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SNA (Suite Night Award) General Discussion and Question Thread

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Recommended SNA Best Practices:
  1. According to the Marriott Lurkers in this forum (see post #220 in this thread), as confusing as it sounds, the SNA system is separate from the reservation system, so if a suite is showing as currently unavailable or available on the website, that does not necessarily mean it is currently unavailable or available for SNAs.
  2. As of March 2019, there is an IT bug on Marriott's website that prevents SNAs from being applied to many if not all prepaid reservations. One member has identified a workaround that enables you to "trick" the website into allowing you apply SNAs to prepaid reservation. Several members have reported success using this workaround to apply SNAs to their prepaid reservations. Hopefully Marriott will fix this IT bug in the near future.
  3. If your SNA clears, be sure to take a screen shot of what suite category you are assigned in the app and be prepared to show this to the front desk at check-in. Several members have reported being confirmed in certain suite categories when there SNAs have cleared or during mobile check-in only to be assigned lower a category room at check-in. Members who have taken screenshots of their initial SNA assignments have had success in getting properties to honor those original assignments after initially getting assigned inferior rooms at check-in.
  4. If you are assigned a lower category of room than any of the options offered during the SNA application process and/or if the hotel refuses honor the representations they made at any point during the SNA process, be sure to submit a formal complaint to Marriott and ask for your SNAs used during your stay to be reinstated. If you have followed the screenshot best practice, your screenshot should go a long way towards getting Marriott to eventually refund your SNA, although it may take a long time for customer service to process your request.
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Not all hotels participate in Suite Night Awards. Suite Night Awards are not redeemable at the following brands (subject to change at any time; see Marriott Bonvoy Terms and Conditions for full details): The Ritz-Carlton®, Protea Hotels®, Aloft®, Element®, Design Hotels™, all-suite hotels, Marriott Executive Apartments®, Marriott Vacation Club®, EDITION®, Ritz-Carlton Reserve®, The Ritz-Carlton Destination Clubs® and Marriott Grand Residence Club properties. In addition, Suite Night Awards are not redeemable at select Participating Properties. Contact Member Support for individual hotel Suite Night Award participation.

From post # 220.

The system is not checking what is available for sale at any marriott.com web site, so you should not be using the web sites as a guide for what is and is not available for SNA approval.

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

FOR ANYONE TRYING TO ADD SNAS TO PRE-PAID NONREFUNDABLE BOOKINGS THAT MARRIOTT IT
CURRENTLY DOESN’T SEEM TO ALLOW, HERE IS A POSSIBLE WORK-AROUND. GOOD LUCK!

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30575978-post541.html

Originally Posted by EuropeanPete View Post
All, I believe that I've found a way of getting around Marriott's IT issue where SNA's cannot be used on advance purchase rates. It takes advantage of another error in the Marriott IT system (go figure) where changes in different windows are not handled properly. It seems to work for me - would be great if 2 else can confirm.

For this to work, in addition to a pre-paid reservation where SNAs are disabled you need a rate at a hotel where SNA's are eligible - so go book a bog-standard fully flex rate at your local Westin or whatever which you can cancel later if you don't currently have any flexible rates booked.

Log in to Marriott.com and click on "My Trips" (obviously this won't work for people whose trips are still not showing). Open "View/ Modify" in a new browser window/ tab on the flexible reservation first, and then open "View/ Modify" in the non-refundable reservation in another new window/ tab. Go back to the flexible reservation and click on "Start Upgrade Request" and it should take you to a webpage for the pre-paid reservation where you can finally select your SNAs.

The link for selecting your benefit:
https://choice-benefit.marriott.com/
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Old Dec 21, 18, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by margarita girl View Post
Everything expires on Dec 31/19. If you choose Elite nights, they will be applied to 2018 even if you choose them in Jan 2019.
Thanks for confirming. I already have enough free nights between Marriott and Hyatt that I need to use up before the expiration datewithout getting more. I guess I'll just get the SNAs considering I had a good experience redeeming the 5 earned at the 50 night level for an Oceanfront Suite at the Sheraton Los Cabos. If they hadn't cleared, I'd have considered the free night.
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Old Dec 21, 18, 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by robertw477 View Post
If I make a booking within the next 3 days will the system let me know prior to me arriving at the hotel if the upgrade cleared?


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Yes. I made one recently that was only 3 days out and applied an SNA. The next morning I got an email confirming the upgrade.
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Old Dec 21, 18, 5:54 pm
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Has this always been the case?
I mean, it certainly *is* the case now - and I'm not sure why, though I guess I could rationalize this in some form of 3-dimensional chess kinda way...
Lurker has confirmed to me by email that this is currently a known systems issue and limitation. The "definition" of a prepaid rate is that it cannot be changed, and apparently, applying an SNA has to "modify" the booking but a prepaid booking will not allow the change.
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Old Dec 21, 18, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Fly Me To The Moon View Post
Lurker has confirmed to me by email that this is currently a known systems issue and limitation. The "definition" of a prepaid rate is that it cannot be changed, and apparently, applying an SNA has to "modify" the booking but a prepaid booking will not allow the change.
It was never an issue with the SPG system. Must be something to do with that fancy cloud based IT.
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Old Dec 21, 18, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by margarita girl View Post


It was never an issue with the SPG system. Must be something to do with that fancy cloud based IT.
Indeed, it is quite frustrating now!
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Old Dec 22, 18, 5:39 am
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Welp, so much for my SNAs...
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Old Dec 22, 18, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by Absolute View Post
Honestly... I wouldn't worry. The Marriott website doesn't work, simply put. Quite often I can't see my reservations, or get "An error has occurred", and have to try later or keep refreshing.

Like their removing hotel emails and going to faxes, it seems Marriott is moving away from having a working website to preferring you to call in.
You were right, the website corrected itself. Now my reservation for the Westin Palace is showing again under my Trips, with a new confirmation number and showing that its into a Junior Suite.
I am hoping i have same luck with trying to use the SNA at the Cotton House following the stay at the Westin, but not having my hopes high with the lack of suites at the Cotton House.
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Old Dec 22, 18, 9:05 am
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Long time reader on this forum but registering an account and hoping for some input on this matter.

5 nights stay on points at the St. Regis Florence upcoming from 12/24 to 12/29 and applied SNA on the stay. Received email with legacy SPG purple branding confirming suite night award upgrades on yesterday exactly 5 days ahead of the stay. The email stated that one, not five, suite night awards has been applied. The hotel name and reservation number fields were empty on this email.

This stay has disappeared since then on the list of my stays, although the count total on the Marriott website correctly reflects the number of upcoming stays I have booked (six). I was unable to look up my reservation using the confirmation number I received from the email back then when I first booked the stay.

Called in to Marriott/SPG as suggested by other commenters - called in to Marriott/SPG reservations/customer service and asked the associate to confirm if my stay is still visible and active in the Marriott/SPG system, but the associate is unable to see detailed breakdowns of any stay beyond my soonest upcoming stay (airport hotel), nor provide me with an updated confirmation number for the upcoming St. Regis Florence stay. The associate further told me that I have seven (!!) upcoming stays all with check-in date identical to my airport hotel stay. Call ended with the associate offering to create a service ticket request and to reach out to IT and St. Regis Florence, and suggesting that I call Marriott/SPG reservations/customer service again tomorrow if I hear back.
Did you ever hear back?

I have the exact same problem. SNA confirmed, upgrade email came (Hotel Name blank), reservation has dropped off SPG.com. I have My Trips = 2 but only 1 reservation shows. Can't see Res on the app either. I called SPG Platinum and he couldn't find it either. My next step was to call the hotel - haven't done that yet. I'm assuming it's all fine and Marriott IT is misbehaving.
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Old Dec 22, 18, 4:56 pm
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Mine have been horrible for the past 3 months

pre merger, FLL Westin, applied, granted, reservation cancelled, 2 SNA never returned. Have called and emailed abou 7 times so far, last being yesterday. I assume they are doa by now

4 weeks ago, Marriott Marquis, NYC, booked 2 dbl room, used SNA for 1 br suite since 20 year son was along. Only request I chose. Granted and approved. Upon Checkin, what did we have? 2 dbl Times Square view and an hour run around with the hotel.

Their first excuse, we did upgrade you 1 room type. I said this was a guaranteed 1br suite.
Then it was we gave you what you requested, um no.
Then it was well we can’t really see what you requested, we just upgraded you. To this was you did that after downgrading me since I have an email and screenshot of the guaranteed upgrade to a 1 br king.

Then they refused late checkout too
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Old Dec 22, 18, 8:05 pm
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Reservation completely missing from Marriott system after SNA got cleared

I am a Platinum Elite with Marriott (starwood actually) for last 10 years and I am a Gold Elite.
I got an email early in the morning (1:00 am PST) today saying that my Suite night Award is cleared for my upcoming stay in 4 days (December, 26) in Thailand.
When I went and looked into Marriott app and Marriott.com, I couldn't find the reservation. Called the CSR (18:00 hrs PST), they couldn't find the reservation either. After a long hold and transferring to the Supervisor and wait, they called the hotel in Thailand and they don't see any reservation nor any Suite night award being cleared.
What happens now? I have screenshot for all my upcoming reservations. I didn't cancel anything.
I have 10 reservations for my upcoming international vacation in both Thailand and Malaysia.
Should I trust Marriott and still plan all my stays with Marriott or should I cancel every reservation and safely stay in a non-Marriott property?
Or should I just wait until Marriott fixes this?
Have any one encountered this?

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Old Dec 22, 18, 9:38 pm
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Any help/advise?
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Old Dec 22, 18, 11:02 pm
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I have a reservation at St Regis New York on Christmas Eve and my SNA cleared just today but it disappeared. From my conversation with my Ambassador it seems they are having problems with the IT system and migration (after couple of months). It seems they are having issues with high end property (e.g. St Regis) - I suggest call the hotel to confirm.
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Old Dec 22, 18, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by LDNConsultant View Post
I have a reservation at St Regis New York on Christmas Eve and my SNA cleared just today but it disappeared. From my conversation with my Ambassador it seems they are having problems with the IT system and migration (after couple of months). It seems they are having issues with high end property (e.g. St Regis) - I suggest call the hotel to confirm.

very horrible, i experienced the same. it is another big bug in the IT system. Called reservation centre and seek help. Eventually the hotel called me and informed me that the reservation is in order in the hotel’s system.

For those who applied SNA please note this
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Old Dec 23, 18, 3:40 am
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Originally Posted by kay_jay View Post
I am a Platinum Elite with Marriott (starwood actually) for last 10 years and I am a Gold Elite.
I got an email early in the morning (1:00 am PST) today saying that my Suite night Award is cleared for my upcoming stay in 4 days (December, 26) in Thailand.
When I went and looked into Marriott app and Marriott.com, I couldn't find the reservation. Called the CSR (18:00 hrs PST), they couldn't find the reservation either. After a long hold and transferring to the Supervisor and wait, they called the hotel in Thailand and they don't see any reservation nor any Suite night award being cleared.
What happens now? I have screenshot for all my upcoming reservations. I didn't cancel anything.
I have 10 reservations for my upcoming international vacation in both Thailand and Malaysia.
Should I trust Marriott and still plan all my stays with Marriott or should I cancel every reservation and safely stay in a non-Marriott property?
Or should I just wait until Marriott fixes this?
Have any one encountered this?
This has already been reported in the SNA thread only a few days ago! Post # 478 and 502.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...thread-32.html


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Old Dec 23, 18, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by etsmyers View Post
pre merger, FLL Westin, applied, granted, reservation cancelled, 2 SNA never returned. Have called and emailed abou 7 times so far, last being yesterday. I assume they are doa by now
Since the SNAs will expire in a week do you really need them back? If so you need to call and press very hard for this. Otherwise, leave it be and don't stress yourself out. Unless, of course, you used newly minted SNAs that you earned this calendar year but didn't expire until the end of next year?!

Originally Posted by etsmyers View Post
Then it was well we can’t really see what you requested, we just upgraded you. To this was you did that after downgrading me since I have an email and screenshot of the guaranteed upgrade to a 1 br king.
Did you get compensation for them not honoring your guaranteed room type? I asked this up thread a few weeks ago as my SNA-confirmed reservation never updated to show the new room type. Although I was given the right upgraded room type at the hotel so I never found out if confirmed SNAs would get you guaranteed room type compensation if the hotel didn't honor the new room type from the SNAs.

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