May 9, 2018, 11:36 am
Last edit by: rny321
PATHWAYS TO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE STATUS:
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
SPG Lifetime Platinums Can Now Qualify For Lifetime Titanium Status
May 21, 2018, 6:57 am
#406
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
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We have seen posters on FT refuse to believe a marketing material update/clarification because a CS operator said something else over the phone. There are posters who claim the Lurker's answer, which verbatim comes from the company, is incorrect because a clerk at the local CY said it would work differently. And we know the confusion that was started when an Asian exec gave erroneous information to the Australian press. It would be completely understandable if the company has told its communicators to stop answering specific questions and for now to stick to the official, vetted answers.
Last edited by CJKatl; May 21, 2018 at 7:06 am
May 21, 2018, 9:16 am
#408
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, AC Elite, Airmiles Gold, Hertz Gold Plus Rewards
Posts: 785
Not trying to be devil's advocate but how you would differentiate between SPG and Marriott nights after Aug 1st in the one and the same account? Manually? Case by case? I can see it done before accounts being combined....
May 21, 2018, 9:24 am
#409
Moderator, El Al and Marriott Bonvoy, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: SIN
Programs: SQ*G, Mar LTT, Hyatt Glb, AA LTG, LY, HH, IC, BA, DL, UA SLV
Posts: 12,018
Their IT systems know the heritage of the respective hotels.
May 21, 2018, 9:26 am
#410
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
So if someone has 10 Marriott stays and 13 SPG stays at the end of June, if the next stay is at a Mar property on Aug 15, the member will then have 11 Mar stays, 13 SPG stays and 24 combined stays, with counters showing each. What is so difficult about seeing how those tallies could each exist and be shown on the website?
May 21, 2018, 9:43 am
#411
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
May 21, 2018, 10:32 am
#412
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Hi William,Could you confirm B6F as well? All other responses in Section B are attributed to you, except 6F (combining nights):On August 1 when nights from SPG ie 700 are combined with nights from Marriott ie 300 will the total combined nights 1,000 make that member LTPP or does the member have to have 750 nights separately in one or the other program on August 1st? Can a member still achieves LTPP by Dec 31 by the same procedure either combining nights between SPG and Marriott to reach 750 nights or can they only earn by 750 nights separately in either Program?When a member merges their accounts in August, a current SPG Lifetime Platinum Preferred member would already have at least 10 years at Platinum Preferred status, thus they would only need to have at least 750 combined Lifetime nights to receive Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite Status, for which the combination of accounts adding up to 1,000 nights would qualify.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
May 21, 2018, 10:45 am
#413
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
It seems that everyone wants an individual confirmation of what their Lifetime status will be in the combined program. The information for 95% of the member database is already available and there are not enough hours in the day for us to confirm every account.
Then, there is the liability. What if any of us gets it wrong? Is your friend going to forgive and forget?
Personally, I don't blame Christina at all for not answering the question. I don't think I've answered anyone myself unless it was to point out the information already available to them.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
May 21, 2018, 11:08 am
#414
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Join Date: Dec 1999
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If his case is so cut and dried, why can't he determine the answer for himself?
It seems that everyone wants an individual confirmation of what their Lifetime status will be in the combined program. The information for 95% of the member database is already available and there are not enough hours in the day for us to confirm every account.
Then, there is the liability. What if any of us gets it wrong? Is your friend going to forgive and forget?
Personally, I don't blame Christina at all for not answering the question. I don't think I've answered anyone myself unless it was to point out the information already available to them.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
It seems that everyone wants an individual confirmation of what their Lifetime status will be in the combined program. The information for 95% of the member database is already available and there are not enough hours in the day for us to confirm every account.
Then, there is the liability. What if any of us gets it wrong? Is your friend going to forgive and forget?
Personally, I don't blame Christina at all for not answering the question. I don't think I've answered anyone myself unless it was to point out the information already available to them.
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
A calculator with all the variables would be an entertaining way to eliminate all these questions, but knowing how things go, it would only create more.
May 21, 2018, 12:51 pm
#415
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May 21, 2018, 2:09 pm
#416
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
A friend is very concerned about his LTPP status. He wrote to Starwood Lurkers yesterday:
Today he got the following reply:
His case seems pretty cut and dried. Why can't the Lurkers confirm his LT status?
Note: Whoever authorized the last enhancements to the FT website should be fired!
Today he got the following reply:
His case seems pretty cut and dried. Why can't the Lurkers confirm his LT status?
Note: Whoever authorized the last enhancements to the FT website should be fired!
May 21, 2018, 3:34 pm
#417
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Juan, PR
Programs: MR AMB/LT, AA EP, TK EP, DL D, B6 M4, F9 100K, IHG AMB/D, HH D, CZR D, FndCd, Sixt D, NTL E, Hz PC
Posts: 427
Haha. I'm at 667 lifetime SPG nights (including 40 so far this year). I think I'd "organically" end the year at 700. I think I have had some level of Marriott stays over the past 13 years, but probably mostly points stays from the past year or two, and unlikely more than 25 total.
Ordinarily I'd just book a bunch of travel for the rest of 2018, but I'm establishing residency in Puerto Rico and have to be there essentially uninterrupted from 23 June to 31 DEC (146 days of that period). There is a Cat 4 Marriott Courtyard, and a Cat 3 Four Points. It would be crazy to basically live in a Four Points for no good reason just to go from LTP to LTPP....
Ordinarily I'd just book a bunch of travel for the rest of 2018, but I'm establishing residency in Puerto Rico and have to be there essentially uninterrupted from 23 June to 31 DEC (146 days of that period). There is a Cat 4 Marriott Courtyard, and a Cat 3 Four Points. It would be crazy to basically live in a Four Points for no good reason just to go from LTP to LTPP....
May 21, 2018, 3:52 pm
#418
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Posts: 100,369
Haha. I'm at 667 lifetime SPG nights (including 40 so far this year). I think I'd "organically" end the year at 700. I think I have had some level of Marriott stays over the past 13 years, but probably mostly points stays from the past year or two, and unlikely more than 25 total.
Ordinarily I'd just book a bunch of travel for the rest of 2018, but I'm establishing residency in Puerto Rico and have to be there essentially uninterrupted from 23 June to 31 DEC (146 days of that period). There is a Cat 4 Marriott Courtyard, and a Cat 3 Four Points. It would be crazy to basically live in a Four Points for no good reason just to go from LTP to LTPP....
Ordinarily I'd just book a bunch of travel for the rest of 2018, but I'm establishing residency in Puerto Rico and have to be there essentially uninterrupted from 23 June to 31 DEC (146 days of that period). There is a Cat 4 Marriott Courtyard, and a Cat 3 Four Points. It would be crazy to basically live in a Four Points for no good reason just to go from LTP to LTPP....
Why don't you start by checking exactly how many lifetime Marriott nights you have? This can be checked on line easily, so there's no need to wait for hours to reach someone by phone, although you need to know your account number and have access to its email address if you have forgotten (or never established) your password.
Then you'll know exactly where you stand with respect to the LTPP requirements.
Then you'll know exactly where you stand with respect to the LTPP requirements.
May 21, 2018, 3:56 pm
#419
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: San Juan, PR
Programs: MR AMB/LT, AA EP, TK EP, DL D, B6 M4, F9 100K, IHG AMB/D, HH D, CZR D, FndCd, Sixt D, NTL E, Hz PC
Posts: 427
How? It wasn't really clear to me on the website once I'd logged in.
It says:
600
POINTS
0
NIGHTS
In my profile, which might be accurate if reward nights don't count -- I probably avoided paid Marriott stays.
It says:
600
POINTS
0
NIGHTS
In my profile, which might be accurate if reward nights don't count -- I probably avoided paid Marriott stays.
May 21, 2018, 4:06 pm
#420
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
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Go to account overview, nights detail, and scroll down IIRC. Mine shows nights to renew Plat and then lifetime information.