St. Regis Maldives Vommuli Resort [Master Thread]
#2281
#2282
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 51
I didn't earn points for scuba diving or sea plane. I only earned 3,700 points for the trip as a Platinum, even though I spent almost $5,000.... Is this right?
Activities should count unless any of them involved a sub contracted third party provider.
If points received only account for 50% of spend, it probably is worth looking into. Everything is screwed up with the change over to the Marriott system at certain (perhaps all?) former Starwood properties, so I would be extra careful to ensure that proper point credit has been issued.
Seaplane, VAT, and service charge of course will not earn points.
Activities should count unless any of them involved a sub contracted third party provider.
If points received only account for 50% of spend, it probably is worth looking into. Everything is screwed up with the change over to the Marriott system at certain (perhaps all?) former Starwood properties, so I would be extra careful to ensure that proper point credit has been issued.
Seaplane, VAT, and service charge of course will not earn points.
#2283
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
This is being discussed on some Marriott Rewards point threads. Many here might have Cat 7 reservations working to earn points before the move to Cat 8. The statement below was in the Get Ready for Bonvoy announcement. This goes against one of the main points of points advance.
Points Advance — Members can book stays when they do not have enough points if they earn or purchase the needed points at least 14 days prior to check-in. Members who wish to book a points advance redemption under the current Marriott Rewards and SPG award chart are encouraged to order redemption certificates before March 5 to lock in the rate. On March 5, redemption bookings are subject to the new unified program award chart.
Points Advance — Members can book stays when they do not have enough points if they earn or purchase the needed points at least 14 days prior to check-in. Members who wish to book a points advance redemption under the current Marriott Rewards and SPG award chart are encouraged to order redemption certificates before March 5 to lock in the rate. On March 5, redemption bookings are subject to the new unified program award chart.
#2284
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: Bonvoy Plat
Posts: 153
This is being discussed on some Marriott Rewards point threads. Many here might have Cat 7 reservations working to earn points before the move to Cat 8. The statement below was in the Get Ready for Bonvoy announcement. This goes against one of the main points of points advance.
Points Advance — Members can book stays when they do not have enough points if they earn or purchase the needed points at least 14 days prior to check-in. Members who wish to book a points advance redemption under the current Marriott Rewards and SPG award chart are encouraged to order redemption certificates before March 5 to lock in the rate. On March 5, redemption bookings are subject to the new unified program award chart.
Points Advance — Members can book stays when they do not have enough points if they earn or purchase the needed points at least 14 days prior to check-in. Members who wish to book a points advance redemption under the current Marriott Rewards and SPG award chart are encouraged to order redemption certificates before March 5 to lock in the rate. On March 5, redemption bookings are subject to the new unified program award chart.
#2285
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,146
Since we only did snorkeling, I can't say anything about the dive center activities.
#2286
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,146
They are honouring the rates until March, which has been the deadline for the new chart for quite a while, plus they are allowing you to book at the old rate even if you do not have the points now, just as long as you have them before the stay. I don't see what there is to get upset about. I would take this reminder as a positive, "Please make sure to book at the old rate while you still can, here is an extra way to make it possible"
#2287
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
They are honouring the rates until March, which has been the deadline for the new chart for quite a while, plus they are allowing you to book at the old rate even if you do not have the points now, just as long as you have them before the stay. I don't see what there is to get upset about. I would take this reminder as a positive, "Please make sure to book at the old rate while you still can, here is an extra way to make it possible"
I have no idea how Points Advance worked in pre-merger Marriott world, but while I agree this sounds like a devaluation of my understanding of Points Advance, I don't totally blame them for taking this approach -- otherwise they would have tons of speculative bookings clogging up the reservations books for every hotel that's going up in category every year. At least if you have to have the points already it somewhat reduces the amount people can do that.
#2288
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
They are honouring the rates until March, which has been the deadline for the new chart for quite a while, plus they are allowing you to book at the old rate even if you do not have the points now, just as long as you have them before the stay. I don't see what there is to get upset about. I would take this reminder as a positive, "Please make sure to book at the old rate while you still can, here is an extra way to make it possible"
#2289
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,146
The key thing is that, according to the post above, they are not allowing you to do what you describe in the bolded text I've quoted. They are saying you need to order the redemption certificates, i.e. you need to have the points in your account, by March 5, or you'll have to pay the higher rate even if you made a Points Advance booking prior to March 5.
I have no idea how Points Advance worked in pre-merger Marriott world, but while I agree this sounds like a devaluation of my understanding of Points Advance, I don't totally blame them for taking this approach -- otherwise they would have tons of speculative bookings clogging up the reservations books for every hotel that's going up in category every year. At least if you have to have the points already it somewhat reduces the amount people can do that.
I have no idea how Points Advance worked in pre-merger Marriott world, but while I agree this sounds like a devaluation of my understanding of Points Advance, I don't totally blame them for taking this approach -- otherwise they would have tons of speculative bookings clogging up the reservations books for every hotel that's going up in category every year. At least if you have to have the points already it somewhat reduces the amount people can do that.
#2290
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
That's what I read. On a points advance reservation, it says specifically to "order certificates" two weeks or more before arrival. Now they are saying to order by March 5.
#2291
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn
Programs: Delta Diamond, Bonvoy something good; sometimes other things too
Posts: 5,050
There's some discussion about this on the main category changes thread and in TPG's article about the category changes they mention that they've reached out to Marriott for clarification on what's required ... hopefully we'll get more clarity before March 5.
#2292
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,146
"Order certificates" Is Marriott-speak for "pay for the points reservation", basically. Meaning you'd have to have the points in your account.
There's some discussion about this on the main category changes thread and in TPG's article about the category changes they mention that they've reached out to Marriott for clarification on what's required ... hopefully we'll get more clarity before March 5.
There's some discussion about this on the main category changes thread and in TPG's article about the category changes they mention that they've reached out to Marriott for clarification on what's required ... hopefully we'll get more clarity before March 5.
#2293
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: Bonvoy Plat
Posts: 153
They are honouring the rates until March, which has been the deadline for the new chart for quite a while, plus they are allowing you to book at the old rate even if you do not have the points now, just as long as you have them before the stay. I don't see what there is to get upset about. I would take this reminder as a positive, "Please make sure to book at the old rate while you still can, here is an extra way to make it possible"
Marriott encouraged booking of future Cat8 properties and the use of point advance bookings to take advantage of the current rates and lock them in without ever alluding to this new policy. I certainly feel intentionally misled.
#2294
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
This is not true at all. I was told when I booked that the rate was the current rate and that I had until 15 days prior to check in to earn the points. At no point was I told that the rate would change if I didn't earn the points before the new chart took effect.
Marriott encouraged booking of future Cat8 properties and the use of point advance bookings to take advantage of the current rates and lock them in without ever alluding to this new policy. I certainly feel intentionally misled.
Marriott encouraged booking of future Cat8 properties and the use of point advance bookings to take advantage of the current rates and lock them in without ever alluding to this new policy. I certainly feel intentionally misled.
#2295
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,146
This is not true at all. I was told when I booked that the rate was the current rate and that I had until 15 days prior to check in to earn the points. At no point was I told that the rate would change if I didn't earn the points before the new chart took effect.
Marriott encouraged booking of future Cat8 properties and the use of point advance bookings to take advantage of the current rates and lock them in without ever alluding to this new policy. I certainly feel intentionally misled.
Marriott encouraged booking of future Cat8 properties and the use of point advance bookings to take advantage of the current rates and lock them in without ever alluding to this new policy. I certainly feel intentionally misled.