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#1771
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 8,252
IMHO, no one really cares about the BBB anymore. They browbeat businesses into 'joining' for a fee, and the business' ratings can't rise above a certain level unless they 'belong.'
These guys have less credibility than Yelp! at this point.
These guys have less credibility than Yelp! at this point.

#1772
In memoriam
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,020
I am having a lot of difficulty believing that any of these posters who want to complain to the Better Biz Bureau are even close to serious.
The Mint is a government agency and the BBB has nothing to do with it--it is not a biz.
If you were really wacky, you could complain to your Congressional Representative--but that is counter-productive.
To repeat--don't even think about killing the goose laying the golden coins. @:-)
The Mint is a government agency and the BBB has nothing to do with it--it is not a biz.
If you were really wacky, you could complain to your Congressional Representative--but that is counter-productive.
To repeat--don't even think about killing the goose laying the golden coins. @:-)

#1773
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Varies :-)
Programs: AS; AA; UA; DL; VS; BA; Nat'l Emer. Exec.; AGR
Posts: 2,247
While the card is not charged until order is shipped - the authorization effectively REDUCES the available credit on the card. Some issuers, such as Citi, do not drop the UNBILLED authorization until 30 days passed. Worse, if the Mint did a line cancellation on you, and the billed amount is less than the authorized amount, i.e. they dont match, you would then have an ADDITIONAL reduction on your CC (the actual billing). This happened to several of my cards in past 4 shipments. At one point I had a total of $1500 taken away from the available credit, for the final shipments of $750 total.


#1774
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 282
two authorizations? wow that's a bit much. It's true though, the Mint can't do anything about it (at least I don't think so). Also the credit card can't do anything about it either. But maybe the Mint can not double preauthorize, so I guess they can do something.
My cc limit is $15k and I"m using the card I use daily. So if they double preauthorize then I'd be in trouble. Right now my limit is half of what it should be.
Too bad you couldn't record the call.
My cc limit is $15k and I"m using the card I use daily. So if they double preauthorize then I'd be in trouble. Right now my limit is half of what it should be.
Too bad you couldn't record the call.


#1775
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 28,463
The merchant CAN DO SOMETHING if it wants to.
I had Hilton Portland front desk mistakenly took authorization of full rack rate on a Priceline stay. I called the hotel and talked to the guy overseeing billings. He took care of it.
From what I understand, the merchant can send a cancellation on the authorization request. I saw that being done in front of me at a hotel in New Zealand - it was a 3-nighter stay on points, but the hotel was a rather upscale hotel with high rates. Upon check-out, our bill was 0, and I requested the hotel manager to cancel the authorization as we were on the road and had 3 weeks ahead of us before returning to US. She did that and handed me the proof - a receipt showing cancellation of authorization request.
Someone taught me to use a card that you dont normally use, for check-in if you expect a 0 or very small bill on check-out. Then you switch card upon check-out, so the authorization would not affect the credit limit of the card you actually use on the trip.
I had Hilton Portland front desk mistakenly took authorization of full rack rate on a Priceline stay. I called the hotel and talked to the guy overseeing billings. He took care of it.
From what I understand, the merchant can send a cancellation on the authorization request. I saw that being done in front of me at a hotel in New Zealand - it was a 3-nighter stay on points, but the hotel was a rather upscale hotel with high rates. Upon check-out, our bill was 0, and I requested the hotel manager to cancel the authorization as we were on the road and had 3 weeks ahead of us before returning to US. She did that and handed me the proof - a receipt showing cancellation of authorization request.
Someone taught me to use a card that you dont normally use, for check-in if you expect a 0 or very small bill on check-out. Then you switch card upon check-out, so the authorization would not affect the credit limit of the card you actually use on the trip.

#1776
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CA
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 2,879
If you call the Mint to check status, the recording now states 5-6 weeks for you to receive the order.

#1777
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 8,252
Yes - any merchant that does "Pre-authorization and capture" as two separate transactions can easily void the pre-authorization any time they want. It may take a few days for your bank to process that, but from the merchant's standpoint, it's immediate.
Now, the operator may not have had access to that level for financial transactions . . .
Now, the operator may not have had access to that level for financial transactions . . .

#1780
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Varies :-)
Programs: AS; AA; UA; DL; VS; BA; Nat'l Emer. Exec.; AGR
Posts: 2,247
two authorizations? wow that's a bit much. It's true though, the Mint can't do anything about it (at least I don't think so). Also the credit card can't do anything about it either. But maybe the Mint can not double preauthorize, so I guess they can do something.
My cc limit is $15k and I"m using the card I use daily. So if they double preauthorize then I'd be in trouble. Right now my limit is half of what it should be.
Too bad you couldn't record the call.
My cc limit is $15k and I"m using the card I use daily. So if they double preauthorize then I'd be in trouble. Right now my limit is half of what it should be.
Too bad you couldn't record the call.

God, what a bother... If I weren't getting 5 TYPs/$ right now, I'd quit this.


#1781
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: AA PLT 2MM
Posts: 2,018
You know... this is getting a little silly.
I have orders placed in early January that are now being fulfilled. It was a little aggravating it kept being fulfilled in small parts and each time my CC was charged it stepped on the toes of my AMEX TC run (because apparently AMEX considers these purchases cash equivalences and they eat up your cash advance limit for the week week even though these are not a cash advance, and that's what's needed to buy the TC's)
Most recently I just had another portion of an early January order fulfilled yesterday! And there's no rhyme or reason as to how these orders are being fulfilled. I had a $7500 order process and deliver in less than a week in early March, and a couple medium orders placed in Jan are still slowly being processed to delivery.
In the least the Mint should consider that now that we're getting beyond 3 months since the order was placed, there increases the possibility that the CC that was originally used might not be active, or in the least at some different balance in respect to credit limits that might make just arbitrarily releasing some order and successfully charging the card to not be a guaranteed thing.
I have orders placed in early January that are now being fulfilled. It was a little aggravating it kept being fulfilled in small parts and each time my CC was charged it stepped on the toes of my AMEX TC run (because apparently AMEX considers these purchases cash equivalences and they eat up your cash advance limit for the week week even though these are not a cash advance, and that's what's needed to buy the TC's)
Most recently I just had another portion of an early January order fulfilled yesterday! And there's no rhyme or reason as to how these orders are being fulfilled. I had a $7500 order process and deliver in less than a week in early March, and a couple medium orders placed in Jan are still slowly being processed to delivery.
In the least the Mint should consider that now that we're getting beyond 3 months since the order was placed, there increases the possibility that the CC that was originally used might not be active, or in the least at some different balance in respect to credit limits that might make just arbitrarily releasing some order and successfully charging the card to not be a guaranteed thing.

#1782
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: AA PLT 2MM
Posts: 2,018
You know... this is getting a little silly.
I have orders placed in early January that are now being fulfilled. It was a little aggravating it kept being fulfilled in small parts and each time my CC was charged it stepped on the toes of my AMEX TC run (because apparently AMEX considers these purchases cash equivalences and they eat up your cash advance limit for the week week even though these are not a cash advance, and that's what's needed to buy the TC's)
Most recently I just had another portion of an early January order fulfilled yesterday! And there's no rhyme or reason as to how these orders are being fulfilled. I had a $7500 order process and deliver in less than a week in early March, and a couple medium sized orders placed in Jan are still slowly being processed to delivery.
In the least the Mint should consider that now that we're getting beyond 3 months since the order was placed, there increases the possibility that the CC that was originally used might not be active, or in the least at some different balance in respect to credit limits that might make just arbitrarily releasing some order and successfully charging the card to not be a guaranteed thing.
I have orders placed in early January that are now being fulfilled. It was a little aggravating it kept being fulfilled in small parts and each time my CC was charged it stepped on the toes of my AMEX TC run (because apparently AMEX considers these purchases cash equivalences and they eat up your cash advance limit for the week week even though these are not a cash advance, and that's what's needed to buy the TC's)
Most recently I just had another portion of an early January order fulfilled yesterday! And there's no rhyme or reason as to how these orders are being fulfilled. I had a $7500 order process and deliver in less than a week in early March, and a couple medium sized orders placed in Jan are still slowly being processed to delivery.
In the least the Mint should consider that now that we're getting beyond 3 months since the order was placed, there increases the possibility that the CC that was originally used might not be active, or in the least at some different balance in respect to credit limits that might make just arbitrarily releasing some order and successfully charging the card to not be a guaranteed thing.

#1783
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SGF
Programs: AS, AA, UA, AGR (ex-75K, GLD, 1K, and S+), Choice Diamond, HZ PC, Costco Exec, NPS Passport
Posts: 22,929
Yes - any merchant that does "Pre-authorization and capture" as two separate transactions can easily void the pre-authorization any time they want. It may take a few days for your bank to process that, but from the merchant's standpoint, it's immediate.
Now, the operator may not have had access to that level for financial transactions . . .
Now, the operator may not have had access to that level for financial transactions . . .
MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and Diner's Club (if any still exist that are not rebranded to MasterCard) do not have that capability, and voiding an authorization will involve the merchant calling or faxing the cardholder's bank to manually request the authorization be voided.
I typed up a rather long explanation of how this all works on another forum. That post (plus the four posts following that which further explain the process, including reversals) can be viewed here.

#1784
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 80
Anyone know when next president will be issued. Apparently they are not going by the schedule they have listed.
I have maxed out all the presidents and native american coins for 2 cards. A couple of weeks ago, I was visiting my bank almost daily.
All the tellers now know me by name, one asked me if I wanted a job there since I was there everyday.
With no coins to deposit, I am going through bank "withdrawl".
I have maxed out all the presidents and native american coins for 2 cards. A couple of weeks ago, I was visiting my bank almost daily.
All the tellers now know me by name, one asked me if I wanted a job there since I was there everyday.
With no coins to deposit, I am going through bank "withdrawl".


#1785
Join Date: Nov 2007
Programs: AA, AS, BA, DL Plat, Chase UR, Diners, UA, F9, WN, SPG Gold, HH Diamond, Amex MR.
Posts: 436
Whenever I have a problem with government service, I just have the BBB take care of it for me. 
All: please remember to read the entire thread before posting your questions! So many of the questions have already been answered!

All: please remember to read the entire thread before posting your questions! So many of the questions have already been answered!
