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Old Nov 13, 2018, 11:30 am
  #1246  
 
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Originally Posted by Commie
I received an email from my assigned Ambassador today. Which is pretty quick I think, I just crossed the threshold over the weekend.
The email was the standard introduction and then a series of questions on my preferences.
Looks like I got assigned from someone in the 402 area code, and I am in Ontario Canada.
What kind of preferences if I may ask?

I never got asked my preferences by my ambassador.
(only set those preferences about room and pillows etc on the apps)
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
Starwood had a policy that if you received an upgrade, you were entitled to the benefits that came with that room, regardless of how you got there. The Lurkers have also confirmed this and gotten involved when rogue properties tried to deny benefits.

I would ask the Lurkers whether this policy is still in place and whether they can intervene on your behalf.
The policy is still in place with regard to legacy SPG properties; however, this is a legacy MR property so it would have to be escalated through legacy Marriott customer service since - at the moment - we are unable to open cases on those hotels.

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Old Nov 13, 2018, 11:34 am
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Any chance to know what would be the upgrade policy for legacy Marriott properties ?

Thanks!
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
The policy is still in place with regard to legacy SPG properties; however, this is a legacy MR property so it would have to be escalated through legacy Marriott customer service since - at the moment - we are unable to open cases on those hotels.

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Marriott International

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Thanks, William.

That’s most surprising and extremely disappointing that Marriott has integrated the loyalty programs and yet isn’t yet applying the same basic upgrade policy standards to the bulk of both legacy portfolios. I can appreciate minor benefit differences, like RC Clubs and breakfast not being included for the normal Plat benefits, and even that only Plat Premiers are eligible for RC suite upgrades (though it still is a bit silly to me).

But the concept that a room or suite upgrade anywhere should be given the full benefits for the upgraded room or suite seem so obvious that not offering that feels incredibly petty and cheap.

Also, the fact that Lurkers can’t open a case on legacy Marriott properties after the integration (which follows 2 years of planning!) smacks of even further incompetence and downright negligence on the part of Marriott leadership and IT. Marriott is obviating one of the greatest customer service strengths of SPG by hamstringing the Lurkers.
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by bhrubin


Thanks, William.

That’s most surprising and extremely disappointing that Marriott has integrated the loyalty programs and yet isn’t yet applying the same basic upgrade policy standards to the bulk of both legacy portfolios. I can appreciate minor benefit differences, like RC Clubs and breakfast not being included for the normal Plat benefits, and even that only Plat Premiers are eligible for RC suite upgrades (though it still is a bit silly to me).

But the concept that a room or suite upgrade anywhere should be given the full benefits for the upgraded room or suite seem so obvious that not offering that feels incredibly petty and cheap.

Also, the fact that Lurkers can’t open a case on legacy Marriott properties after the integration (which follows 2 years of planning!) smacks of even further incompetence and downright negligence on the part of Marriott leadership and IT. Marriott is obviating one of the greatest customer service strengths of SPG by hamstringing the Lurkers.
Be careful what you wish for. It would be far easier for Marriott to tell legacy SPG properties that they no longer have to offer benefits on upgrades than to tell thousands of Marriott properties that they now have to offer benefits they've never honored.

There's a reason there are so many rabid SPG members. Company policy is one, Starwood Lurkers is another.
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by bhrubin


Thanks, William.

That’s most surprising and extremely disappointing that Marriott has integrated the loyalty programs and yet isn’t yet applying the same basic upgrade policy standards to the bulk of both legacy portfolios. I can appreciate minor benefit differences, like RC Clubs and breakfast not being included for the normal Plat benefits, and even that only Plat Premiers are eligible for RC suite upgrades (though it still is a bit silly to me).

But the concept that a room or suite upgrade anywhere should be given the full benefits for the upgraded room or suite seem so obvious that not offering that feels incredibly petty and cheap.


Apologies if I wasn't clear, but I just do not know how legacy Marriott customer service handles these complaints. For all, I know it is exactly the same.

Also, the fact that Lurkers can’t open a case on legacy Marriott properties after the integration (which follows 2 years of planning!) smacks of even further incompetence and downright negligence on the part of Marriott leadership and IT. Marriott is obviating one of the greatest customer service strengths of SPG by hamstringing the Lurkers.
I think it is just an acknowledgement that they are more familiar with legacy Marriott customer service than we are and have the tools in place to handle those issues. Also, I anticipate this is just a temporary status as we gain access to more knowledge and tools.

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Old Nov 13, 2018, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
J.W. Marriott Grosvenor House. A suite night award certificate cleared for the premium park suite, the second-highest category of suites. Basically, the hotel told me I had a "free upgrade" and, as such, wasn't entitled to any of the benefits or privileges that come with suites at this property. For three nights I didn't receive turndown service.

Yes, I communicated my disappointment with the property as well as the ambassador. Here is what the ambassador said:



Here was my response:
I think its ridiculous not to offer turndown service for that reason but I believe your response to the AMB was spot on. There is and should be a vast distinction between the Platinum levels otherwise what is the incentive to go past 50 nights.
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Zol
I think its ridiculous not to offer turndown service for that reason but I believe your response to the AMB was spot on. There is and should be a vast distinction between the Platinum levels otherwise what is the incentive to go past 50 nights.
I do believe the JW Marriott Grosvenor House management needs a serious spanking. I could care less if it’s a “regular” Plat or a Plat Premier w Ambassador. A Plat should get upgraded if it’s available. And if one gets upgraded, don’t be so cheap as to withhold the benefits of the upgrade. Come on.

This management team is operating tone deaf and without any perspective for why they look so petty and foolish. When a St Regis can upgrade any Plat to a suite and thereby give them butler service, let alone the other benefits of the room, there’s no reason their pitiful excuse for a luxury hotel cannot do remotely the same with mere turndown service. Except for being pitifully cheap.

And one wonders why so many in the luxury arena laugh whenever anyone tries to put JW Marriott as a proper luxury brand. This is yet another case in point.
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 6:59 pm
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I asked my ambassador about the lounges in the resorts and who gets access to them if it is not platinum premier members anymore. It sounds as if it is turning into a paid benefit (book the club room and you enjoy the lounge access). I recall thinking okay, well it is likely similar to Hilton where if you get upgraded to the suite on the club floor, then you get lounge access. But it sounds like, from what I am reading here, that is not the case and Hilton holds superior in terms of this benefit. That is a shame as it conveys to the platinum and platinum premier members that their loyalty really means very little anymore.
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by kaizen7
What kind of preferences if I may ask?

I never got asked my preferences by my ambassador.
(only set those preferences about room and pillows etc on the apps)
It was about if I prefer sweets or salty snacks,
do I prefer beer, wine, soda, water, etc..
any preferred drinks,
what is my favourite form of ‘indulgences’
any special occasions coming up

stuff like that.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 1:43 am
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Originally Posted by Commie


It was about if I prefer sweets or salty snacks,
do I prefer beer, wine, soda, water, etc..
any preferred drinks,
what is my favourite form of ‘indulgences’
any special occasions coming up

stuff like that.
haven't received that either :/
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 1:57 am
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I didnt get that as well. My amb only mentioned that if I happen to have any upcoming special occassion stays let her know. And also inform her on any booking I made myself through the apps.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by bhrubin


Thanks, William.

That’s most surprising and extremely disappointing that Marriott has integrated the loyalty programs and yet isn’t yet applying the same basic upgrade policy standards to the bulk of both legacy portfolios. I can appreciate minor benefit differences, like RC Clubs and breakfast not being included for the normal Plat benefits, and even that only Plat Premiers are eligible for RC suite upgrades (though it still is a bit silly to me).

But the concept that a room or suite upgrade anywhere should be given the full benefits for the upgraded room or suite seem so obvious that not offering that feels incredibly petty and cheap.

Also, the fact that Lurkers can’t open a case on legacy Marriott properties after the integration (which follows 2 years of planning!) smacks of even further incompetence and downright negligence on the part of Marriott leadership and IT. Marriott is obviating one of the greatest customer service strengths of SPG by hamstringing the Lurkers.
Would you like to know what else is extremely disappointing?

I've been informed twice that 100 nights at SPG equates to ambassador qualification for 2018 regardless of spend.
Spouse is sitting at 103 nights and she will not qualify for ambassador for 2018 as she has to meet the spend requirement because hers are Marriott nights. ...???

Didn't Marriott buy Starwood?
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by txpenny
Would you like to know what else is extremely disappointing?

I've been informed twice that 100 nights at SPG equates to ambassador qualification for 2018 regardless of spend.
Spouse is sitting at 103 nights and she will not qualify for ambassador for 2018 as she has to meet the spend requirement because hers are Marriott nights. ...???

Didn't Marriott buy Starwood?
Sorry, but I don’t agree with you. That isn’t disappointing at all.

SPG had an established and published Ambassador program with defined benefits that required staying 100 nights at legacy SPG hotels. Marriott didn’t offer a published Ambassador program until the Aug 18 integration.

For only 2018, your wife therefore has 2 options to reach Ambassador status. She can either have 100 nights entirely in legacy SPG hotels, qualifying under the last time under legacy SPG rules, or she can have 100 nights between both SPG and Marriott legacy hotels but with the $20K spending threshold. That is more than fair and generous.

Of course, starting in 2019, everyone has to qualify with the $20K spend threshold, anyway.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by txpenny
Would you like to know what else is extremely disappointing?

I've been informed twice that 100 nights at SPG equates to ambassador qualification for 2018 regardless of spend.
Spouse is sitting at 103 nights and she will not qualify for ambassador for 2018 as she has to meet the spend requirement because hers are Marriott nights. ...???

Didn't Marriott buy Starwood?
You were provided incorrect information. The only way to earn an Ambassador in 2018 without meeting the $20,000 spend requirement is to spend 100 nights in legacy SPG properties.
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