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Old Feb 5, 2011, 10:43 am
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Any one wondered why 2011 NA still not available to order? I cant even find them in the upcoming releases.

But on the other end what alternatives mint has to get that inventory out unless they make a deal like disney. Banks dont want them, so their options are to find businesses that can give dollar coins as change.

They can always ship directly to Federal reserve, currently most of them end up there anyways.

Originally Posted by dweick
They are discussing alternative methods of selling the coins, not to the general public, that are less costly and achieve the same result.
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by dweick
They are discussing alternative methods of selling the coins, not to the general public, that are less costly and achieve the same result.
If this is actually true, it would be the 1st step in killing the golden goose

Direct ship is a pretty important part of the dollar coin program:

US Mint Distributes 90.7 Million $1 Coins Through Direct Ship Program
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by mshah
Any one wondered why 2011 NA still not available to order? I cant even find them in the upcoming releases.
Looks like 03/28

http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs...atalogId=10001
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 11:24 am
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Dream on, good story but didn't happen.
no it most certainly did not. Nor would I do it, as it would probably blow the entire operation. but I am sure glad to see that the first poster about it knew it was a joke.

of course, you gotta agree, it WOULD be funny if it WAS done.
(and I have paid my taxes with these things by sending them to the town hall of an out of state piece of property and then ACHing the difference lol)
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by Stoughton
If this is actually true, it would be the 1st step in killing the golden goose

Direct ship is a pretty important part of the dollar coin program:

US Mint Distributes 90.7 Million $1 Coins Through Direct Ship Program

Especially if they want to get these coins circulating. My one bank likes to see me bring in the coins because they get charged to order them. If they stop the direct ship, I can't imagine any bank is going to request the coins in their currency order if there is a charge for them.
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by dweick
They are discussing alternative methods of selling the coins, not to the general public, that are less costly and achieve the same result.
Apparently he works for the Mint, American Express, and Bigcrumbs! To quote John Stossel, GIVE ME A BREAK! You have got to be kidding me, coming on here acting as if you work for the Mint and having nothing to back it up. I think it's safe for everyone on the board that what you are doing is making ASSUMPTIONS. Simple as that.
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by Astrophsx
Apparently he works for the Mint, American Express, and Bigcrumbs! To quote John Stossel, GIVE ME A BREAK! You have got to be kidding me, coming on here acting as if you work for the Mint and having nothing to back it up. I think it's safe for everyone on the board that what you are doing is making ASSUMPTIONS. Simple as that.
no. I believe much of what he has been saying is very possible/very factual. well put it this way... it has a lot more likelihood of being believed than most of what you have posted on the exact same subjects.
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 12:03 pm
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"US Mint Distributes 90.7 Million $1 Coins Through Direct Ship Program"

vs mintage:

Originally Posted by dweick
2000-p 767,140,000
2000-d 518,916,000
2001-p 62,468,000
2001-d 70,939,500
2002-p 3,865,610
2002-d 3,732,000
2003-p 3,080,000
2003-d 3,080,000
2004-p 2,660,000
2004-d 2,660,000
2005-p 2,520,000
2005-d 2,520,000
2006-p 4,900,000
2006-d 2,800,000
2007-p 3,640,000
2007-d 3,920,000
2008-p 1,820,000
2008-d 1,820,000
Originally Posted by dweick
Presidential dollars, once again you can see why they have 2007's left, they made too many of them.

2007 George Washington 176,680,000 163,680,000 340,360,000
2007 John Adams 112,420,000 112,140,000 224,560,000
2007 Thomas Jefferson 100,800,000 102,810,000 203,610,000
2007 James Madison 84,560,000 87,780,000 172,340,000

2007 Presidential Dollars 940,870,000

2008 James Monroe 84,560,000 87,780,000 172,340,000
2008 John Quincy Adams 57,540,000 57,720,000 115,260,000
2008 Andrew Jackson 61,180,000 61,070,000 122,250,000
2008 Martin Van Buren 51,520,000 50,960,000 102,480,000

2008 Presidential Dollars 464,480,000

2009 William Henry Harrison 43,260,000 55,160,000 98,420,000
2009 John Tyler 43,540,000 43,540,000 87,080,000
2009 James K. Polk 46,620,000 41,720,000 88,340,000
2009 Zachary Taylor 41,580,000 36,680,000 78,260,000

2009 Presidential Dollars 352,100,000

2010 Millard Fillmore 37,520,000 36,960,000 74,480,000
2010 Franklin Pierce 38,220,000 38,360,000 76,580,000
2010 James Buchanan 36,540,000 36,820,000 73,360,000
2010 Abraham Lincoln 48,020,000 49,000,000 97,020,000

2010 Presidential Dollars 321,440,000

Wow!
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by jamesteroh
Especially if they want to get these coins circulating. My one bank likes to see me bring in the coins because they get charged to order them. If they stop the direct ship, I can't imagine any bank is going to request the coins in their currency order if there is a charge for them.

1% charge for a $140,000 coin shipment? That might be worth it, do they take credit card?


In August 2009, the United States Mint also initiated a Bulk Ship Program, which allows larger quantities of dollar coins to be ordered directly. Presidential Dollars and Native American Dollars can be ordered in $140,000 bulk bags at face value plus a 1% handling charge
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 12:09 pm
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MM : that would be great ... Or, Have them ship directly to the bank with your ATTN: Bank account number.
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man
no. I believe much of what he has been saying is very possible/very factual. well put it this way... it has a lot more likelihood of being believed than most of what you have posted on the exact same subjects.
What have I posted that cannot be believed?

There is a very large difference between being very possible and being a fact. I've seen QL_714 post facts as well, but when asked why it was a fact the only thing he had to back it up with was it's a fact because he said so and hundreds of people PM him. I think MM that you are correct, that it's very possible they could make a change down the line due to certain changes. That is an assumption based on observations made. To say something is a fact, like why the Mint is considering changing what they are currently practicing... you would have to have some sort of inside knowledge of what is going on.

Dweick is claiming in his post that they are evaluating how to implement controls on people bypassing the ordering limits due to "Bragging about bypassing those limits on public forums and in seminars." Then goes on to claim that "They are discussing alternative methods of selling the coins, not to the general public, that are less costly and achieve the same result." As if he has sat down in some meeting at the US Mint offices. He also states he knows the "true" reason why the Mint shut down Amex gift cards.

Here is my take on it... A certain someone who likes to give people trouble if they openly ask about how to bypass the Mint's 10 day limit got upset because I posted how to do it after he gave a new member trouble over being in his words "spoon fed." The sticky does not give information on it and IMO it is not very easy for someone new to search the thread to find the answer. It's a case of someone wanting to prove that he knows more than everyone else and being able to say I told you so down the line. He's wanting a lot of attention... something I believe in the past he's accused other members of having the same motive.

What should anyone take from any of this? That the best/easiest way not to get shut down by the Mint is to follow the rules, and that this deal is not going to last forever.
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by xp0
MM : that would be great ... Or, Have them ship directly to the bank with your ATTN: Bank account number.
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Astrophsx
So is that what I order and send to the bank? *looks for item number*

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Old Feb 5, 2011, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by xp0
MM : that would be great ... Or, Have them ship directly to the bank with your ATTN: Bank account number.
now THAT is an idea! I seriously want to try it just once hehehe


Originally Posted by Astrophsx
What have I posted that cannot be believed?

There is a very large difference between being very possible and being a fact. I've seen QL_714 post facts as well, but when asked why it was a fact the only thing he had to back it up with was it's a fact because he said so and hundreds of people PM him. I think MM that you are correct, that it's very possible they could make a change down the line due to certain changes. That is an assumption based on observations made. To say something is a fact, like why the Mint is considering changing what they are currently practicing... you would have to have some sort of inside knowledge of what is going on.

Dweick is claiming in his post that they are evaluating how to implement controls on people bypassing the ordering limits due to "Bragging about bypassing those limits on public forums and in seminars." Then goes on to claim that "They are discussing alternative methods of selling the coins, not to the general public, that are less costly and achieve the same result." As if he has sat down in some meeting at the US Mint offices. He also states he knows the "true" reason why the Mint shut down Amex gift cards.

Here is my take on it... A certain someone who likes to give people trouble if they openly ask about how to bypass the Mint's 10 day limit got upset because I posted how to do it after he gave a new member trouble over being in his words "spoon fed." The sticky does not give information on it and IMO it is not very easy for someone new to search the thread to find the answer. It's a case of someone wanting to prove that he knows more than everyone else and being able to say I told you so down the line. He's wanting a lot of attention... something I believe in the past he's accused other members of having the same motive.

What should anyone take from any of this? That the best/easiest way not to get shut down by the Mint is to follow the rules, and that this deal is not going to last forever.

you make some valid points and some invalid ones. But this post of yours is longer/worse than one of mine

the only thing that's cool is that you know how to paste pictures into posts here. I have not figured that one out yet but dunno if I care to.
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Old Feb 5, 2011, 12:29 pm
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Recycling

The brown kraft paper dunnage in your orders can be recycled into the corrogated cardboard bin.

This also is a great woodstove fire-starter. Roll two sheets together and store in the boxes.

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