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#1006
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
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I've deposited into Chase, Harris and TCF with no problems here in the Chicago area.
#1007
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: BOS, MHT
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There's really no rhyme or reason as to why some get canceled and others don't (when ordering more than the $500/president). I have found you can minimize the cancellations by doing the following:
1) Keep each order at $500 or less
2) Use different credit cards
3) Ship to different names, for example your kids, your pets, etc (it seems the 'shipping name/address' is more important than the 'billing name/address' for this.
As said, this is just my experience, and obviously I haven't gotten it down to a science yet. One thing for sure though, I would theorize that ordering beyond the $500/president from the same US Mint 'account' is an absolute SURE FIRE way to get the order canceled. This is one of the 'easiest' checks that can be programmed into their system. Probably a 100% automated cancellation.
1) Keep each order at $500 or less
2) Use different credit cards
3) Ship to different names, for example your kids, your pets, etc (it seems the 'shipping name/address' is more important than the 'billing name/address' for this.
As said, this is just my experience, and obviously I haven't gotten it down to a science yet. One thing for sure though, I would theorize that ordering beyond the $500/president from the same US Mint 'account' is an absolute SURE FIRE way to get the order canceled. This is one of the 'easiest' checks that can be programmed into their system. Probably a 100% automated cancellation.
and now, to make new orders, you ought to try switching and having it so your wife or father or someone else's card does the ordering. They will get the miles too, but at least it's seen as a new set of people on the mint lists.
#1008
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: AA PLT 2MM
Posts: 2,026
I was originally using my wife's name as the billing address, as she is an authorized user on one of my cards. However, I later found I could just keep using my name and billing address (and of course my own cards). The shipping address/names is where I mixed it up. Last week they delivered $500 worth of Adams to my cat
#1009
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Programs: Amex Plat, Bonvoy Gold, lots of points, & timeshares I got for free. To talk travel deals, PM me!
Posts: 255
Twelve bucks...it's a LOOONG bridge. ...
yeah lots of times, 'expedited shipping' only means it will get there faster from the day they send it, and not that it will be sent faster.
in other words, they could decide to send it a month from now for example, but you will just get it faster from that moment. it stinks. (Personally, I dunno why you'd want to pay anything extra to get these coins--seeing as how we are kinda doing this for the cheep miles also, but hey, I dunno... maybe you like the coins also).....
in other words, they could decide to send it a month from now for example, but you will just get it faster from that moment. it stinks. (Personally, I dunno why you'd want to pay anything extra to get these coins--seeing as how we are kinda doing this for the cheep miles also, but hey, I dunno... maybe you like the coins also).....
I agree that it generally wouldn't be worth paying for expedited shipping just to get the credit card points. But, I need a few thousand dollars more charges by October 30th to qualify for a 15000 Starpoint bonus on my new Amex card. So, buying the coins won't just get me a Starpoint per dollar spent, it will also (hopefully) help get me a 15000 Starpoint bonus. I figured that expedited shipping would make increase my odds of having my credit card charged in time. Also, the last two times I ordered, they just left this box of money sitting there in front of my house, no signature required! I was hoping that with expedited shipping, there would be more security.
By the way, the expedited shipping cost less than what the item description said -- they subtracted the cost of regular shipping, because that's free for these coins. So, expedited shipping cost something like $12 or $12.95 (I forget which), not $17.95 or whatever they say in the description.
#1010
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Programs: Amex Plat, Bonvoy Gold, lots of points, & timeshares I got for free. To talk travel deals, PM me!
Posts: 255
An update: I checked my mail today, and there was a plain brown box with $1500 cash in it, sitting in front of my door! No signature was required. That's a bit scary, but no one stole the money, so it's OK.
The box was shipped UPS Ground. I checked my receipt, and I actually wasn't charged for expedited shipping. I could've sworn I selected expedited shipping -- maybe they don't actually offer it for this program, even though there is a place to select it?
Oddly enough, although I have the cash in hand (well, not literally in hand -- I couldn't fit that many coins in my hands), my credit card has still not been charged. I hope they charge it in time to qualify for the 15000 Starpoints promotion, rather than, say, the next day!
The box was shipped UPS Ground. I checked my receipt, and I actually wasn't charged for expedited shipping. I could've sworn I selected expedited shipping -- maybe they don't actually offer it for this program, even though there is a place to select it?
Oddly enough, although I have the cash in hand (well, not literally in hand -- I couldn't fit that many coins in my hands), my credit card has still not been charged. I hope they charge it in time to qualify for the 15000 Starpoints promotion, rather than, say, the next day!
#1011
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: AA PLT 2MM
Posts: 2,026
..But, I need a few thousand dollars more charges by October 30th to qualify for a 15000 Starpoint bonus on my new Amex card. So, buying the coins won't just get me a Starpoint per dollar spent, it will also (hopefully) help get me a 15000 Starpoint bonus. I figured that expedited shipping would make increase my odds of having my credit card charged in time...
I am going to assume you know about the AMEX Travelers Cheques (especially since it's the other active thread in this forum). Of course that assumes you live anywhere near a place to buy them -- but you can order them online, $1000 every two weeks for something like $5 shipping only these days anyway (read the other forum for the coupon code).
Here's a couple other things that might help you hit that threshold:
1) eBay/Microsoft Live cashback offer (currently 25%, max $200 off any 'buy it now' listing paid with paypal). Buy something liquid, I find with 1 OZ gold coins you can actually get under the spot price once you get that $200 cash back 60 days hence. Easily resell it for spot price (actually more), and make a profit. So, there's approximately $800 spending (times 6 if you haven't used it yet).
2) Gift cards (perhaps for airlines you often use)? Do some early Christmas shopping? Not quite as 'conserving' of money, but, all depends how much you'll be short by, if you're paying for expedited shipping, you must be close to your threshold. Maybe over pay a cell phone bill or something? Just thoughts.
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#1012
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ann Arbor, MI, USA
Programs: Amex Plat, Bonvoy Gold, lots of points, & timeshares I got for free. To talk travel deals, PM me!
Posts: 255
I am going to assume you know about the AMEX Travelers Cheques (especially since it's the other active thread in this forum). Of course that assumes you live anywhere near a place to buy them -- but you can order them online, $1000 every two weeks for something like $5 shipping only these days anyway (read the other forum for the coupon code).....
I might buy some gift cards to make the minimum, but there's a risk of losing them or forgetting about them, plus it's hard to use up the last few dollars on some GCs. I've used the Microsoft Live Search Cashback promotion, but only for things I was planning to buy anyway. I realized, about a month ago, that trying to make the $15k minimum spend was causing me to buy things I otherwise wouldn't, and I decided I really wanted to put a stop to that.
When I signed up for the AMEX SPG card, I didn't think I'd have any problem spending $15k in 6 months, but I've found that a lot of things I pay via credit card are Visa/MC only. Also, my husband's name isn't on the AMEX SPG card (I figure I'll get him his own card later, to qualify for the promo again) and he does a lot of our charging.
Thanks very much for the ideas! Flyertalk rocks!
#1013
Join Date: Aug 2007
Programs: UA General
Posts: 334
I asked my local credit union about depositing rolled coins, and they said that it would be easier if they are loose because they have to run these through the machine. Boy, I don't want to break loose the coins and bring a huge bag in there....
I also have a WaMu account but WaMu is not present in my area, but there is a Chase branch 1 mile away. Since they are now technically the same bank, can I go to the Chase branch and expect them to deposit my rolls of coins for free? Anyone has tried that??
I also have a WaMu account but WaMu is not present in my area, but there is a Chase branch 1 mile away. Since they are now technically the same bank, can I go to the Chase branch and expect them to deposit my rolls of coins for free? Anyone has tried that??
#1014
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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it ought to be free and I can think of NO cases in which I would deposit money otherwise.
banks should take these. The ones that do not (BofA with its limits I had imposed on me once) are being strong arm-like.
banks should take these. The ones that do not (BofA with its limits I had imposed on me once) are being strong arm-like.
#1015
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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just a nice example on how this thing can work fer ya:
Wife: signs up for that Citi AA MAstercard where you spend $750 and get 25,000 miles (they will post within one statement if you spend this money that quickly)
Self: does same thing.
Wife: uses "Apartments 1 & 2" and orders about $8,000 worth of coinage. Fulfills above card agreement for bonus.
Self: Does same thing, using no Apt and also sending some to me mother, where we can go pick up the coins and deposit later.
Wife: pays for both downhill ski passes for whole 2008/09 season - $2,000
Self: Pays property taxes online for 2 properties - $2,000+
Miles in both accounts with AA after all is said and done in a couple month's time:
35,000+ AA miles for each person
Round Trip to Maui can be booked for us both from BOS
total cost: some fees and taxes under $100.
Results: Priceless!
MM
Self: does same thing.
Wife: uses "Apartments 1 & 2" and orders about $8,000 worth of coinage. Fulfills above card agreement for bonus.
Self: Does same thing, using no Apt and also sending some to me mother, where we can go pick up the coins and deposit later.
Wife: pays for both downhill ski passes for whole 2008/09 season - $2,000
Self: Pays property taxes online for 2 properties - $2,000+
Miles in both accounts with AA after all is said and done in a couple month's time:
35,000+ AA miles for each person
Round Trip to Maui can be booked for us both from BOS
total cost: some fees and taxes under $100.
Results: Priceless!
MM
#1016
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: BOS and vicinity
Programs: Former UA 1P
Posts: 3,725
I can get 5,000 badly-needed EQMs if I spend about another $20K on my UA Visa before about Dec 7. I'm willing to tweak my address, ship them to my wife, heck, ship them to out-of-state relatives if necessary. But all of the charges would need to go on the one card.
I suspect you might get away with this since the mint probably cannot or does not (for privacy and potential data-loss reasons) keep a database of previously-used credit card numbers for comparison on future orders.
#1017
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
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If you don't have one already, you can open a Chase checking account, get a $125 bonus and fund your account with your United Visa to reach your bonus EQM. It does NOT show up as a cash advance. It shows as a purchase.
#1019
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
Programs: AA EXP / UA Lifetime Gold / Marriott Lifetime Plat / SPG Plat / Hyatt Diamond / HH Diamond / Avis CC
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#1020
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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I did see deals for $50 and $100 to open one. Am trying to do this but cannot confirm those.