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Huge thanks to Horace for this list (which is much simpler to understand than Marriott's T&Cs!)
Daily Breakfast for Platinum Elite and Above
Six categories:
1. Breakfast for member + 1 in the lounge. If the hotel does not have a lounge or the lounge is closed, member can choose 750 points OR continental breakfast for member + 1 in the restaurant. A limited number of hotels provide 1,000 points each day the lounge is closed instead of a choice (Through June 30, 2024). Any of these benefits are in addition to the Platinum Elite welcome gift.
Autograph Collection (excluding resorts)
Courtyard (properties with a lounge only; Asia, Australia, Pacific Islands, Caribbean, Mexico, Central America, South America, the Middle East, and Africa only)
Delta* (excluding resorts)
JW Marriott (excluding resorts)
Marriott (excluding resorts)
Renaissance (excluding resorts)
* many Delta properties provide breakfast from an Elite Pantry as an alternative to a Signature Lounge, in which case the hotel does not need to provide breakfast for member + 1 the restaurant.
2. Breakfast in the hotel restaurant for member + 1 as a Platinum Elite welcome gift option (not in addition to it).
Aloft
Autograph Collection (resorts only)
Delta (resorts only)
Four Points
The Luxury Collection
JW Marriott (resorts only)
Le Mridien
Marriott (resorts only)
Protea
Renaissance (resorts only)
St. Regis
Sheraton **
Tribute Portfolio
W Hotels
Westin **
** Marriott Vacation Club, Sheraton Vacation Club, and Westin Vacation Club properties are not Marriott, Sheraton, and Westin hotels/resorts.
3. Breakfast in lounge for member + 1, if the hotel has a lounge. This is in addition to the Platinum Elite welcome gift, which could be breakfast for member + 1 in the restaurant. No alternative benefit if the lounge is closed.
Le Mridien (only at locations with a lounge)
Sheraton (only at locations with a lounge)
Westin (only at locations with a lounge)
4. Daily U.S. $10 F&B credit for member + 1 as a Platinum Elite welcome gift option (not in addition to it). Can be applied toward breakfast or toward other F&B purchase in the hotel restaurant or bar. Does not accrue over multiple-night stay.
AC Hotels
Courtyard (locations without a lounge only, which means most locations)
MOXY ***
*** some MOXY property are more generous, providing full breakfasts to those who apply their F&B credits toward breakfast, with no additional charge
5. Breakfast for all guests included in room rate, regardless of status or membership
Element ****
Fairfield (except Fairfield Asia Pacific hotels) ****
Residence Inn (NO breakfast at Residence Inn New Orleans French Quarter/CBD)
SpringHill Suites
TownePlace Suites
**** very few exceptions; check official hotel website
6. No complimentary daily breakfast, even for Platinum Elite and Above
Design Hotels
Edition
Fairfield Asia Pacific hotels
Gaylord Hotels
Marriott Executive Apartments
Marriott Vacation Club / MVC Pulse / Grand Residences by Marriott
The Ritz-Carlton / Ritz-Carlton Reserve / Ritz-Carlton Residence Club
Vistana / Sheraton Vacation Club / Westin Vacation Club
Note: This list does not identify specific properties that deviate from the published benefits. In some cases, exceptions are identified in the Marriott Bonvoy Loyalty Program Terms & Conditions or on specific property webpages. Exceptions are few, but can be an unpleasant or pleasant surprise, depending on whether the property provides less or more than the published benefits.Through June 30, 2024, the following properties in the United States do not provide free continental breakfast in the hotel restaurant in the event the Lounge is closed but do offer 1,000 Points in lieu of breakfast. These properties include:
The Algonquin Hotel Times Square, Autograph Collection
Boston Marriott Copley Place
Boston Marriott Long Wharf
Chicago Marriott Downtown Magnificent Mile
JW Marriott Essex House New York City
JW Marriott New Orleans
JW Marriott San Francisco Union Square
JW Marriott Washington, DC
The Lexington Hotel, Autograph Collection
Monterey Marriott
New York Marriott Marquis
Philadelphia Marriott Downtown
Renaissance Boston Waterfront Hotel
Renaissance Chicago Downtown Hotel
Renaissance Los Angeles Airport Hotel
Renaissance New York Midtown Hotel
Renaissance New York Times Square Hotel
Marriott Marquis San Diego Marina
Daily Breakfast for Platinum Elite and Above
Six categories:
1. Breakfast for member + 1 in the lounge. If the hotel does not have a lounge or the lounge is closed, member can choose 750 points OR continental breakfast for member + 1 in the restaurant. A limited number of hotels provide 1,000 points each day the lounge is closed instead of a choice (Through June 30, 2024). Any of these benefits are in addition to the Platinum Elite welcome gift.
Autograph Collection (excluding resorts)
Courtyard (properties with a lounge only; Asia, Australia, Pacific Islands, Caribbean, Mexico, Central America, South America, the Middle East, and Africa only)
Delta* (excluding resorts)
JW Marriott (excluding resorts)
Marriott (excluding resorts)
Renaissance (excluding resorts)
* many Delta properties provide breakfast from an Elite Pantry as an alternative to a Signature Lounge, in which case the hotel does not need to provide breakfast for member + 1 the restaurant.
2. Breakfast in the hotel restaurant for member + 1 as a Platinum Elite welcome gift option (not in addition to it).
Aloft
Autograph Collection (resorts only)
Delta (resorts only)
Four Points
The Luxury Collection
JW Marriott (resorts only)
Le Mridien
Marriott (resorts only)
Protea
Renaissance (resorts only)
St. Regis
Sheraton **
Tribute Portfolio
W Hotels
Westin **
** Marriott Vacation Club, Sheraton Vacation Club, and Westin Vacation Club properties are not Marriott, Sheraton, and Westin hotels/resorts.
3. Breakfast in lounge for member + 1, if the hotel has a lounge. This is in addition to the Platinum Elite welcome gift, which could be breakfast for member + 1 in the restaurant. No alternative benefit if the lounge is closed.
Le Mridien (only at locations with a lounge)
Sheraton (only at locations with a lounge)
Westin (only at locations with a lounge)
4. Daily U.S. $10 F&B credit for member + 1 as a Platinum Elite welcome gift option (not in addition to it). Can be applied toward breakfast or toward other F&B purchase in the hotel restaurant or bar. Does not accrue over multiple-night stay.
AC Hotels
Courtyard (locations without a lounge only, which means most locations)
MOXY ***
*** some MOXY property are more generous, providing full breakfasts to those who apply their F&B credits toward breakfast, with no additional charge
5. Breakfast for all guests included in room rate, regardless of status or membership
Element ****
Fairfield (except Fairfield Asia Pacific hotels) ****
Residence Inn (NO breakfast at Residence Inn New Orleans French Quarter/CBD)
SpringHill Suites
TownePlace Suites
**** very few exceptions; check official hotel website
6. No complimentary daily breakfast, even for Platinum Elite and Above
Design Hotels
Edition
Fairfield Asia Pacific hotels
Gaylord Hotels
Marriott Executive Apartments
Marriott Vacation Club / MVC Pulse / Grand Residences by Marriott
The Ritz-Carlton / Ritz-Carlton Reserve / Ritz-Carlton Residence Club
Vistana / Sheraton Vacation Club / Westin Vacation Club
Note: This list does not identify specific properties that deviate from the published benefits. In some cases, exceptions are identified in the Marriott Bonvoy Loyalty Program Terms & Conditions or on specific property webpages. Exceptions are few, but can be an unpleasant or pleasant surprise, depending on whether the property provides less or more than the published benefits.Through June 30, 2024, the following properties in the United States do not provide free continental breakfast in the hotel restaurant in the event the Lounge is closed but do offer 1,000 Points in lieu of breakfast. These properties include:
The Algonquin Hotel Times Square, Autograph Collection
Boston Marriott Copley Place
Boston Marriott Long Wharf
Chicago Marriott Downtown Magnificent Mile
JW Marriott Essex House New York City
JW Marriott New Orleans
JW Marriott San Francisco Union Square
JW Marriott Washington, DC
The Lexington Hotel, Autograph Collection
Monterey Marriott
New York Marriott Marquis
Philadelphia Marriott Downtown
Renaissance Boston Waterfront Hotel
Renaissance Chicago Downtown Hotel
Renaissance Los Angeles Airport Hotel
Renaissance New York Midtown Hotel
Renaissance New York Times Square Hotel
Marriott Marquis San Diego Marina
FAQ : Marriott's "breakfast offering" explained, by brand and by Bonvoy elite level
#781
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: YVR
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 245
One of the Marriotts I stay at regularly decided to continue giving us lowly Gold Elites full lounge access (breakfast & evening cocktails) even after the benefit changed.
I'd love to stay at other properties that do the same. Is there a list/thread somewhere?
Shuttle (GE plebe)
I'd love to stay at other properties that do the same. Is there a list/thread somewhere?
Shuttle (GE plebe)
#782
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,298
One of the Marriotts I stay at regularly decided to continue giving us lowly Gold Elites full lounge access (breakfast & evening cocktails) even after the benefit changed.
I'd love to stay at other properties that do the same. Is there a list/thread somewhere?
Shuttle (GE plebe)
I'd love to stay at other properties that do the same. Is there a list/thread somewhere?
Shuttle (GE plebe)
Otherwise I would expect this to be more likely at legacy Marriott properties than legacy Starwoods, where Golds weren't entitled to lounge access.
#783
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: YVR
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 245
Most of the time, if you're upgraded to a room on a club floor, lounge access is included. This was an old SPG rule, but it's YMMV now. Some hotels might be willing to sell you a club level upgrade for a modest amount of money or points, or you could decide when booking that the price difference (in money or points) makes doing this worthwhile.
Otherwise I would expect this to be more likely at legacy Marriott properties than legacy Starwoods, where Golds weren't entitled to lounge access.
Otherwise I would expect this to be more likely at legacy Marriott properties than legacy Starwoods, where Golds weren't entitled to lounge access.
It's so appreciated and it's why I go back there every time.
#784
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; IHG Plat; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 11,718
#785
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,604
Here: https://www.marriott.com/loyalty/mem...s/guarantee.mi The page most customers will see, and think they only get $10 F&B.
Sort of like when Elite Late Checkout was rolled out with the weasley wording "as late as 4pm" that managers would use to deny guests late checkout after 12:30. No payout at all for rogue managers denying that "guarantee".
Sort of like when Elite Late Checkout was rolled out with the weasley wording "as late as 4pm" that managers would use to deny guests late checkout after 12:30. No payout at all for rogue managers denying that "guarantee".
So the T&C says:
"....Platinum Elite Members and above may check out as late as 4 p.m. local time of the Participating Property. Members can request late checkout when making a reservation through central reservations, at check-in, via the mobile app (where available) or at any time during their stay. This benefit is guaranteed at all Participating Properties, except at resort and convention hotels and Design HotelsTM, where it is based upon availability"
I just got Plat yesterday so am not 100% up on benefits, but this seems clear that we can request and it is guaranteed with the specified exceptions. Is there a large number of cases where 4pm is requested and denied, AND the property refuses on site to pay up per the Elite Benefit Guarantee? When it says I "may" checkout as late as 4p, I read it that it is up to me, and I have a guarantee of 4pm at my discretion.
Secondly, is it clear how a "resort" or "convention center" is identified? Literally half of the hotels in major cities glom on a "destination" or other fee. Is the resort definition clearly stated somewhere? This was my original, in topic question.
I am sure some may shake their head at my naivete, but hard not to read the terms in this manner.
#786
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: WN F9 HA UA AA IHG HH MR
Posts: 3,305
Is there a large number of cases where 4pm is requested and denied, AND the property refuses on site to pay up per the Elite Benefit Guarantee? When it says I "may" checkout as late as 4p, I read it that it is up to me, and I have a guarantee of 4pm at my discretion. Secondly, is it clear how a "resort" or "convention center" is identified? Literally half of the hotels in major cities glom on a "destination" or other fee. Is the resort definition clearly stated somewhere? This was my original, in topic question.
bonvOY convention hotels and resorts can be found here.
#787
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA Plat MM
Posts: 3,572
So the T&C says:
"....Platinum Elite Members and above may check out as late as 4 p.m. local time of the Participating Property. Members can request late checkout when making a reservation through central reservations, at check-in, via the mobile app (where available) or at any time during their stay. This benefit is guaranteed at all Participating Properties, except at resort and convention hotels and Design HotelsTM, where it is based upon availability"
I just got Plat yesterday so am not 100% up on benefits, but this seems clear that we can request and it is guaranteed with the specified exceptions. Is there a large number of cases where 4pm is requested and denied, AND the property refuses on site to pay up per the Elite Benefit Guarantee? When it says I "may" checkout as late as 4p, I read it that it is up to me, and I have a guarantee of 4pm at my discretion.
Secondly, is it clear how a "resort" or "convention center" is identified? Literally half of the hotels in major cities glom on a "destination" or other fee. Is the resort definition clearly stated somewhere? This was my original, in topic question.
I am sure some may shake their head at my naivete, but hard not to read the terms in this manner.
"....Platinum Elite Members and above may check out as late as 4 p.m. local time of the Participating Property. Members can request late checkout when making a reservation through central reservations, at check-in, via the mobile app (where available) or at any time during their stay. This benefit is guaranteed at all Participating Properties, except at resort and convention hotels and Design HotelsTM, where it is based upon availability"
I just got Plat yesterday so am not 100% up on benefits, but this seems clear that we can request and it is guaranteed with the specified exceptions. Is there a large number of cases where 4pm is requested and denied, AND the property refuses on site to pay up per the Elite Benefit Guarantee? When it says I "may" checkout as late as 4p, I read it that it is up to me, and I have a guarantee of 4pm at my discretion.
Secondly, is it clear how a "resort" or "convention center" is identified? Literally half of the hotels in major cities glom on a "destination" or other fee. Is the resort definition clearly stated somewhere? This was my original, in topic question.
I am sure some may shake their head at my naivete, but hard not to read the terms in this manner.
#788
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; IHG Plat; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 11,718
A reminder that this is the "elite breakfast offering" discussion thread. There is a dedicated thread for discussing the late check-out benefit: 4pm Elite Checkout Guarantee (General Discussion) which should be used for discussions around that topic.
Thanks.
Chip
hhoope01 - Marriott Bonvoy Co-Moderator
Thanks.
Chip
hhoope01 - Marriott Bonvoy Co-Moderator
#789
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,604
Thanks all, Guess I will gird my loins for a year of battling. Now that I am old and retired I find myself being "that guy" more.
And my on topic question was on the gray area of resorts whose breakfast options are different and if hotels charging destination fees are "resorts". Looks like no.
And my on topic question was on the gray area of resorts whose breakfast options are different and if hotels charging destination fees are "resorts". Looks like no.
#790
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,266
Click on Fort Lauderdale Marriott Harbor Beach Resort & Spa, which is a resort.
The top line is "Marriott.com / Marriott Hotels & Resorts / Fort Lauderdale / Resort."
At resorts, daily breakfast in the restaurant for member + 1 is an arrival gift choice for Platinum Elite and higher.
Then click on Fort Lauderdale Marriott North, which is a hotel.
The top line is "Marriott.com / Marriott Hotels & Resorts / Fort Lauderdale / Hotel."
At hotels, daily breakfast in the lounge (or the restaurant if there is no lounge or it's closed) for member + 1 is provided in addition to an arrival gift for Platinum Elite and higher.
However, a mandatory destination fee does not automatically make a property into resort. It only means the property engages in a slimy business practice.
Last edited by Horace; Dec 30, 2019 at 6:53 pm
#791
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,604
Yes, there are five Marriott brands that treat resorts and hotels differently when it comes to breakfast. It's easy to tell if a property is a resort or a hotel. For example...
Click on Fort Lauderdale Marriott Harbor Beach Resort & Spa, which is a resort.
The top line is "Marriott.com / Marriott Hotels & Resorts / Fort Lauderdale / Resort."
At resorts, daily breakfast in the restaurant for member + 1 is an arrival gift choice for Platinum Elite and higher.
Then click on Fort Lauderdale Marriott North, which is a hotel.
The top line is "Marriott.com / Marriott Hotels & Resorts / Fort Lauderdale / Hotel."
At hotels, daily breakfast in the lounge (or the restaurant if there is no lounge or it's closed) for member + 1 is provided in addition to an arrival gift for Platinum Elite and higher.
However, a mandatory destination fee does not automatically make a property into resort. It only means the property engages in a slimy business practice.
Click on Fort Lauderdale Marriott Harbor Beach Resort & Spa, which is a resort.
The top line is "Marriott.com / Marriott Hotels & Resorts / Fort Lauderdale / Resort."
At resorts, daily breakfast in the restaurant for member + 1 is an arrival gift choice for Platinum Elite and higher.
Then click on Fort Lauderdale Marriott North, which is a hotel.
The top line is "Marriott.com / Marriott Hotels & Resorts / Fort Lauderdale / Hotel."
At hotels, daily breakfast in the lounge (or the restaurant if there is no lounge or it's closed) for member + 1 is provided in addition to an arrival gift for Platinum Elite and higher.
However, a mandatory destination fee does not automatically make a property into resort. It only means the property engages in a slimy business practice.
#792
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 885
Westin Breakfasts Now Continental Only?
I just checked into the Westin La Paloma in Tucson and they are telling me the as of January 1 Marriott has downgraded the breakfast as a welcome amenity to a Continental breakfast. I asked if this was a change for just this hotel and they said no.
This is the first I've heard of this. Since I don't see any changes to the the Bonvoy terms and conditions I'm not clear how this could be the case. Does anyone know anything about this?
This is the first I've heard of this. Since I don't see any changes to the the Bonvoy terms and conditions I'm not clear how this could be the case. Does anyone know anything about this?
#793
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,227
You've been bonvoyed!
(Note though, that unlike Hyatt, Marriott has never specified exactly what the breakfast must include. Many properties have limited it to continental.)
#794
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA Plat MM
Posts: 3,572
I just checked into the Westin La Paloma in Tucson and they are telling me the as of January 1 Marriott has downgraded the breakfast as a welcome amenity to a Continental breakfast. I asked if this was a change for just this hotel and they said no.
This is the first I've heard of this. Since I don't see any changes to the the Bonvoy terms and conditions I'm not clear how this could be the case. Does anyone know anything about this?
This is the first I've heard of this. Since I don't see any changes to the the Bonvoy terms and conditions I'm not clear how this could be the case. Does anyone know anything about this?
#795
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 885
But they are making a distinction because the terms and conditions state that some properties include "continental breakfast" while others provide "breakfast."
Last edited by sbedelman; Jan 9, 2020 at 6:36 pm