hockeyinsider

If they removed all of the cladding, it would get a decent amount of sun. I still haven't figured out why they didn't build the pool a further 10 feet out, as they have a patio that wraps around almost the entire 18th floor but is inaccessible at all times.

Duke787

If given the choice would people stay here or at the Conrad? Top tier at both (Diamond/Plat) and event itself is at MBS Convention Centre so a walk from either.

Just don't feel like staying at MBS and last time I was in Singapore I stayed at GH so no experience with either of these properties.

Srisarin

This prop was not a new build but a conversion.
Ask the former builder/architect

C17PSGR

Yes but it its a pretty new facility. I think the owner that built building still owns it now but simply decided to operate it as a JW rather than an independent property. Why would that building owner have approved it ...

SkiAdcock

As Srisarin says, go ask the owner/original architect. They're the only ones who can provide you w/ the answer.

Cheers.

hockeyinsider

No change in ownership. The owner who built it 2-3 years ago is the same owner who owns it now. They also own the JW Marriott in Hong Kong, among other hotels.

hockeyinsider

At least there is a second pool that gets some sunlight since it was reflagged to J.W. Marriott.

Srisarin

Which still leaves it to cold to use unless you’re a polar bear

They really should start to heat it as the Ren Bangkok has now done

C17PSGR

That's the solution

hockeyinsider

Personally, I think it will be very interesting to see if this hotel survives. Most of the typical J.W. Marriott guests, judging from commentary here and elsewhere, don't care for the decor of the hotel. It couldn't make it financially as an independent, luxury hotel.

Srisarin

While you’re entitled to your opinion, I think Mr. Beng /Hong Leong Group did their due diligence before entering into this project.

He didn’t amass a personal wealth estimated over $7-bil by being stupid and although the property doesn’t have a daily occupancy rate over 90% they are still doing equal to or better then the nearby Conrad.

It’s a quirky property due to its architect, but then again I just left the JW Phu Quoc which is over the top in uniqueness and is doing exceedingly well.

Delta3MM

I just came back from a 7 night stay, and although the artwork is a bit quirky, it does not get in the way of anything. I like the hotel. I like the location, getting around was fairly easy, although we do tend to use UBER and taxis. We also walked to quite a few places from the hotel.

Lounge is good, food is a bit repetitive and a bit lower quality than what I would expect of a JW. My point of comparison is always the JW Bangkok. Although JW Hong Kong is nice, I prefer Bangkok. This JW is good, just not over the top good.

Under cooked bacon in the mornings, the same three sandwich offerings at tea every day, barely passable scones, etc. Rooms are very nice size and functional. Bed was very comfortable.

Billy

hockeyinsider

Are they still letting kids in the lounge at night?

hockeyinsider

This "quirky" (to quote you) hotel would be a better fit as an Autograph Collection property, like the Mayflower in Washington, D.C., that used to be a Renaissance property.

Only the toiletries and the TV system are J.W. Marriott-esque. Everything else -- mattresses, robes, slippers -- are from when the hotel was independent.

I'm not for the minute saying it isn't a good hotel. I like it a lot. I actually liked it even more when it was the South Beach, as I thought the service was even better then. For example, now there's a barrier between guests and the hotel staff at check-in. Before, there was no desk.

It just isn't a J.W. Marriott hotel and probably won't be until and unless there is a redecoration.

Srisarin

Kinda makes me wonder where they just sent $20-mil to refurb the prop on

But if you think this place doesn’t know who or what they are, try the Plaza, Autograph in Seoul where except for the small plaque outside the hotel you wouldn’t know it’s managed now by Marriott or the Wicklow Autograph in Ireland which still touts their towels, silver, plates, napkins, TV screen etc as a Ritz.