promotions during the year. The best of any program with IHG promotions a close second.
If you call and explain your dilemma they might even customize a challenge for you with nights instead of stays.
Great full breakfasts, lounges and suite upgrades.
The problem is limited locations except they are in most big cities worldwide so it depends on where travel.
International properites are over the top good for Diamonds or Globalists or whatever it is called now.
Hyatt also has some fantastic bonus point promotions during the year. The best of any program with IHG promotions a close second.
If you call and explain your dilemma they might even customize a challenge for you with nights instead of stays.
Last edited by Bigshaker; Aug 25, 2018 at 11:55 am