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Marriott Bonvoy ‘Ambassador Elite’ Level : experiences (2020 and earlier)
#1696
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Marriott Amb; Hyatt Globalist; Shangri-la Diamond; IHG SpireAmb; Hilton D; Accor G
Posts: 3,319
Careful what you wish for… eventually it'll all be based on spend.
#1697
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 2,808
#1698
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,232
Has your father in law ever been invited to Ambassador or any other status above Gold ? It’s clear that Marriott reserves the right to invite folks to Ambassador without meeting the nights requirement. However , I am not sure we have heard from anyone in FT that they were invited and what they spent .
#1699
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
i agree that many guests paying for premium accommodations are not worried about free breakfast . However , it’s the other benefits of top tier that hold value for travelers .
1. Access to the top tier of customer service support with an Ambassador
2. 48 hour reservation guarantee
3. Your 24
4. 4 pm late checkout
these benefits can hold great value for the corporate traveler and leisure traveler alike
it’s not necessarily the points , breakfast, or upgrades that matter to a certain traveler profile
#1700
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: India
Programs: Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Trident Plat, DL Diamond, AI Maharajah
Posts: 29,670
Has your father in law ever been invited to Ambassador or any other status above Gold ? It’s clear that Marriott reserves the right to invite folks to Ambassador without meeting the nights requirement. However , I am not sure we have heard from anyone in FT that they were invited and what they spent .
#1701
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Marriott Amb; Hyatt Globalist; Shangri-la Diamond; IHG SpireAmb; Hilton D; Accor G
Posts: 3,319
If you're paying cash for a suite at $1,800 a night or $10,000 for airfare then you probably either have a travel agent or a personal assistant who can be your "ambassador." As for hotel availability, let's face it: If you can afford $1,800 a night then you can probably afford the going rate for a hotel room if you wake up this morning and decide to fly to Paris tonight.
#1702
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
Again, if you're buying a suite outright an upgrade probably doesn't matter.
#1703
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 2,808
not to my knowledge....after many years i convinced him to sign up for various hotel programs....initially he just used his travel agent to make all his hotel reservations....even now he sometimes forgets to give his marriott number for a number of his stays & i have to follow up to get him the credit....honestly, he could care less about the ambassador program....he gets treated like royalty everywhere he goes because of his spend....
#1704
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
For me, the point of having an Ambassador is to elevate my Marriott experience and hotel stays.
I work with my Ambassador like we’re both part of the same team. I treat her as such. Anyone who manages a team or owns a business likely knows the benefit of such an approach.
I know my Ambassador is a cog in a big wheel. My Ambassador can only make requests of hotels and of Marriott corporate that don’t or can’t always fulfill those requests. I almost always assume my Ambassador isn’t the culprit when things go awry—because I almost always have discovered that to be the case. I trust my Ambassador; my Ambassador knows I have her back, too.
I prefer to book my own hotel stays. I rarely need or almost never expect my Ambassador to book anything for me.
I really appreciate my Ambassador impressing upon hotels—for my most important leisure stays with my husband—the importance of a suite upgrade whenever that may be available. That being said, I maximize my own chances by almost always choosing shoulder or low seasons with lower occupancy. I avoid holidays. I avoid special festivals and celebrations. And I have realistic expectations when a hotel is actually full—and say so both to my Ambassador and to the hotels in question. Everyone appreciates candor and understanding.
I really appreciate my Ambassador reminding hotels to have my rooms/suites pre-cooled to 67 F so I can better ensure the air con will meet my need. That being said, I don’t assume my Ambassador is the culprit whenever this isn’t executed. Even Ritz-Carlton and Luxury Collection hotels have failed in this capacity on a number of occasions, even when I know for certain that my Ambassador reminded them. (I can’t recall a StR failing to know this and at least make the effort, even if it hasn’t always worked out.)
I really appreciate my Ambassador status giving me a VIP priority at most hotels, whether it be because my Ambassador has adevised them or because I have on my own. This is a benefit I enjoy and expect most often at luxury and some upper upscale hotels.
I really appreciate that my Ambassador will try to take care of any and every issue I have with Marriott. She may not always be able to sort my problem as fast as I’d like due to circumstances beyond her control. But I always know she does her very best to sort them for me. And they almost always get sorted.
When any Ambassador has done something that has disappointed or frustrated me, I’ve told them. And I’ve told my Ambassador, too. As a result, my Ambassador and the general Ambassador team has a very good idea of what makes me tick and how best to fulfill my expectations. They don’t wonder what my priorities are. They know.
I work with my Ambassador like we’re both part of the same team. I treat her as such. Anyone who manages a team or owns a business likely knows the benefit of such an approach.
I know my Ambassador is a cog in a big wheel. My Ambassador can only make requests of hotels and of Marriott corporate that don’t or can’t always fulfill those requests. I almost always assume my Ambassador isn’t the culprit when things go awry—because I almost always have discovered that to be the case. I trust my Ambassador; my Ambassador knows I have her back, too.
I prefer to book my own hotel stays. I rarely need or almost never expect my Ambassador to book anything for me.
I really appreciate my Ambassador impressing upon hotels—for my most important leisure stays with my husband—the importance of a suite upgrade whenever that may be available. That being said, I maximize my own chances by almost always choosing shoulder or low seasons with lower occupancy. I avoid holidays. I avoid special festivals and celebrations. And I have realistic expectations when a hotel is actually full—and say so both to my Ambassador and to the hotels in question. Everyone appreciates candor and understanding.
I really appreciate my Ambassador reminding hotels to have my rooms/suites pre-cooled to 67 F so I can better ensure the air con will meet my need. That being said, I don’t assume my Ambassador is the culprit whenever this isn’t executed. Even Ritz-Carlton and Luxury Collection hotels have failed in this capacity on a number of occasions, even when I know for certain that my Ambassador reminded them. (I can’t recall a StR failing to know this and at least make the effort, even if it hasn’t always worked out.)
I really appreciate my Ambassador status giving me a VIP priority at most hotels, whether it be because my Ambassador has adevised them or because I have on my own. This is a benefit I enjoy and expect most often at luxury and some upper upscale hotels.
I really appreciate that my Ambassador will try to take care of any and every issue I have with Marriott. She may not always be able to sort my problem as fast as I’d like due to circumstances beyond her control. But I always know she does her very best to sort them for me. And they almost always get sorted.
When any Ambassador has done something that has disappointed or frustrated me, I’ve told them. And I’ve told my Ambassador, too. As a result, my Ambassador and the general Ambassador team has a very good idea of what makes me tick and how best to fulfill my expectations. They don’t wonder what my priorities are. They know.
#1705
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
For me, the point of having an Ambassador is to elevate my Marriott experience and hotel stays.
I work with my Ambassador like we’re both part of the same team. I treat her as such. Anyone who manages a team or owns a business likely knows the benefit of such an approach.
I know my Ambassador is a cog in a big wheel. My Ambassador can only make requests of hotels and of Marriott corporate that don’t or can’t always fulfill those requests. I almost always assume my Ambassador isn’t the culprit when things go awry—because I almost always have discovered that to be the case. I trust my Ambassador; my Ambassador knows I have her back, too.
I prefer to book my own hotel stays. I rarely need or almost never expect my Ambassador to book anything for me.
I really appreciate my Ambassador impressing upon hotels—for my most important leisure stays with my husband—the importance of a suite upgrade whenever that may be available. That being said, I maximize my own chances by almost always choosing shoulder or low seasons with lower occupancy. I avoid holidays. I avoid special festivals and celebrations. And I have realistic expectations when a hotel is actually full—and say so both to my Ambassador and to the hotels in question. Everyone appreciates candor and understanding.
I really appreciate my Ambassador reminding hotels to have my rooms/suites pre-cooled to 67 F so I can better ensure the air con will meet my need. That being said, I don’t assume my Ambassador is the culprit whenever this isn’t executed. Even Ritz-Carlton and Luxury Collection hotels have failed in this capacity on a number of occasions, even when I know for certain that my Ambassador reminded them. (I can’t recall a StR failing to know this and at least make the effort, even if it hasn’t always worked out.)
I really appreciate my Ambassador status giving me a VIP priority at most hotels, whether it be because my Ambassador has adevised them or because I have on my own. This is a benefit I enjoy and expect most often at luxury and some upper upscale hotels.
I really appreciate that my Ambassador will try to take care of any and every issue I have with Marriott. She may not always be able to sort my problem as fast as I’d like due to circumstances beyond her control. But I always know she does her very best to sort them for me. And they almost always get sorted.
When any Ambassador has done something that has disappointed or frustrated me, I’ve told them. And I’ve told my Ambassador, too. As a result, my Ambassador and the general Ambassador team has a very good idea of what makes me tick and how best to fulfill my expectations. They don’t wonder what my priorities are. They know.
I work with my Ambassador like we’re both part of the same team. I treat her as such. Anyone who manages a team or owns a business likely knows the benefit of such an approach.
I know my Ambassador is a cog in a big wheel. My Ambassador can only make requests of hotels and of Marriott corporate that don’t or can’t always fulfill those requests. I almost always assume my Ambassador isn’t the culprit when things go awry—because I almost always have discovered that to be the case. I trust my Ambassador; my Ambassador knows I have her back, too.
I prefer to book my own hotel stays. I rarely need or almost never expect my Ambassador to book anything for me.
I really appreciate my Ambassador impressing upon hotels—for my most important leisure stays with my husband—the importance of a suite upgrade whenever that may be available. That being said, I maximize my own chances by almost always choosing shoulder or low seasons with lower occupancy. I avoid holidays. I avoid special festivals and celebrations. And I have realistic expectations when a hotel is actually full—and say so both to my Ambassador and to the hotels in question. Everyone appreciates candor and understanding.
I really appreciate my Ambassador reminding hotels to have my rooms/suites pre-cooled to 67 F so I can better ensure the air con will meet my need. That being said, I don’t assume my Ambassador is the culprit whenever this isn’t executed. Even Ritz-Carlton and Luxury Collection hotels have failed in this capacity on a number of occasions, even when I know for certain that my Ambassador reminded them. (I can’t recall a StR failing to know this and at least make the effort, even if it hasn’t always worked out.)
I really appreciate my Ambassador status giving me a VIP priority at most hotels, whether it be because my Ambassador has adevised them or because I have on my own. This is a benefit I enjoy and expect most often at luxury and some upper upscale hotels.
I really appreciate that my Ambassador will try to take care of any and every issue I have with Marriott. She may not always be able to sort my problem as fast as I’d like due to circumstances beyond her control. But I always know she does her very best to sort them for me. And they almost always get sorted.
When any Ambassador has done something that has disappointed or frustrated me, I’ve told them. And I’ve told my Ambassador, too. As a result, my Ambassador and the general Ambassador team has a very good idea of what makes me tick and how best to fulfill my expectations. They don’t wonder what my priorities are. They know.
#1706
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
Hi
At what hotel brands do you most often stay? I think that may make a difference.
Though I already mentioned that several RC and LuxColl properties missed on presetting my air con—even as my regular Sheraton Philly and Boston, Le Meridien Cambridge and Arlington, and Four Points Chelsea and Midtown did preset for me.
Regardless, I still expect the luxury brands (and hotels where I’m a frequent guest or where I bring large groups) to be better overall at accommodating my special requests. I expect most “upper upscale” and “upscale” brands to not be so good at handling special requests. I wouldn’t expect much from “midscale” select service brands at all, since special requests are anathema to their less personal service-oriented standards.
Again, I firmly believe that better hotels and hotels that better know us are far more likely to execute the special requests that our Ambassadors make on our behalf.
Though I already mentioned that several RC and LuxColl properties missed on presetting my air con—even as my regular Sheraton Philly and Boston, Le Meridien Cambridge and Arlington, and Four Points Chelsea and Midtown did preset for me.
Regardless, I still expect the luxury brands (and hotels where I’m a frequent guest or where I bring large groups) to be better overall at accommodating my special requests. I expect most “upper upscale” and “upscale” brands to not be so good at handling special requests. I wouldn’t expect much from “midscale” select service brands at all, since special requests are anathema to their less personal service-oriented standards.
Again, I firmly believe that better hotels and hotels that better know us are far more likely to execute the special requests that our Ambassadors make on our behalf.
Last edited by bhrubin; Dec 30, 2018 at 1:54 pm
#1707
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: In the air
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy LT Plat, Hilton Gold, GHA Tit, BA Gold, Turkish Elite
Posts: 8,717
I suspect that having a healthy annual spend is also pretty useful.
#1708
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CEB - primary/YVR -secondary
Programs: AC*Super Elite (100K) / PR*Elite / AY*Platinum (OWE) / SPG*Bonvoy Titanium (LTT)
Posts: 2,272
a) because youre not staying at a high end/upper class/luxury property
b) youre not making an effort to build rapport with your ambassador
c) your spend is not high enough
#1709
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
b) I’m not sure this quantifiable
c) I don’t think this matters as much now that all new Ambassador guests already are screened for spend and/or invited despite it
#1710
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,399
Using your example , let’s say you do 2 weeks a year in that suite and spend $24,000 before other spend (and very few sporadic nights elsewhere ) - are you suggesting that you would be content with Gold status ? That spend would give you top tier and the attendant benefits with competitors . I truly believe that any property owner /manager loves having guests that pay top dollar for premium rooms and would be more than willing to offer a breakfast benefit and 4pm late checkout for anyone spending $1800 per night . In reality , they don’t have to offer you either as a Gold who has the spend but not the nights .
Any hotel manager is free to set terms and rates so that (top) suites include breakfast and late checkout privileges. In fact, in many cases, someone booking such a suite would have some communication in advance with the property or its GM and would negotiate check in/out times, etc., or would have a real live human personal travel agent do this.