derpelikan

that is great news. well ok, I had a bill at a ritz in tokyo which I hoped to get credited, but ok than I am out of luck

lbbzman

Slight correction. Since 8/18, you don't earn an elite bonus on non-stay dining.

From Loyalty Program Terms & Conditions:
Cheers,
LBBZman

controller1

​​​​​​​Of course YMMV ---

Marriott Bonvoy Lurker

When it comes to earning for dining only, the terms and conditions state:

2.1.b.ii.C > "Earning at restaurants without a stay is offered at all Participating Properties and Brands, except for Marriott Executive Apartments and ExecuStay, in Asia, Australia, and the Pacific Islands. It is also offered at the following Participating Properties and Brands in United States, Canada, Europe, Caribbean, Mexico, Central America, South America, Middle East, and Africa: St. Regis, The Luxury Collection, W, Sheraton, Le Méridien, Westin, Tribute Portfolio, Four Points, Aloft Hotels, and Element;..."

So, my personal understanding is that you can earn for dining only at all participating properties and brands in the AP region, but it is restricted to only legacy SPG participating properties and brands (minus Design Hotels) elsewhere. However, no elite bonus points are given for these types of transactions per the reference you provided.

kennycrudup

NVM, "gift horses" and all that

MasterGeek

Good luck getting someone who can figure out how to credit the points at the restaurants.

Points Scrounger

Since these are former SPG properties, most of the staff except the rather new hires are already used to dealing with this situation.

Flapster

I'd be interested to learn what makes a property 'Participating' or not.

I had my annual dinner at the JW Marriott in Hong Kong - would have been a nice, hefty bill. Unfortunately, they don't participate. No explanation given.

Thanks for the clarification - good to know

Marriott Bonvoy Lurker

My understanding is that "Participating property" means the hotel/resort participates in Marriott Bonvoy.

Does this passage from the terms and conditions describe this dinner?

"Charges incurred by the Member, without a stay in a guest room, for food and beverage (excluding alcoholic beverage where prohibited by law) at restaurants located within or adjacent to Participating Properties that offer this benefit if...the food and beverages are not in connection with a banquet, meeting or other function that is excluded from Qualifying Charges as provided in Section 2.1.b."

Section 2.1.b reads:

"Qualifying charges are...Food and beverages (excluding alcoholic beverages where prohibited by law) and may exclude charges incurred at outlets that are not managed or operated by the Participating Property..."

So, there is also the element of was the outlet managed or operated by the JW Marriott in Hong Kong?

You might want to submit the receipt to [email protected] if you feel it is eligible.

Flapster

No, I don't think that's right, I just think the property doesn't participate in this benefit. Indeed, they don't show up on this site: https://marriottbonvoyasia.com/R+B

Marriott Bonvoy Lurker

I think we might be speaking of two different things here. There is a dining discount program that not every Marriott Bonvoy participating property in AP is part of. However, that doesn't prevent them from participating in giving points for dining only charges. Unless, of course, the hotel doesn't manage or operate the venue or the transaction was in connection with a banquet, meeting or other function that is excluded from Qualifying Charges.

Flapster

Ok, understood, but I still think some hotels choose not to participate for whatever reason:

1. I specifically asked the hotel, and they simply said they do not participate
2. According to the website, if you click on 'Earn on Dining, Explore Now', you can then search Hong Kong, and the JW Marriott just doesn't appear.

So it seems that some hotels, even in Asia can exclude themselves from this benefit

RogerD408

Keep in mind some will say No when they really mean, I don't want to do the work to find out. I've rarely used this benefit, but each time I have a manager had to get involved. I can understand a server not knowing all the program details (just like many FDCs not knowing), but it seems if you approach a manager with confidence you know the rules they will go the extra mile to figure it out.

controller1

Same here. I've only used this benefit three times but each time the server had no idea of what I was speaking and I had to get a manager involved.

Points Scrounger

At my local Sheraton, the restaurant staff have no responsibility at all regarding points credit. One takes the receipt to the checkin desk for processing. At the local W, the food staff have taken care of it as part of settling the bill. At one Westin, the bartender replied he had done it often for the same regular, while at a Westin in a different city, the staff were unaware the possibility of non-guest credit was possible. They had me write my member# on their copy of the cc receipt and they'd "look into" it; I had to submit my copy later to Research for credit.

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