May 9, 2018, 11:36 am
Last edit by: rny321
PATHWAYS TO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE STATUS:
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
SPG Lifetime Platinums Can Now Qualify For Lifetime Titanium Status
Jan 3, 2019, 6:19 am
#1246
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Jan 3, 2019, 6:39 am
#1247
Join Date: Dec 2000
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I guess in that case, LTPP would be then considered lower status to PP? And if you are LTPP + AMB, the AMB would show up in the system instead of your LTPP status.....
Jan 3, 2019, 6:45 am
#1248
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No, LTPP should be treated as PP unless the person currently has higher status.
Jan 3, 2019, 7:33 am
#1250
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
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Also, may be a confusion with when they will be cutting off the Annual Choice selection for 2018, which seems confused right now with everyone's account reset.
Last edited by RogerD408; Jan 3, 2019 at 7:47 am Reason: more info
Jan 3, 2019, 7:36 am
#1251
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
Programs: SQ Krisflyer, QR Privilege Club, MB LT Plt (1K+ nights thx MB)
Posts: 1,038
The 13th of Jan? Call me a skeptic but I am doubtful... They need to amend the tenor year counters prior to doing the sweep ... but maybe the center of excellence at MAR IT have not thought about that ...
Jan 3, 2019, 9:15 am
#1252
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: EWR
Posts: 245
The more in-depth story (if anyone is interested) is that I called MR to see why my status is still Lifetime Platinum instead of Lifetime Platinum Premier. The initial response is that I didn't qualify for it because I hadn't accumulated 2 million MR points. After explaining that according to their terms and conditions, I would have qualified for it several years ago (current status is 873 nights and 16 years as Platinum), they put me on hold for 15 minutes and then told me that I do indeed qualify, but my status won't be updated until the sweep occurring on January 13th.
Jan 3, 2019, 9:33 am
#1253
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
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The more in-depth story (if anyone is interested) is that I called MR to see why my status is still Lifetime Platinum instead of Lifetime Platinum Premier. The initial response is that I didn't qualify for it because I hadn't accumulated 2 million MR points. After explaining that according to their terms and conditions, I would have qualified for it several years ago (current status is 873 nights and 16 years as Platinum), they put me on hold for 15 minutes and then told me that I do indeed qualify, but my status won't be updated until the sweep occurring on January 13th.
Jan 4, 2019, 5:58 am
#1254
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,657
Going to hold my breath till the 13th. So far NO update in "Years towards Lifetime" counter since I requalified for Platinum in 2018 under the SPG legacy rules...after I combined accounts I also had more than 50 nights so essentially requalified with both stays and nights. I was completing Year #10 in 2018 so the fact that 2018 hasn't been added to the count it keeps me from getting Lifetime....or Lifetime Platinum Premier since I have a combined night total of over 800 nights. So sick of Marriott IT!
Jan 4, 2019, 6:13 am
#1255
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Going to hold my breath till the 13th. So far NO update in "Years towards Lifetime" counter since I requalified for Platinum in 2018 under the SPG legacy rules...after I combined accounts I also had more than 50 nights so essentially requalified with both stays and nights. I was completing Year #10 in 2018 so the fact that 2018 hasn't been added to the count it keeps me from getting Lifetime....or Lifetime Platinum Premier since I have a combined night total of over 800 nights. So sick of Marriott IT!
Are you expecting to get two years Plat credit for the same year? From your post I understand that you got SPG Plat first from stays, and your counter increased. Then you requalified again on the basis of 50 nights (mostly or all SPG, but maybe some MR too, although you mention stays again at this point which is confusing as legacy MR and the new combined program never looked at stays) and expected another Plat year?
To get two years Plat in for 2018, you would need to qualify in legacy SPG (by 25 SPG only stays or 50 SPG only nights) and also legacy MR (by 75 MR only nights or 50 MR only nights for legacy MR Gold which counts as a Plat year), not in SPG and then again by counting the same nights for the new combined program.
To get two years Plat in for 2018, you would need to qualify in legacy SPG (by 25 SPG only stays or 50 SPG only nights) and also legacy MR (by 75 MR only nights or 50 MR only nights for legacy MR Gold which counts as a Plat year), not in SPG and then again by counting the same nights for the new combined program.
Jan 4, 2019, 6:55 am
#1256
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
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Posts: 1,038
Going to hold my breath till the 13th. So far NO update in "Years towards Lifetime" counter since I requalified for Platinum in 2018 under the SPG legacy rules...after I combined accounts I also had more than 50 nights so essentially requalified with both stays and nights. I was completing Year #10 in 2018 so the fact that 2018 hasn't been added to the count it keeps me from getting Lifetime....or Lifetime Platinum Premier since I have a combined night total of over 800 nights. So sick of Marriott IT!
Jan 4, 2019, 7:58 am
#1257
Join Date: Jul 2003
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No.
1. I was at 9 years (and over 600 nights) of Platinum at the beginning of 2018. (So I needed 2018 as Year #10 )
2. I completed the necessary 25 stays (45 nights) at legacy SPG properties by Dec. 2018 mid-month. (NO update in Lifetime YEARS counter to reflect 10 years since according to MR they were no longer tracking stays. I was told this would be a manual adjustment.)
3. I merged my accounts 12/31 and total I was at 53 (45 SPG and 8 MR) nights combined for 2018. (NO update in Lifetime YEARS counter.)
4. Today my counters show 823 combined nights and 9 years as Platinum since 2018 is not added yet. (which would have been year 10)
I guess the confusion I created was in saying that 2018 should have been year 10 regardless if they did it by the 25 stays I completed at Legacy SPG properties OR if it was achieved by the 53 nights in the combined program. Regardless all I am looking for is 2018 to be counted as 1 year to get my 10th year!
If I understand you correctly none of your 2018 activity has been reflected in the tenor year counter(s)? Did you hit the 50 nights threshold after you combined the accounts? ... and as mentioned previously you cannot get a year for 25 SPG stays AND another year for 50 SPG nights it has to be 25 SPG stays AND 75 MR nights (some would argue that 50 MR nights would be sufficient) which theoretically at least would yield two tenor years
2. I completed the necessary 25 stays (45 nights) at legacy SPG properties by Dec. 2018 mid-month. (NO update in Lifetime YEARS counter to reflect 10 years since according to MR they were no longer tracking stays. I was told this would be a manual adjustment.)
3. I merged my accounts 12/31 and total I was at 53 (45 SPG and 8 MR) nights combined for 2018. (NO update in Lifetime YEARS counter.)
4. Today my counters show 823 combined nights and 9 years as Platinum since 2018 is not added yet. (which would have been year 10)
I guess the confusion I created was in saying that 2018 should have been year 10 regardless if they did it by the 25 stays I completed at Legacy SPG properties OR if it was achieved by the 53 nights in the combined program. Regardless all I am looking for is 2018 to be counted as 1 year to get my 10th year!
Last edited by christianj; Jan 4, 2019 at 8:09 am
Jan 4, 2019, 8:16 am
#1258
Join Date: May 2003
Location: LCY
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1. I was at 9 years (and over 600 nights) of Platinum at the beginning of 2018. (So I needed 2018 as Year #10 )
2. I completed the necessary 25 stays (45 nights) at legacy SPG properties by Dec. 2018 mid-month. (NO update in Lifetime YEARS counter to reflect 10 years since according to MR they were no longer tracking stays. I was told this would be a manual adjustment.)
3. I merged my accounts 12/31 and total I was at 53 (45 SPG and 8 MR) nights combined for 2018. (NO update in Lifetime YEARS counter.)
4. Today my counters show 823 combined nights and 9 years as Platinum since 2018 is not added yet. (which would have been year 10)
I guess the confusion I created was in saying that 2018 should have been year 10 regardless if they did it by the 25 stays I completed at Legacy SPG properties OR if it was done after combining by the 53 nights.
2. I completed the necessary 25 stays (45 nights) at legacy SPG properties by Dec. 2018 mid-month. (NO update in Lifetime YEARS counter to reflect 10 years since according to MR they were no longer tracking stays. I was told this would be a manual adjustment.)
3. I merged my accounts 12/31 and total I was at 53 (45 SPG and 8 MR) nights combined for 2018. (NO update in Lifetime YEARS counter.)
4. Today my counters show 823 combined nights and 9 years as Platinum since 2018 is not added yet. (which would have been year 10)
I guess the confusion I created was in saying that 2018 should have been year 10 regardless if they did it by the 25 stays I completed at Legacy SPG properties OR if it was done after combining by the 53 nights.
If I were you I would wait and see if the year due to combined nights posts and then if my LT status is stuck at LTP I would call in and argue for my 10th year to count towards LTPP ... just my 5 cents ... Lets first see if the tenor year due to combined nights posts ...
Jan 4, 2019, 12:04 pm
#1259
Join Date: Apr 2004
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