May 9, 2018, 11:36 am
Last edit by: rny321
PATHWAYS TO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE STATUS:
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
SPG Lifetime Platinums Can Now Qualify For Lifetime Titanium Status
May 11, 2018, 1:03 pm
#226
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: CLE
Programs: UA GS+LT UC, AA EXP+LT PLT, Fairmont LT PLT, Marriott PLT, Hilton DIA, Hyatt Glob, Avis CHM
Posts: 4,671
I don't understand why Marriott members can qualify via points or years elite and SPG members can't qualify via points.
How will it work for a Marriott members to earn 2MM points if they're short on 8/1. Will they be able to earn points at SPG hotels and count it towards the 2MM? Or they can only earn at legacy Marriott hotels?
How will it work for a Marriott members to earn 2MM points if they're short on 8/1. Will they be able to earn points at SPG hotels and count it towards the 2MM? Or they can only earn at legacy Marriott hotels?
May 11, 2018, 1:36 pm
#227
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
True. Depends on your luck and property. My biggest scores were 15 nights each at 2 nice beach resorts and 10 nights at now gone Westin Our Luckaya (Bahamas), plus maybe a dozen of over 6 nights stays at a big city property (there I would stay 3-4 times a year for 10 years). Not giving actual names as do not want other plats to flood them and ask for similar treatment 
. Many failures as well. But I don't have much experience staying over 5 nights in the same place except my 2 or 3 regular spots. 5 nights upgrades I have had a bunch. But this belongs to a different thread I guess.
. Many failures as well. But I don't have much experience staying over 5 nights in the same place except my 2 or 3 regular spots. 5 nights upgrades I have had a bunch. But this belongs to a different thread I guess.
May 11, 2018, 1:40 pm
#228
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: CT/NY
Programs: UA 1K/1MM, AA EXP, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 6,020
My first post, please kindly help me
--> I have been quite a loyalty to SPG.
Now SPG Lifetime Gold
- 750+ SPG lifetime nights
- SPG Member since 2008 with 10 years elite(I don't understand this)
- Less than 10 MR nights
- 8 Years SPG PLT(2018 included)
If this year I do 75 nights MR--> I will get +1 Platinum year toward the unified program --> 9 years
I am quite sad about my situation just 1 year short for the LTPP.
Is that anything I can do to get this.
BTW, I don't know why MR has to discontinueLTPP staus.
--> I have been quite a loyalty to SPG.
Now SPG Lifetime Gold
- 750+ SPG lifetime nights
- SPG Member since 2008 with 10 years elite(I don't understand this)
- Less than 10 MR nights
- 8 Years SPG PLT(2018 included)
If this year I do 75 nights MR--> I will get +1 Platinum year toward the unified program --> 9 years
I am quite sad about my situation just 1 year short for the LTPP.
Is that anything I can do to get this.
BTW, I don't know why MR has to discontinueLTPP staus.
Based on your circumstances, the only way to achieve LTPP is via 750 MR nights and 2MM points between now and 12/31, which is unlikely but not impossible. However, LT Platinum is within your reach next year, and you can use the extra year to accelerate the process.
I don't understand why Marriott members can qualify via points or years elite and SPG members can't qualify via points.
How will it work for a Marriott members to earn 2MM points if they're short on 8/1. Will they be able to earn points at SPG hotels and count it towards the 2MM? Or they can only earn at legacy Marriott hotels?
How will it work for a Marriott members to earn 2MM points if they're short on 8/1. Will they be able to earn points at SPG hotels and count it towards the 2MM? Or they can only earn at legacy Marriott hotels?
* not accounting for bonus/promotional miles, miles earned via credit cards, airline partners, etc.
May 11, 2018, 1:43 pm
#229
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
I've stayed at hundreds of SPG properties around the world (if I got my 1,725 SPG nights at only a few properties, I think I'd go insane) and I got upgrades as a SPG P/LTP out the wazoo. I will miss this the most about the new program... I expect it to be somewhere in the middle of the stinginess of MR and the "spirit" of SPG.
May 11, 2018, 2:03 pm
#230
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, AC Elite, Airmiles Gold, Hertz Gold Plus Rewards
Posts: 785
I've stayed at hundreds of SPG properties around the world (if I got my 1,725 SPG nights at only a few properties, I think I'd go insane) and I got upgrades as a SPG P/LTP out the wazoo. I will miss this the most about the new program... I expect it to be somewhere in the middle of the stinginess of MR and the "spirit" of SPG.
). Let's hope for the best. I stopped counting my props at 104 (I don't know why), all 5 SPG continents. Upgrades left, right and center. Same goes for failures. On a positive note -- tried Marriott first time 6 weeks ago in Japan in locations where SPG wasn't present -- Shinagawa, Fuji and Nagano area. Got upgraded to 1 full suite with the full view of Fuji Mountain (small but Japanese style, kids loved sleeping on tatami in the sitting room) and two good size junior suites. One hotel was near empty, 2 -- pretty full.
May 11, 2018, 2:25 pm
#231
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, AC Elite, Airmiles Gold, Hertz Gold Plus Rewards
Posts: 785
Thank you for bringing good memories. 2 or 3 times I was specifically told by front desk that my extended stay will be in a full suite. I politely obliged True, LCs like longer stays -- fewer people can afford them (both $$, points and time constraints). Even fewer can afford suites. Many Grand Dames in Europe start from €1K.The funniest comment though was last Christmas at Sheraton Porto. FD manager regretted that my upgraded junior suite would be ready only after 4PM. We were there at 11AM (I'm not P75+, so no 24). Apologetically, he offered full executive suite. What can I say?Le roi est mort, vive le roi!, SPG is dead, long live Marriott!
True, LCs like longer stays -- fewer people can afford them (both $$, points and time constraints). Even fewer can afford suites. Many Grand Dames in Europe start from €1K.The funniest comment though was last Christmas at Sheraton Porto. FD manager regretted that my upgraded junior suite would be ready only after 4PM. We were there at 11AM (I'm not P75+, so no 24). Apologetically, he offered full executive suite. What can I say?Le roi est mort, vive le roi!, SPG is dead, long live Marriott!
May 11, 2018, 2:33 pm
#232
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,255
Thank you for bringing good memories. 2 or 3 times I was specifically told by front desk that my extended stay will be in a full suite. I politely obliged True, LCs like longer stays -- fewer people can afford them (both $$, points and time constraints). Even fewer can afford suites. Many Grand Dames in Europe start from €1K.The funniest comment though was last Christmas at Sheraton Porto. FD manager regretted that my upgraded junior suite would be ready only after 4PM. We were there at 11AM (I'm not P75+, so no 24). Apologetically, he offered full executive suite. What can I say?Le roi est mort, vive le roi!, SPG is dead, long live Marriott!
True, LCs like longer stays -- fewer people can afford them (both $$, points and time constraints). Even fewer can afford suites. Many Grand Dames in Europe start from €1K.The funniest comment though was last Christmas at Sheraton Porto. FD manager regretted that my upgraded junior suite would be ready only after 4PM. We were there at 11AM (I'm not P75+, so no 24). Apologetically, he offered full executive suite. What can I say?Le roi est mort, vive le roi!, SPG is dead, long live Marriott!My upgrade successes totally kill the failures... 90% successes of varying degrees.
One of many that come to mind that's similar to your situation, when I checked in one morning at the Sheraton Warsaw (by that point I had already stayed there a few times) they said my junior suite wasn't ready and apologized. I asked if they could put me into any room available so that I could simply nap and take a shower as I had to be up in the evening, and was quite tired from my TATL journey that morning. They obliged and I got my basic room to nap and freshen up. I then got a call from FDM and they apologized for the wait and said my room was now ready and they would slip the new keys under my door.
I got to my room. It was the Presidential Suite! (if anyone has stayed at the Sheraton Warsaw's Presidential Suite, they will most likely agree with me that it is one of the largest Pres Suites in SPG at the time... even larger than the ones at Le Meridein Hamburg or the former Le Meridien Vilnius and several others I've been in.
May 11, 2018, 3:21 pm
#233
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Starwood:Lifetime Platinum, Air Canada:Basic, Asiana:Lifetime Diamond Plus, ANA: Basic
Posts: 980
This happened often to me at various properties as well!
My upgrade successes totally kill the failures... 90% successes of varying degrees.
One of many that come to mind that's similar to your situation, when I checked in one morning at the Sheraton Warsaw (by that point I had already stayed there a few times) they said my junior suite wasn't ready and apologized. I asked if they could put me into any room available so that I could simply nap and take a shower as I had to be up in the evening, and was quite tired from my TATL journey that morning. They obliged and I got my basic room to nap and freshen up. I then got a call from FDM and they apologized for the wait and said my room was now ready and they would slip the new keys under my door.
I got to my room. It was the Presidential Suite! (if anyone has stayed at the Sheraton Warsaw's Presidential Suite, they will most likely agree with me that it is one of the largest Pres Suites in SPG at the time... even larger than the ones at Le Meridein Hamburg or the former Le Meridien Vilnius and several others I've been in.
My upgrade successes totally kill the failures... 90% successes of varying degrees.
One of many that come to mind that's similar to your situation, when I checked in one morning at the Sheraton Warsaw (by that point I had already stayed there a few times) they said my junior suite wasn't ready and apologized. I asked if they could put me into any room available so that I could simply nap and take a shower as I had to be up in the evening, and was quite tired from my TATL journey that morning. They obliged and I got my basic room to nap and freshen up. I then got a call from FDM and they apologized for the wait and said my room was now ready and they would slip the new keys under my door.
I got to my room. It was the Presidential Suite! (if anyone has stayed at the Sheraton Warsaw's Presidential Suite, they will most likely agree with me that it is one of the largest Pres Suites in SPG at the time... even larger than the ones at Le Meridein Hamburg or the former Le Meridien Vilnius and several others I've been in.
The old Le Meridian Shinagawa Tokyo - 2 room suite (first time ever getting one so it was memorable)
The old Le Meridian Grand Pacific Tokyo (in Daiba) - big ocean view room
Westin Seattle - presidential suite I think it is - biggest I ever had in all these years
The St. Regis Princeville Resort Hawaii - a wonderful ocean suite
Excelsior Hotel Gallia, a Luxury Collection Hotel, Milan - a suite AND got driven around in a Bentley (first time in one of those cars)...
W Hong Kong - the only W that gave me a suite in the first few years it opened - it was huge and high tech without enough "human" consideration
The Prince Gallery Tokyo Kioicho, a Luxury Collection Hotel - a huge suite on my first visit - good memories because.... I got a date there.
Some after staying for a decade finally gotten some suites out of it in the last 2 years
Westin Tokyo - Suite upgrade started happening on my 7th year of half-yearly visits
Sheraton Miyako Tokyo - upgrade to the top floor - after 8th year of annual visits every year
The place that I turn down a suite on vacation
Sheraton Hong Kong - I like their Ocean View rooms much much more. Top floor "tower" Ocean view rooms are good too - especially during fireworks
I will truly miss all this. I think our upgrade success rate would drop drastically next year. This year, we still have the 10 SNA in our arsenal to soften the impact.
May 11, 2018, 4:06 pm
#234
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, AC Elite, Airmiles Gold, Hertz Gold Plus Rewards
Posts: 785
I got sprinkles of good upgrades through the years. The most valuable is when I am on vacation and those upgrades happen. My standards are quite low.
The old Le Meridian Shinagawa Tokyo - 2 room suite (first time ever getting one so it was memorable)
The old Le Meridian Grand Pacific Tokyo (in Daiba) - big ocean view room
Westin Seattle - presidential suite I think it is - biggest I ever had in all these years
The St. Regis Princeville Resort Hawaii - a wonderful ocean suite
Excelsior Hotel Gallia, a Luxury Collection Hotel, Milan - a suite AND got driven around in a Bentley (first time in one of those cars)...
W Hong Kong - the only W that gave me a suite in the first few years it opened - it was huge and high tech without enough "human" consideration
The Prince Gallery Tokyo Kioicho, a Luxury Collection Hotel - a huge suite on my first visit - good memories because.... I got a date there.
Some after staying for a decade finally gotten some suites out of it in the last 2 years
Westin Tokyo - Suite upgrade started happening on my 7th year of half-yearly visits
Sheraton Miyako Tokyo - upgrade to the top floor - after 8th year of annual visits every year
The place that I turn down a suite on vacation
Sheraton Hong Kong - I like their Ocean View rooms much much more. Top floor "tower" Ocean view rooms are good too - especially during fireworks
I will truly miss all this. I think our upgrade success rate would drop drastically next year. This year, we still have the 10 SNA in our arsenal to soften the impact.
The old Le Meridian Shinagawa Tokyo - 2 room suite (first time ever getting one so it was memorable)
The old Le Meridian Grand Pacific Tokyo (in Daiba) - big ocean view room
Westin Seattle - presidential suite I think it is - biggest I ever had in all these years
The St. Regis Princeville Resort Hawaii - a wonderful ocean suite
Excelsior Hotel Gallia, a Luxury Collection Hotel, Milan - a suite AND got driven around in a Bentley (first time in one of those cars)...
W Hong Kong - the only W that gave me a suite in the first few years it opened - it was huge and high tech without enough "human" consideration
The Prince Gallery Tokyo Kioicho, a Luxury Collection Hotel - a huge suite on my first visit - good memories because.... I got a date there.
Some after staying for a decade finally gotten some suites out of it in the last 2 years
Westin Tokyo - Suite upgrade started happening on my 7th year of half-yearly visits
Sheraton Miyako Tokyo - upgrade to the top floor - after 8th year of annual visits every year
The place that I turn down a suite on vacation
Sheraton Hong Kong - I like their Ocean View rooms much much more. Top floor "tower" Ocean view rooms are good too - especially during fireworks
I will truly miss all this. I think our upgrade success rate would drop drastically next year. This year, we still have the 10 SNA in our arsenal to soften the impact.
SNAs in my opinion are not much value. Many times got rejected but upgraded upon arrival. Got sometimes some upgrades but my also plat buddy got same or better in the same hotel w/o SNAs. His even couldn't apply his at Grand Bretagne in Athens but got same size suite with palace view. I got same size but with back street view with SNAs (better for me -- I hate noise). In 2016 I was trying to apply them at a number of nondescript props along US coast, some of them 3 times each! -- ended up with 9 of them expiring. It was end of August though but still...
May 11, 2018, 7:00 pm
#235
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Is combining programs the same as linking programs? I'm linked now so I can, for example, move points between SPG and MR. Will there be anything more to be done in August?
May 11, 2018, 7:40 pm
#237
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
Starting in August combining is a seperate process that the member will have to perform if and when desired.
May 11, 2018, 7:57 pm
#239
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Jakarta
Programs: *wood & marriott plat, Hyatt, Accor
Posts: 410
Thanks Marriott... I've got over 750 nights and LTP at *wood am really glad will be grand fathered to LTPP. Will be staying about 75 nights combine between the two programs. Look forward to the merger.
