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Originally Posted by JBord
(Post 31759248)
Here's why -- let's say you and I are both Titanium, arriving at the same hotel on the same day. If I check in the day before, the hotel can be fairly certain I'll be there. As soon as it's clear there's an upgrade available, they can assign it to me, make a key, and be ready to go. You get there at 3 pm the next day and check in, and are told there are no upgrades available -- because mine is sitting behind the desk waiting for me to arrive. It just allows properties to better manage their inventory. As I mentioned in another post, I've been upgraded after online check in but before arriving, in the US, so they definitely do it even if you believe they always wait until the last minute hoping to sell.
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Originally Posted by arlflyer
(Post 31759317)
This is a very rosy picture of the hotel "having upgrades" and seeking to give them proactively to elites. I can't say that I've encountered this in the U.S. in years...I guess you're lucky. Based on the rooms I receive when doing OLCI, what I see evidence of is staff just trying to map the first rooms available to the first guests to check in, so they can make their key card packs and be done with it.
Anyway, if it gives me even a 1% better chance of an upgrade, I'll check in online since it takes less than 30 seconds of my time. The first thing I'd like to see Marriott do with OLCI is add the room choice like Hilton has...I very much like that feature...although I do wonder if that prevents me from getting an upgrade at Hilton. But I'm only Gold there, and not sure I've ever received an upgrade, or even what I'd be eligible for -- typically Hilton is my second choice if there isn't an acceptable Marriott, and it's usually not a fancy Hilton brand. |
I always do the mobile check in and then use the messaging functionality to politely ask about an upgrade. Best success as a Gold has been in the Disney / Buena Park, CA area where on Saturdays they frequently upgrade me to a suite. A few other random successes too, Sheraton in downtown Seattle they put me on the 30th floor for the week, corner room with nice views :)
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Originally Posted by JBord
(Post 31759445)
The first thing I'd like to see Marriott do with OLCI is add the room choice like Hilton has...I very much like that feature...although I do wonder if that prevents me from getting an upgrade at Hilton. But I'm only Gold there, and not sure I've ever received an upgrade, or even what I'd be eligible for -- typically Hilton is my second choice if there isn't an acceptable Marriott
So I do find it funny when people (including most of my coworkers) only speak the language of Marriott, and scoff at other options not even being "acceptable" - maybe it's just me, but as someone who splits 60% of his life evenly between the two big chains, I'm leaning Hilton these days... |
A quirk with Hilton's mobile check-in is that if you get a late check-out, you cannot use the app when you leave.
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I often will book a AAA rate. My AAA number is stored at Hilton. I do online checkin, choose my room. Next day I arrive and go to my room.
At Marriott, even though I have done digital checkin, I still need to go to the desk, present various id, then get my key. Marriott certainly has more aspirational properties. Hilton certainly has better technology. |
Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
(Post 31759996)
A quirk with Hilton's mobile check-in is that if you get a late check-out, you cannot use the app when you leave.
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Originally Posted by JBord
(Post 31759248)
Here's why -- let's say you and I are both Titanium, arriving at the same hotel on the same day. If I check in the day before, the hotel can be fairly certain I'll be there. As soon as it's clear there's an upgrade available, they can assign it to me, make a key, and be ready to go. You get there at 3 pm the next day and check in, and are told there are no upgrades available -- because mine is sitting behind the desk waiting for me to arrive. It just allows properties to better manage their inventory. As I mentioned in another post, I've been upgraded after online check in but before arriving, in the US, so they definitely do it even if you believe they always wait until the last minute hoping to sell.
Sorry if it seems like I'm nitpicking. I do believe that the upgrade is one of the very few benefits of online check in at Marriott. And I'll use online check in as long as I believe that -- even while I wish Marriott would make it more useful overall. My takeaway from this was that OLCI meant nothing at all. |
Originally Posted by yurtripper
(Post 31761275)
I did OLCI once on the Starwood app and as I arrived it was showing I had a JS. When I got there they actually gave me a basic room and the FD claimed that my JS had just been sold to a guest who turned up on spec and offered to pay on the spot for a suite.
My takeaway from this was that OLCI meant nothing at all. 1. That was a different company and app 2. Always take a screen shot when you get an upgrade To be honest, after the one bad experience I had not getting the room I booked, I always take a screen shot of my room even before an upgrade now -- if it's for a personal trip where the room type actually matters to me. |
Thought I would bump this thread because the topic of humanless, touchless entry should now be a rather popular one, yet I found it interesting that the various discussions on re-opening procedures (e.g. the interview with Arne) haven't mentioned digital key.
To me, an opportunity to go straight to the room without standing in a line in a crowded lobby and then ending up face-to-face with an employee only a few feet away (who in turn stands being exposed to customers in close proximity all day), well, that sounds like a no brainer. But at least so far, Marriott's system seems to be ages beyond Hilton's - for Hilton, digital key is almost ubiquitous, while I've encountered it maybe once at a Marriott property in hundreds of stays. I wonder if this is something that Marriott corporate is considering fast-tracking. I think it could certainly drive stay decisions during this period where everyone is still acutely aware of minimizing close human contact. |
Very good point and well written.
I will echo the Hilton vs Marriott regarding then digital key too. My previous job was Hilton, when I left in 2018 I would say 95% of Hilton hotels had the digital key, and they were very very reliably. Marriott still today, maybe what 15% of the hotels? And it works what, half the time. Maybe even less? I personally rarely went straight to my room. However, now when I travel again. That’s going to be way up on my list. |
Last week I stayed at an Aloft in the DC area. I checked-in online, got the keyless entry thing set up, and when I arrived at the property I walked straight to the elevator (I did say hi to the FD person), went to my room and opened it with my phone. It was just me traveling so I didn’t really care about upgrades. This was a very smooth process.
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I agree. Nearly every Hilton brand I've stayed at had digital keys via the app, and very few Marriotts I've stayed at have had it. Hopefully Marriott fast tracks their digital keys and enables them for more properties.
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When Hilton IT is putting you to shame, you know you have problems
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Originally Posted by soy
(Post 32319941)
When Hilton IT is putting you to shame, you know you have problems
I actually would not just say that MR IT is bad, but that at this juncture, while it took a while to get there, Hilton’s capabilities are objectively quite good. |
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