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Old Dec 19, 2018, 10:39 am
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Recommended SNA Best Practices:
  1. According to the Marriott Lurkers in this forum (see post #220 in this thread), as confusing as it sounds, the SNA system is separate from the reservation system, so if a suite is showing as currently unavailable or available on the website, that does not necessarily mean it is currently unavailable or available for SNAs.
  2. As of March 2019, there is an IT bug on Marriott's website that prevents SNAs from being applied to many if not all prepaid reservations. One member has identified a workaround that enables you to "trick" the website into allowing you apply SNAs to prepaid reservation. Several members have reported success using this workaround to apply SNAs to their prepaid reservations. Hopefully Marriott will fix this IT bug in the near future.
  3. After SNAs are redeemed, they are removed from member's account. But they are in pending mode and will only be processed (confirmed or denied) about one week (normally 5 days) prior to actual stay. Any change to the reservation during this pending period may detach the SNAs. Check with reservation agent again to have SNAs re-attached again.
  4. After SNAs get cleared and confirmed, they are locked with the reservation. Any further changes to the reservation may break the confirmed SNAs. It is a hazard to ask agent to process SNAs again since the SNA processing window is closing
  5. If your SNA clears, be sure to take a screen shot of what suite category you are assigned in the app and be prepared to show this to the front desk at check-in. Several members have reported being confirmed in certain suite categories when there SNAs have cleared or during mobile check-in only to be assigned lower a category room at check-in. Members who have taken screenshots of their initial SNA assignments have had success in getting properties to honor those original assignments after initially getting assigned inferior rooms at check-in.
  6. If you are assigned a lower category of room than any of the options offered during the SNA application process and/or if the hotel refuses honor the representations they made at any point during the SNA process, be sure to submit a formal complaint to Marriott and ask for your SNAs used during your stay to be reinstated. If you have followed the screenshot best practice, your screenshot should go a long way towards getting Marriott to eventually refund your SNA, although it may take a long time for customer service to process your request.
Non-Participating Brands:
Not all hotels participate in Suite Night Awards. Suite Night Awards are not redeemable at the following brands (subject to change at any time; see Marriott Bonvoy Terms and Conditions for full details): The Ritz-Carlton®, Protea Hotels®, Aloft®, Element®, Design Hotels™, all-suite hotels, Marriott Executive Apartments®, Marriott Vacation Club®, EDITION®, Ritz-Carlton Reserve®, The Ritz-Carlton Destination Clubs® and Marriott Grand Residence Club properties. In addition, Suite Night Awards are not redeemable at select Participating Properties. Contact Member Support for individual hotel Suite Night Award participation.

From post # 220.

The system is not checking what is available for sale at any marriott.com web site, so you should not be using the web sites as a guide for what is and is not available for SNA approval.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

FOR ANYONE TRYING TO ADD SNAs TO PRE-PAID NONREFUNDABLE BOOKINGS THAT MARRIOTT IT
CURRENTLY DOESN’T SEEM TO ALLOW, HERE IS A WORK-AROUND. GOOD LUCK!

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30575978-post541.html

Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
All, I believe that I've found a way of getting around Marriott's IT issue where SNA's cannot be used on advance purchase rates. It takes advantage of another error in the Marriott IT system (go figure) where changes in different windows are not handled properly. It seems to work for me - would be great if someone else can confirm.

For this to work, in addition to a pre-paid reservation where SNAs are disabled you need a rate at a hotel where SNA's are eligible - so go book a bog-standard fully flex rate at your local Westin or whatever which you can cancel later if you don't currently have any flexible rates booked.

Log in to Marriott.com and click on "My Trips" (obviously this won't work for people whose trips are still not showing). Open "View/ Modify" in a new browser window/ tab on the flexible reservation first, and then open "View/ Modify" in the non-refundable reservation in another new window/ tab. Go back to the flexible reservation and click on "Start Upgrade Request" and it should take you to a webpage for the pre-paid reservation where you can finally select your SNAs.

The link for selecting your benefit:
https://choice-benefit.marriott.com/

How to cancel an Award request:

Suite Night Award requests may be canceled until 2 p.m. local hotel time the day before you arrive, as long as the Awards have not already been confirmed for use on a reservation. Once your Awards have been confirmed, you must cancel the entire reservation to receive credit back for all the Awards; however, after 2 p.m. local hotel time the day before you arrive, a reservation cancellation will result in the forfeiture of all Suite Night Awards applied to the entire reservation. This is in addition to any other cancellation fees applicable to the reservation itself.

NOTE: Always detach the SNA before cancelling a reservation. It's the only way to ensure your SNA is returned to your account immediately. Otherwise, you could be waiting hours/days to see your SNA again.

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Old Aug 22, 2022, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by On the fly
Have a trip to London Renaissance St. Pancras booked in October - we're traveling with my parents so have booked senior rates. I'd like to use SNAs to try for upgrades on both rooms but don't see the button/choice online. Do I reach out to the property directly? Any tips/advice?
Thanks!
Originally Posted by cfischer
its a known problem with no known solution
If you booked a flexible rate, it looks like cancellation is permitted up to 1 day before arrival. You could always make a second flexible booking at the normal rate and apply your SNAs to that. If the SNAs don't clear, cancel the second booking. If they do clear, you end up paying a little extra beyond the senior rate, but at least you got upgraded.
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Old Aug 22, 2022, 9:54 am
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These things are really becoming more and more frustrating...

Springhill Pensacola Beach - booked a standard room on points, and the system won't let me apply SNAs. Messed around with it a bit, trying combinations of cash nights and points nights, still says SNA not eligible.

Booked a room with slightly better view over base/standard and it lets me apply SNA requests. Seriously?
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Old Aug 22, 2022, 1:09 pm
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if i book a stay starting for this coming sunday, is it too late to apply SNA? I know there is a 5 day period...but what happens if the booking is within 5 days?
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Old Aug 22, 2022, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by AdeAhmed
if i book a stay starting for this coming sunday, is it too late to apply SNA? I know there is a 5 day period...but what happens if the booking is within 5 days?
Not a problem. I can still apply SNA within 5 days.
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Old Aug 22, 2022, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan
These things are really becoming more and more frustrating...

Springhill Pensacola Beach - booked a standard room on points, and the system won't let me apply SNAs. Messed around with it a bit, trying combinations of cash nights and points nights, still says SNA not eligible.

Booked a room with slightly better view over base/standard and it lets me apply SNA requests. Seriously?
ugh ... that's BAD.
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Old Aug 27, 2022, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan
These things are really becoming more and more frustrating...

Springhill Pensacola Beach - booked a standard room on points, and the system won't let me apply SNAs. Messed around with it a bit, trying combinations of cash nights and points nights, still says SNA not eligible.

Booked a room with slightly better view over base/standard and it lets me apply SNA requests. Seriously?
I recently stayed and this hotel loves to play games. I could not apply any SNA requests. On checking in, I did receive a complimentary upgrade to a room with a balcony facing east. I showed up at the hotel around 2PM and was told my room was not ready (check-in is 4PM). At 402PM, I received a call that my room was ready. Evidently, a bunch of other people also got called at the same time, because the front desk EXPLODED with activity of people checking in. Magically at 4PM, all the rooms were all cleaned and ready for check-in. It was a good location, but I would not go out of my way to stay here again.
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Old Aug 29, 2022, 3:09 pm
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Not sure does this got answered before, but I am just wondering whether I can request an extension of my SNA (2022 one, never extended before) to 2023? I know it’s possible to extent FNA, just not sure about SNA.
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Old Aug 29, 2022, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by williamluk
Not sure does this got answered before, but I am just wondering whether I can request an extension of my SNA (2022 one, never extended before) to 2023? I know it’s possible to extent FNA, just not sure about SNA.
I would say no. I think Marriott has only extended them twice before, once during the merger, and once during Covid. And they flatly refused to offer any further extensions except when they had a 24 hr IT issue on June 30/22 which they corrected.

It’s use them or lose them I’m afraid.
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Old Aug 30, 2022, 2:47 am
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Hey, what is the difference between a SNA and a regular upgrade you can receive as a platinum member? Are they not the same thing?
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Old Aug 30, 2022, 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by MasterGberry
Hey, what is the difference between a SNA and a regular upgrade you can receive as a platinum member? Are they not the same thing?
SNAs can be confirmed upto 5 days in advance while the regular upgrade only happens during check-in & is not guaranteed.

Also, you have the ability to select which room type you want to get upgraded to using a SNA.

There are multiple reports of SNAs not working like they were intended to but in general they are supposed to give you the ability to get a confirmed upgrade to the room/suite of your choice 5 days before you check in.
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Old Aug 30, 2022, 8:35 am
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Moxy Athens swallowed up one of my SNAs on OLCI!

Last month I had a one night stay in Athens at the Moxy. When I did OLCI on the day prior to the stay, the app looked different to normal (not sure if it was a new version or how it looks for Moxy stays) there was a 'Request Upgrade' button. Thinking this was just a new way of requesting the complementary upgrade I selected it. There were a couple of room types to choose from but none of them are suites anyway so I just picked whatever looked the best and completed the check-in.

Then I noticed that an SNA had instantly been subtracted from my account. I called the hotel immediately to try and get it removed but the hotel said that there was nothing they could do on their end and I had to call Marriott CS. So I contacted CS and raised a case number. The reservation was already past the cancellation window so cancelling to get the SNA returned was not an option at this point.

CS went quiet so I raised the issues with one of the lurkers here. The lurker was initially very positive and said I'll certainly be able to get the SNA returned in the circumstances. A few days later they came back and said there's nothing they can do because only the hotel can return the SNA (in contradiction to what the hotel told me) and the Moxy refused to do this. I asked once more if there is anything that can be done and they said they explained my situation to the hotel but the hotel resolutely refuses to return the SNA.

I had 5 SNAs left, which I was going to use on a 5-for-4 points redemption in Dubai this November (I'm burning my remaining points before full dynamic pricing). After the Moxy took one SNA during OLCI I now only have 4 SNAs so cannot use them on this redemption. Since it makes no sense to book a 4-night stay on points, these 4 remaining SNAs will likely go to waste (Dec 31 expiry).

I had always thought that SNAs were confirmed up to 5 days in advance, and after that they were not going to be actioned - I had no idea that SNAs could be swallowed up during OLCI itself, even when I had never submitted one beforehand. And obviously it makes zero sense to burn an SNA at this Moxy as they have zero suites anyway. The room I received was on a high floor but barely big enough to swing a cat in, so if there was any kind of upgrade it wasn't recognisable.

Has anyone else had this happen to them? Moxy ATH basically lied to me when I called them straight after OLCI (saying that only CS could rescind an SNA) and then refused to cooperate with the lurkers, who were initially adamant that I would be able to get the SNA returned, until they ran into the brick wall of the hotel management.
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Old Aug 30, 2022, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by yurtripper
Last month I had a one night stay in Athens at the Moxy. When I did OLCI on the day prior to the stay, the app looked different to normal (not sure if it was a new version or how it looks for Moxy stays) there was a 'Request Upgrade' button. Thinking this was just a new way of requesting the complementary upgrade I selected it. There were a couple of room types to choose from but none of them are suites anyway so I just picked whatever looked the best and completed the check-in. SNIP
Sympathy for your specific scenario (agree, total waste of an SNA at a Moxy and x100 given that it stops you using them on a 5-for-4 points redemption at a normal hotel) but if this is a new way to redeem SNAs then I'm excited by your story.

It would make SNAs significantly more valuable if they can be redeemed *and confirmed* at the point of OLCI. Probably better for hotels too because they will have a greater view of what suite inventory they're likely to have for non-cash customers a couple of days before the event when you can do OLCI so they're more likely to offer availability. Possibly.

Again, commiserations about your experience but a new dawn awaits.

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Old Aug 30, 2022, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by ftrichard
Sympathy for your specific scenario (agree, total waste of an SNA at a Moxy and x100 given that it stops you using them on a 5-for-4 points redemption at a normal hotel) but if this is a new way to redeem SNAs then I'm excited by your story.

It would make SNAs significantly more valuable if they can be redeemed *and confirmed* at the point of OLCI. Probably better for hotels too because they will have a greater view of what suite inventory they're lively to have for non-cash customers a couple of days before the event when you can do OLCI so they're more likely to offer availability. Possibly.

Again, commiserations about your experience but a new dawn awaits.
Thanks. I hadn't booked a stay since the beginning of May, due to the lack of any promo, so it had been over two months since any Marriott stay. The look-and-feel of the app was totally different to before, but from the look of it I assumed that this was because it was a Moxy stay (the OLCI screen had the exact same garish colour scheme as MOXY uses).

If they had totally revamped the SNA process in the way you described, I thought for sure I'd have seen plenty of discussion about this on FT, but hadn't heard anything at all, so I naturally assumed the OLCI would not have been completely reengineered to allow SNAs to be used in this new way.

BTW, there was absolutely nothing displayed during OLCI (in terms of wording) to indicate that an SNA was going to be used up. The only hint was the fact that a couple of room types appeared in a drop-down.
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Old Aug 30, 2022, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by cfischer
ugh ... that's BAD.
Yup, and I'm thinking that the system doesn't even process SNAs at this property. Perhaps they don't actually participate but you can request one on certain rooms starting from above the 'standard view' type. I saw the same behavior at the Ft Lauderdale Harbor Beach Marriott - can't use an SNA at a base room, but you can apply one if you start at a slightly higher than base category room. But you won't get an email at T-5 days that your request was confirmed or is pending, and you also won't get an email or the SNAs returned at T-1 day prior to arrival like it should.

I've tried communicating this to one of the lurkers but they don't seem to understand, and sending an email to marriott customer service is futile as they respond with nonsense.
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Old Sep 11, 2022, 10:18 am
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We are visiting NYC next month. We booked two hotels and applied SNA.

Hopefully one of them will clear SNA 5 days in advance so we can cancel the other one without penalty. I have enough SNAs in my account.

Is this permitted?
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